How did the 1st beat Madara???
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see this videoo....madara kinda lame....he much stronger in manga than in this
battle....sucks...that why he loose to hashirama....n hashirama wood tech can
withstand 9 tail bijuu dama! rocks!
I mean...I personally feel like this question can't be answered considering I don't recall the 1st getting into a seriously serious fight in the entire series. I'm more than certain there's more to the character than what we have been given, and if he ever shows his face again we may see what other tricks the guy had up his sleeve.
Not to mention, considering he was a good guy...plot jutsu will always be on his side.
Not to mention, considering he was a good guy...plot jutsu will always be on his side.
who said he didnt used them?
whats with all the fanboys pointing out such things with no logic to comfort theirselfs their fav character actually didnt lose
he was fighting for his life ,he used every teq he got ..jeez
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I hope kishi would give us an entire episode about the battle between madara and harishama. I think that's the only way to know how the heck it happened and what sick techniques did harishama used to beat madara.
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first of all i pont you towards a non canon video of madara vs the 1st from a game second he also has water and earth relase what stops forest fries tahst right water O_O
Ok, I actually have no idea what you're trying to tell me and I'll explain why.Have you been seeing manga's? It was said that all sharingan users know how to use fire release ninjustus....
No where in my post did I say that Madara does not have fire release. I said that Madara does not only just have fire release. See the difference?
I don't think you (Tripwire) know enough about the manga, maybe you just started reading it or Madara is just your favorite character, but look at the facts given in the manga, minus the one false statement I made. Madara himself said Hashirama was stronger and Madara also stated that he fought Hashirama to his death. Hashirama wasn't killed by any shinobi. It's not that hard to understand. Even if you don't know there are wiki's that provide information directly from the manga and anime. Just look it up. No one is trying to be a pain in the ass, people are just pointing out to you that you say the answer in your very own question. The Madara we see now probably didn't have as much power as he possesses. He didn't fight for the 1st's DNA, he didn't acquire that DNA until after it was implanted in him by Orochimaru. He did however, as he stated that he gained the Rinnegan in that final fight but how much of it's power and techniques that he was able to use is unknown, which is a valid point for your fight. However, once again Madara made the statements about the 1st's being stronger than himself, that is all you need to know.
Nope I started reading a long time ago and Madara is not my fave character, oonoki and Kimimaro are. The thread isnt about who is stronger. I KNOW HASHIRMA IS STRONGER. The thread is just a questions asking how Madara lost eventhough he had an advantage. That was all, all the fanboys ( not accusing you) are now fighting in this thread about who is stronger when thats not even what the thread is about. After all the hype given to Hashirama everyone thinks he is a god now, when a week ago everyone thought Madara was unstopable and the most powerful....everyone is just jumping on the latest hype and not even thinking things through. We know more about hashi than Madara...for all we know Madara had a lot of techs no1 knows about also.
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But Madara didn't have any advantage at all. Being stronger than someone 9/10 most likely decides the battle. The same thing you are saying to be Madara's advantage is his biggest disadvantage. The fact that Hashirama did have complete mastery (not saying he was the greatest) of Water and Earth Techniques, which lead to him aquiring Wood Techniques automatically cancels out the use of Fire Techniques.
Also, we know more about Madara than we do about Hashirama.
Hashirama is not a God persay, but he is a very strong shinobi, whom of which is dubbed "The Strongest of His Time", period.
Madara had only disadvatages: Fire Techs, Impaired vision, and lust for power/lack of will. Will always proves to overcome power. That's the theme of the whole series as a matter of fact. Naruto's #1 advantage is Will Power, am I correct?
If there is a will, there is away.
Also, we know more about Madara than we do about Hashirama.
Hashirama is not a God persay, but he is a very strong shinobi, whom of which is dubbed "The Strongest of His Time", period.
Madara had only disadvatages: Fire Techs, Impaired vision, and lust for power/lack of will. Will always proves to overcome power. That's the theme of the whole series as a matter of fact. Naruto's #1 advantage is Will Power, am I correct?
If there is a will, there is away.
I get what you're saying but we don't know much about Madaras Ocular techs which at the end of the day are an Uchihas strongest techs.
BTW Narutos only advantage is that he is the main character thus plotno jutsu is always on his side.
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I think the answer lies in the battle of the sons of the So6p. [Older Son/Uchiha Ancestor] One had the Eyes, Chakra and Spiritual energy, believing POWER was the key to true peace like Madara, Orochimaru Tobi, Sasuke and Kabuto; [Younger son/Senju Ancestor] and one had the Body, Physical Energy and Will and believed that love was the key to true peace as did Naruto, Nagato after Naruto's fight, Jiraya, and quite possibly Hashirama.
The younger son was passed his father's heir. While the older son only gained envy.
Uchiha's always have the disadvantage, eventhough they have a natural lust for power.
The younger son was passed his father's heir. While the older son only gained envy.
Uchiha's always have the disadvantage, eventhough they have a natural lust for power.
