How can people actually say Raikage beat Sasuke?

[ranks33]

Exactly, everyone knows, Susano is probably the most powerfull technique ti'll now. But Sasuke didn't use it while fightning A, he was just begining to use it. And proof is here

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check Sasuke's version of Susano, it saids:



There and thats from the wiki, wich is very accurate but not completely xd
And of course Sasuke was making susano bigger by the time he ended the fight so please that's susano as a baby.....scary one but still a baby xd



The punch didn't kill or knock out Sasuke that's correct but it did shake it's head, becasue if it were a mere punch he would have seen A coming towards him before making the Liger Bomb.

Your taking the kick as a normal one kiddo:| It was a Guillotine Drop not exactly a kick, it was electrified, it was coming from above so A gets a little help from the laws of gravity.

Maybe not, but Sasuke survived the Liger Bomb thanks to the ribs wich gave him a cushion effect so the damage was reduced greatly. The Guillotine Drop was aimed either the neck or the chest (it's normaly the neck check some wrestling) and both locations a deadly so theres a lot of difference between the Liger Bomb and the Guillotine Drop

check the wiki link I posted he wasn't testing, he only was able to manifest the ribs, thats all.

And dude every one can read, you don't have to bold the letters or make them bigger :| every one of you who's on Sasuke's said are loosing your cool so chill out, have we the ones on A's side are placing capital letters or bolding giagantic parts?..........no, I'm not a psychiatrist but I'm pretty sure all of you are frustated and I'm not joking :|

KyubiYondaime, I'm still waiting to your reply on my previous posts :| or are you done talking to me? if so, who cares? I'm making more posts here than any other sub forums xd

@Love Cook-
I know this is a waste of time, but man do KY has made me laugh xd so I'm juts here to get a good laugh and raise my post faster O_O

so you saying the Guillotine Drop is more poweful than the liger bomb???
there is no way a drop can cause more damage than a slam
base on the position sasuke was after the liger bomb i whould say that attack was supose to crush half of his body

a crack rib is no proof the the Guillotine Drop whould have full effect on susano even if it was not complet

gara saved A's leg (lol) and if that kick did go through A whould lose his leg and als kill him self cause his done

 

[mangetsu hoozuki]

except you have problems with your eyes....then you'll know Raikage beat sasuke

 

[ranks33]

except you have problems with your eyes....then you'll know Raikage beat sasuke

right now raikage is on his ass with one arm seeking help and sasuke is still on his feet with all his body parts still taking on gara and ther rest

you dont know what is a win

 

[Saphlan]

AND EXCITE AND ME ARE STILL WAITING FOR for someone answer to how can a leg drop that could'nt even get threw garra's sand able to kill sasuke through Susanoo aura and Enton, 2 MS jutsus and not just wound but even KILL Sasuke. Doesn't make sense does it?[/QUOTE

Okay it seems like someone here hasn't had their 4th grade education. Someone being you.
Look when Gaara stopped the leg drop. His leg wasn't moving yet. It's like you raising your hand to karate chop a piece of wood. If your hand is all the way in the air high above your head, and you are about to bring it down. But right as you are about to bring it down someone puts their hand in front of yours. So it cancels that Karate chop immediately. It's something called potential energy and kinetic energy. When the leg drop was stopped it had a TON of potential energy, if it wasn't stopped then it would started moving down and have that potential energy turned into kinetic energy. AKA annihilating Sasuke. And the Raikage stopped in surprise. AND sand cancels out electricity.

So for a review:
1. The leg drop was in it's potential energy stage, not yet smashed down. So it was easy to stop.
2. The Raikage stopped in surprise when he saw the sand.
3. Sand cancels out electricity.
4. Gaaras sand is really strong.
5. That wasn't a thin layer of sand, it was a block of sand that still smashed apart even though the drop was still potential energy, Raikage surprised, and the sand canceling out the electricity of the drop.

So it seems like his Guillotine Drop was underestimated.

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

now it seems that no one os going to bulge in the decisions that they've taken. so i guess we all should just leave it at that. anyway. for my opinion i think that sasuke would have won against A if the battle had continued. although i don't like sasuke, he had a grat counter to A's fighting style as he practiced mostly taijutsu. the susanoo would have lessen the impacts of the blows hence the damage it will cause whiles the amaterasu will deal damage to A. and the way A was fighting, it seems that he was thinking at all. why would sacrifice and arm if your attack isn't going to kill your opponent. it was a stupid move on his part. but that's just my opinion though.

This.

Susanoo was protecting Sasuke while Amaterasu/Enton was causing damage to A quicker.

Unless anybody thinks losing an arm is less damage than the Karate chop Sasuke suffered.

Raiger bomb didn't even make Susanoo budge and caused absolutely no damage. In the anime even, after Raiger bomb failed, A punched Susanoo again and nothing happened.

The leg drop would be leg on a stick to Enton and then damage Susanoo aura abit, Sasuke would receive little to no damage.

Then with just 1 leg, he'd be unable to dodge Big Susanoo.

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

Your taking the hits as if they were all on the same location, the kick was either gonna be in the chest or the neck, if the neck, well you know what happens, in the chest you saw what did Bee did to Sasuke with the Lariat, but of curse since this isn't the Lariat, the damage would have been reduce but still deadly.

Sasuke didn't have Susanoo againts Bee. Lariat>Kick anyway.

And yeah I take that, maybe Sasuke and A wouldn't have died but they could have been knock out or just very injured. Yes loosing two limbs is fatal, but he made that choice he alredy knew what was gonna happen if he continued the attack. But Sasuke too was in a tight situation. And A already had C for his healing or just stop the bloodloss, while Sasuke had no one, Juugo was injured, Suigetsu has a sword in him and Karin was hiding and afraid of Sasuke. So if they both were hit Sasuke has less chances of living

So you're saying A wins by being healed while Sasuke isn't?

If so, thats not being stroner than Sasuke AT ALL.

And regardless I really doubt it. A took a chance to heal himself because Gaara intervened and started fighting Sasuke, if not, he wouldn't have had that chance.

And every one of those characters choose to use those techniques, knowing what would had happen. That doesn't prove anything, A's attacks had no drawbacks, in fact he chose to take damage to defeat Sasuke, while Sasuke's MS was burning his body from the inside.

I already admitted Sasuke lost to Bee. Majorly cause he didn't have Susanoo if not he could have defended with that and countered attack with Amaterasu, which unlike A, Bee didn't know about. The Sasuke that fouht A would have finished Bee, as he was bloodlusted and willing to use his MS alot more thana agints Bee since he was sent to capture, not kill.

Yeah I know that, but he was getting beat up, theres really no chance of bring in his top card when he's getting beat up. And again he was starting to use Susano and you're stil saying that Susano it's instant when no one sees Susano at the time A was about ot kick him, so it's clearly not instant, even for Itachi's Susano took tme to be complete.

Nope, it was formed and busted by Kirin and then reformed. No one saw Susanoo cause he hadn't activated. He was attacked by Gaara, Darui, Kankuro, Temari and managed to do it. If he was able to do it as fast as Raikage's Raiger bomb, Mizukage's lava, Garaa, Darui, Temari and Kankuro's attack, I dont see why he can't activate it fast enough now.

 

[Anub]

Raikage's leg would not have made that much damage to sasuke by that point. Sasuke was ready to activate full susano'o and it's impossible for raikage to penetrate. But up until that point, raikage had the fight. It's just that Sasuke wasn't fighting at his fullest, because maybe he tried to keep as much chakra as possible for when fighting Danzo

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

^ Good analysis. I also thought of that.

 

[castiel19]

sasuke sucks .raikage would have killed him.he did'nt use any ninjutsu on him and he almost collapsed

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

Raikage sucks. One dimensional brute one trick pony.

 

[lord niijima]

This.

Susanoo was protecting Sasuke while Amaterasu/Enton was causing damage to A quicker.

Unless anybody thinks losing an arm is less damage than the Karate chop Sasuke suffered.

Raiger bomb didn't even make Susanoo budge and caused absolutely no damage. In the anime even, after Raiger bomb failed, A punched Susanoo again and nothing happened.

The leg drop would be leg on a stick to Enton and then damage Susanoo aura abit, Sasuke would receive little to no damage.

Then with just 1 leg, he'd be unable to dodge Big Susanoo.

and what do you mean with your post. i don't understand.

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

Oh and Sasuke fought Raikage in anger too.

 

[Ryuji]

so you saying the Guillotine Drop is more poweful than the liger bomb???
there is no way a drop can cause more damage than a slam
base on the position sasuke was after the liger bomb i whould say that attack was supose to crush half of his body

a crack rib is no proof the the Guillotine Drop whould have full effect on susano even if it was not complet

gara saved A's leg (lol) and if that kick did go through A whould lose his leg and als kill him self cause his done

I'm not saying that the Guillotine Drop was more powerfull than the Liger Bomb, Sasuke could have been knock out if it wasn't for the ribs, but considering the location of Sasuke and A at the time the Guillotine Drop was about to land the Drop has more power than the Liger Bomb. I mean he's on the floor the impact could pass through Sasuke and into the ground.

The Guillotine Drop wouldn't have been in contact with the ribs, check the pics all of us had post, the only thing defending Sasuke from the Drop was Enton, wich is a flame not a solid xd I still laugh every time I remember that :rofl:

Oh so loosing a leg is dying? wow then my neighbor it's inmortal,

AND EXCITE AND ME ARE STILL WAITING FOR for someone answer to how can a leg drop that could'nt even get threw garra's sand able to kill sasuke through Susanoo aura and Enton, 2 MS jutsus and not just wound but even KILL Sasuke. Doesn't make sense does it?[/QUOTE

Okay it seems like someone here hasn't had their 4th grade education. Someone being you.
Look when Gaara stopped the leg drop. His leg wasn't moving yet. It's like you raising your hand to karate chop a piece of wood. If your hand is all the way in the air high above your head, and you are about to bring it down. But right as you are about to bring it down someone puts their hand in front of yours. So it cancels that Karate chop immediately. It's something called potential energy and kinetic energy. When the leg drop was stopped it had a TON of potential energy, if it wasn't stopped then it would started moving down and have that potential energy turned into kinetic energy. AKA annihilating Sasuke. And the Raikage stopped in surprise. AND sand cancels out electricity.

So for a review:
1. The leg drop was in it's potential energy stage, not yet smashed down. So it was easy to stop.
2. The Raikage stopped in surprise when he saw the sand.
3. Sand cancels out electricity.
4. Gaaras sand is really strong.
5. That wasn't a thin layer of sand, it was a block of sand that still smashed apart even though the drop was still potential energy, Raikage surprised, and the sand canceling out the electricity of the drop.

So it seems like his Guillotine Drop was underestimated.

To every one still wanting a proof of why the sand repeled the Drop check this before talking please BTW nice going buddy hopeffully this guys will read it.

Sasuke didn't have Susanoo againts Bee. Lariat>Kick anyway.


So you're saying A wins by being healed while Sasuke isn't?

If so, thats not being stroner than Sasuke AT ALL.

And regardless I really doubt it. A took a chance to heal himself because Gaara intervened and started fighting Sasuke, if not, he wouldn't have had that chance.



I already admitted Sasuke lost to Bee. Majorly cause he didn't have Susanoo if not he could have defended with that and countered attack with Amaterasu, which unlike A, Bee didn't know about. The Sasuke that fouht A would have finished Bee, as he was bloodlusted and willing to use his MS alot more thana agints Bee since he was sent to capture, not kill.



Nope, it was formed and busted by Kirin and then reformed. No one saw Susanoo cause he hadn't activated. He was attacked by Gaara, Darui, Kankuro, Temari and managed to do it. If he was able to do it as fast as Raikage's Raiger bomb, Mizukage's lava, Garaa, Darui, Temari and Kankuro's attack, I dont see why he can't activate it fast enough now.

I never said he did, but at that time Bee was stronger than Sasuke, then after the summit it's clearly that Sasuke is way stronger than Bee.

No I'm saying that if the Drop landed and Sasuke survived he still has less chances of survival cause there's nobody there to help him and A too is in a tight situation loosing 2 limbs is great damage it's not like I'm saying his Leg will magicly survived Enton he would have chop his leg too.

I already told you Sasuke is stronger than A but please listen to me he was beggining to use Susano, if he had Susano the whole fight I'm sure he'll beat the hell out of every one but his curretn situation doens't favor him, thats what I'm saying.

He didn't heal himself he would just stop the bleeding.

yeah he was sent to captured, but his attemp of captured lead him to a lot of stress and Bee was fine after his ''death''.

You don't get my point see this

When Sasuke is first seen using Susanoo, he is only able to manifest its skeleton. Though useful as a defence, the Fourth Raikage proves to be able to snap the ribs or even bypass them and attack Sasuke directly; the Fifth Mizukage also managed to melt the bones with her Boil Release: Skilled Mist Technique. As his battle with the Raikage and his allies progresses, Sasuke begins further developing Susanoo as a large skeleton with some musculature on it, which envelops him more completely and includes giving it horns on its head and three hands that have six fingers on them.

Thats from wiki

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check Sasuke's verison to see if I'm lying.

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Raikage's leg would not have made that much damage to sasuke by that point. Sasuke was ready to activate full susano'o and it's impossible for raikage to penetrate. But up until that point, raikage had the fight. It's just that Sasuke wasn't fighting at his fullest, because maybe he tried to keep as much chakra as possible for when fighting Danzo

not he wasn't, he unlocked more of susanoo with "darkness" and he ran out of chakra trying to use susanoo againest mei he only got away from her with zetsu's help.

 

[lord niijima]

sasuke is kishi's favorite character. what else would yall expect?

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

I'm not saying that the Guillotine Drop was more powerfull than the Liger Bomb, Sasuke could have been knock out if it wasn't for the ribs, but considering the location of Sasuke and A at the time the Guillotine Drop was about to land the Drop has more power than the Liger Bomb. I mean he's on the floor the impact could pass through Sasuke and into the ground.

He substitue of the ribs are Enton, while Susanoo aura is still there, even if the ribs aren't.

Oh so loosing a leg is dying? wow then my neighbor it's inmortal,

I'm sure your neighbor had medical assistance quickly to not die of bloodloss, just like A would have needed, but A also would have lost an arm. I doubt C would be able to stop both of them since he seemed to take a good deal of time just healing the arm, while there are more artiries in the leg, and also Sasuke spamming 4 more MS jutsus at them which he still had left.

I never said he did, but at that time Bee was stronger than Sasuke, then after the summit it's clearly that Sasuke is way stronger than Bee.[/quote[
Glad we see eye to eye on something atleast

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No I'm saying that if the Drop landed and Sasuke survived he still has less chances of survival cause there's nobody there to help him and A too is in a tight situation loosing 2 limbs is great damage it's not like I'm saying his Leg will magicly survived Enton he would have chop his leg too.

Thats a moot point. Sasuke could have had Karin heal him too, if we're taking of third parties now then it doesn't really have anything to do on whose stronger than who. And like I said, C only had enough time to heal A because Sasuke was busy fighting Gaara, if not, Sasuke would have kept attacking them, and not allow A to be healed.

If I recall, your first argument was that Sasuke would die from the leg drop, it seems you now changed to a completely different scenario now.

I already told you Sasuke is stronger than A but please listen to me he was beggining to use Susano, if he had Susano the whole fight I'm sure he'll beat the hell out of every one but his curretn situation doens't favor him, thats what I'm saying.

1. Sasuke showcased Susanoo as if he could handle it super well with great cockyness. Revealing it when he ACTUALLY NEEDED IT, attacked from all sides. Four attacks>A's leg drop. "My defense is greater than yours. Only those who can use Mangekyou in both eyes can awaken Susanoo"

2. Juugo stated this is what he wanted to try out all along, againts Zetsu.

3. Stage 2 Susanoo is shown in the Genjutsu Sasuke uses on C, crushing him.

So Sasuke did have complete control of Stage 2 Susanoo at this point, he just didn't feel the need to use it, it's that simple.

He didn't heal himself he would just stop the bleeding.

Stop bleeding=healing. The arm needed healing. And it was healed. You need to heal arteries/veins to stop bleeding. If he would have died of bloodloss without that, and was then healed, than he was healed.

 

[NewKageism]

But come on bro take the hint Sasuke dead. He went past his two shields already and hit him in neck.

 

[ranks33]

if the attack went through A whould have to cut his leg off plus that drop whoud not kill sasuke.so now a is usless on the battle field waitin for his death

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

(Okay it seems like someone here hasn't had their 4th grade education. Someone being you.
Look when Gaara stopped the leg drop. His leg wasn't moving yet. It's like you raising your hand to karate chop a piece of wood. If your hand is all the way in the air high above your head, and you are about to bring it down. But right as you are about to bring it down someone puts their hand in front of yours. So it cancels that Karate chop immediately. It's something called potential energy and kinetic energy. When the leg drop was stopped it had a TON of potential energy, if it wasn't stopped then it would started moving down and have that potential energy turned into kinetic energy. AKA annihilating Sasuke. And the Raikage stopped in surprise. AND sand cancels out electricity.

So for a review:
1. The leg drop was in it's potential energy stage, not yet smashed down. So it was easy to stop.
2. The Raikage stopped in surprise when he saw the sand.
3. Sand cancels out electricity.
4. Gaaras sand is really strong.
5. That wasn't a thin layer of sand, it was a block of sand that still smashed apart even though the drop was still potential energy, Raikage surprised, and the sand canceling out the electricity of the drop.

So it seems like his Guillotine Drop was underestimated.

Wow now your just in your own world with this one lmao)


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1. I find 3 to 6 inches a big difference in a leg drop.
2. Stop in surpirse ok keep thinking that.
3. Sand is a subset of earth and we all know lightning beats earth.
4. Sand is strong in a large lump some and that was'nt that much sand, i'd rather get hit with that amount of sand the to get hit with the raikage lightning or sasuke enton any day.
5. I bet if you ask anybody in they'll tell you they'll rather be leg drop then power drive any day.



P.S. why is it that everybody who is going at it in this thread either have sign up around the same time or just made there first post after like 2 years lol

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

Raiger bomb is more deadly than Leg drop as it should have busted his spine in half yet it didn't do anything.

The Karate chop did get past the two defenses, but only did so much damage, and that was Amaterasu, not Enton. Raikage would need atleast 3-4 of those to actually kill Sasuke, not two as people mention.

Infact, even the Karate chop to the neck should be more powerful than a Leg drop to the chest as the Neck is far more sensitive to be broken. I had a friend who died in a car accident 6 months ago because he broke his neck.