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[JIRAIYA perv]

Danzo was a scumbag...

true but he did do good (konoha was safe) and from other people's point of view he wasn't all that bad, he took tough decisions that people coward from. may i ask you, why exactly do you think he was scum ??

 

[The God of Wind]

^This^ *applause*

*Bows*

oh god ...... its hard to get through to that thick skull of yours lol dude am talking about his intention witch he stated in the ANIME before doing that final attack (dead already or not doesn't matter here) am talking about his intention witch is an indication of his loyalty ...... you know whats really funny ?? its the fact that you actually believe half of the suff you said. and he did have his heroic tribute witch means that he wasn't all bad (kishi's view) witch means that you got this the wrong way. give it a rest. its painful to read this after seeing that the thread name is IT ALL MAKES SENSE, what sense ?? yours ?? don't make me laugh ...

Kishi portrayed him as a coward! He couldn't step forward to become the decoy and felt relieved that Hiruzen did. He talked of sacrifice all his life, and yet the only one's sacrificed were members of Root and the ones he had killed. He "sacrificed" himself, only in the face of imminent death, when he couldn't possibly live on any longer. He was jealous of Hiruzen all his life, tried to have him killed. He was a jealous bitch, he was an evil dictator!

He wanted to abolish the will of fire, when that was the very thing that protected the leaf.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

*Bows*


Kishi portrayed him as a coward! He couldn't step forward to become the decoy and felt relieved that Hiruzen did. He talked of sacrifice all his life, and yet the only one's sacrificed were members of Root and the ones he had killed. He "sacrificed" himself, only in the face of imminent death, when he couldn't possibly live on any longer. He was jealous of Hiruzen all his life, tried to have him killed. He was a jealous bitch, he was an evil dictator!

hmmm ..... let me ask you this, if he was ALL bad then why did he have a heroic tribute ?? listen am not here to argue about this, i already told you to go and watch his death to understand danzo's true intentions, once you that you will stop this silly talk (thread) coz you MIGHT understand what am saying. this is a fictional character (so your he saw that he did that final attack because he was gona die anyway is silly) he was concerned that obito would live and be a danger to the shinobi world. he indeed was scum (for the way he got his power) but he wasn't all bad. again my point was about danzo's loyalty witch wouldn't allow him to help obito (destroy konoha).

 

[TheWillofFire]

Do you think he would let Nagato, just roam free with his Rinnegan, he was the key to Obito's plans! Nagato wouldn't join him because of Yahiko, Obito had to do something about that! Do you think he would leave something like that to chance?

When Obito told Nagato, "you will realize soon enough", Obito was shown standing over Konoha in the next panel about to start his plan with the Kyuubi.

Right and for this reason is why i think Obito was behind the hanzou - akatsuki incident
We blame danzo and hanzo
But obito could of led hanzo into thinking akatsuki is an enemy since obito himself is an enemy, we still dont why hanzo wished for akatsukis erase.
But youbare blamming that incident of yahiko dying on danzo, which although danzo played a part, he is not completely to blame

 

[Omnipotent]

This thread still isn't making any sense if Yahiko died before the Nine-Tails' Attack on Konoha, which he did.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

This thread still isn't making any sense if Yahiko died before the Nine-Tails' Attack on Konoha, which he did.

my friend this thread isn't making any sense for A LOT of reasons ....

 

[The God of Wind]

hmmm ..... let me ask you this, if he was ALL bad then why did he have a heroic tribute ?? listen am not here to argue about this, i already told you to go and watch his death to understand danzo's true intentions, once you that you will stop this silly talk (thread) coz you MIGHT understand what am saying.

What heroic tribute? His cowardice and jealousy was shown in the flashback with Nidaime. What did Nidaime say to him before going to his death? "Danzo, you're always looking at Saru, the truth is, you couldn't step forward when you had the chance. You must first look at your own self, or you will put your comrades lives in danger". <<<!!!!! That is exactly what Danzo ended up doing.

He couldn't do anything for the village with his death, he died a loser and a coward!

 

[The God of Wind]

This thread still isn't making any sense if Yahiko died before the Nine-Tails' Attack on Konoha, which he did.

And how do you know that?

 

[Omnipotent]

And how do you know that?

Do you realize how many times you have double-posted?

Prove that he didn't.

 

[TheWillofFire]

Danzo still wouldnt agree with obito

Danzo: Oh hey obito how about you destroy konoha (except me) so I can become hokage
And in exchange ill help you corner akatsuki for your rinnegan motives to destoy the world (including me).

NO lol

Rather it was an exchange with hanzo and danzo

Hanzo - hey danzo i need some help some strong people here in amegakure dont know how to approach
Danzo - ok ill help you maintain your power, those akatsuki guys can pose a threat later too for me, lets get rid of them

DING DING sounds right to me

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

What heroic tribute? His cowardice and jealousy was shown in the flashback with Nidaime. What did Nidaime say to him before going to his death? "Danzo, you're always looking at Saru, the truth is, you couldn't step forward when you had the chance. You must first look at your own self, or you will put your comrades lives in danger". <<<!!!!! That is exactly what Danzo ended up doing.

He couldn't do anything for the village with his death, he died a loser and a coward!

looooool ok this is my last post here. i am a huge jiraiya fan (opposite of danzo) but i take the time and try to understand each character and i see a lot of sense in some of what danzo did, you just keep saying the same thing over and over again (he is a cowared he is blah blah blah) but you don't get anything about him. and did you listen to the music ?? and him and hiruzen running together ?? you see danzo and hiruzen were different, hiruzen is like the rest of the heroes (no blood means no blood), while danzo didn't mind getting his hands dirty to keep the peace (witch is the only way sometimes, face it) he was the more realistic character thats why i like him. he never had the power or hiruzen's gift as a shinobi thats why he waned to get power to BE ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE to become hokage, the means to reach his goal were sick but he did have his good side (loyalty to konoha). anyways i don't expect you to understand any of this after looking at your ..... posts lol

 

[The God of Wind]

Do you realize how many times you have double-posted?

Prove that he didn't.

LOL You're telling me the rules now? I can see how you're hatred fuels you.

Prove to me that he did die before the massacre and this theory is history.

looooool ok this is my last post here. i am a huge jiraiya fan (opposite of danzo) but i take the time and try to understand each character and i see a lot of sense in some of what danzo did, you just keep saying the same thing over and over again (he is a cowared he is blah blah blah) but you don't get anything about him. and did you listen to the music ?? and him and hiruzen running together ?? you see danzo and hiruzen were different, hiruzen is like the rest of the heroes (no blood means no blood), while danzo didn't mind getting his hands dirty to keep the peace (witch is the only way sometimes, face it) he was the more realistic character thats why i like him. he never had the power or hiruzen's gift as a shinobi thats why he waned to get power to BE ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE to become hokage, the means to reach his goal were sick but he did have his good side (loyalty to konoha). anyways i don't expect you to understand any of this after looking at your ..... posts lol

Konoha is not buildings and fences, it's the people itself. When those people were dying by Pain's hand, he was sitting in his basement, saying let them die, their deaths will be necessary for me. There is a huge difference between getting your hands dirty and doing everything for yourself! His loyalty was to himself and his ambition to become the self righteous savior of the world. He was deluded in thinking he was a shinobi, preaching self sacrifice and making others make that sacrifice doesn't make you a hero, it makes you a bitch.

You don't think I get the concept of doing the dirty work? I do, and that's not what Danzo did. His every move was for his own benefit. You are the one who can't see him for the spineless selfish prick he really was.

 

[TheWillofFire]

The main thing to understand about Danzo and Obito is that both posed a great threat to the shinobi world

However Danzo was not as strong to take on Obito which comes to show you, greater evil destroys evil

No way in hell would danzo agree with greater evil than himself for that is what he is trying to get rid of with his evilness
Main point: Danzo held human values to know what it takes to protect a village even though his path was different

 

[NewNarrutoFans]

as bad as danzo was, he wouldn't do anything that would put the leaf in danger (remember how he waned to take out sasuke and tobi knowing they are enemies of the leaf). if that was what obito wanted when he attacked the leaf then how would he convince danzo to do so ?? whats in it for danzo ?? why would he help uchiha madara (obito at that time) the man who first of all is an UCHIHA (this is danzo the uchiha killer) and second he (tobi, obito, madara) wants to take over/destroy the leaf ??

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[The God of Wind]

The main thing to understand about Danzo and Obito is that both posed a great threat to the shinobi world

However Danzo was not as strong to take on Obito which comes to show you, greater evil destroys evil

No way in hell would danzo agree with greater evil than himself for that is what he is trying to get rid of with his evilness
Main point: Danzo held human values to know what it takes to protect a village even though his path was different

Post #52 sums up Danzo.

Danzo still wouldnt agree with obito

Danzo: Oh hey obito how about you destroy konoha (except me) so I can become hokage
And in exchange ill help you corner akatsuki for your rinnegan motives to destoy the world.

NO lol

Rather it was an exchange with hanzo and danzo

Hanzo - hey danzo i need some help some strong people here in amegakure dont know how to approach
Danzo - ok ill help you maintain your power, those akatsuki guys can pose a threat later too for me, lets get rid of them

DING DING sounds right to me

And Obito was like...."Oh my god, how lucky I am, everything works out for me on it's own, thank you god!" :rofl: Right? That's how you picture it right?

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

looking at how you hate this fictional character sooooooo much and skipped the point i made about his intention before dying (witch sums him all up) but you some how think its something else (in a weird realistic way) i had to post again xd, dude chill and stick to your thread (witch has many flaws). enough is enough he did want to bring obito down saying that he is a danger to the shinobi world, that means that he would have never agreed on anything that obito would have suggested like another member said he would be the hokage of nothing if he agreed on obito's plan (destruction of konoha or all of the shinobi world) he doesn't share that point of view and this thread is getting annoying

 

[The God of Wind]

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:rofl: yeah exactly, nice to finally get some help

looking at how you hate this fictional character sooooooo much and skipped the point i made about his intention before dying (witch sums him all up) but you some how think its something else (in a weird realistic way) i had to post again xd, dude chill and stick to your thread (witch has many flaws). enough is enough he did want to bring obito down saying that he is a danger to the shinobi world, that means that he would have never agreed on anything that obito would have suggested like another member said he would be the hokage of nothing if he agreed on obito's plan (destruction of konoha or all of the shinobi world) he doesn't share that point of view and this thread is getting annoying

It's annoying to you because it exposes Danzo's true colors, which shits on your beliefs about him.

Danzo didn't decide to take down Madara and Sasuke, they are the ones who decided to take Danzo down!! He was cornered, his lap dogs killed, and he was defending his right to live and cause more pain for his profit!!

 

[Omnipotent]

LOL You're telling me the rules now? I can see how you're hatred fuels you.

Prove to me that he did die before the massacre and this theory is history.

What is there to hate?

So you failed to back up your claim yet you expect me to counter what you say with evidence?

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[JIRAIYA perv]

:rofl yeah exactly, nice to finally get some help

that doesn't prove anything ...... sheeeeesh that only says that they met and he helped itachi kill the uchiha, but that was waaaay after the kyuubi attack and even waaaaaay after nagato joined the obito. this proves nothing other than obito knew danzo from the uchiha massacre .....

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[Wood Release]

Very good theory and it works almost perfectly. To the person(s) that say Danzo wouldn't do that, I have to disagree. Have you heard A theory that the Invasion of Konoha (Oro invasion) was so Hiruzen could be killed and Danzo put in power? It makes perfect sense if you ask me and if he would risk an Invasion to get power then Kyuubi destruction makes sense as well. He might have also wanted destruction to help the village. Insert that hurricane then rainbow quote here.