I don't know if I should kiss you or give you a high five. We have not seen a "PRIME" Hiruzen. And why even say Prime jiriaya wtf...Jiriaya takes this because the hype of Hiruzen is just ridiculous...i think jiraiya would win, hiruzen is overrated
Dumb logic..Feats>Hype. Jiraiya wins.
I agree with this, even though Jiraiya is one of my favorites he'd lose to him.Dumb logic..
So You look at The elders saying this
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And also chiyo saying Sandaime was the strongest kazekage....
And you'd still say Gaara> sandaime?....
Or
if feats > Hype
Ten ten > izuna?
lee> Tobriama?
.... -_-
Pretty much this^^T.T......Prime hiruzen is one of Kishi's most hyped characters......Strongest hokage, Strongest Kage, God of shinobi , Knew how to use all existing Konoha jutsu at The point of time when he was named Professor ......Knows and have counter for most if not all existing Konoha jutsu.........Genius......
.....Yea.....My pick is based on what was said in manga,
Give evidence other then what was "said" in the manga. In vs threads it's about what we know for certian about the two parties, not speculation.I agree I love Jaraiya but his teacher takes it all day
Hiruzen hasn't shown his full capabilities though.....Thus this vs thread shouldn't even be made....But what he does have is hype by everyone.....Everyone seems to think that guy used to be the shitt.... So are they all speculating? The anbu ninja, Iruka, Kabuto ,Orochimaru, His pet summon emna .... Just because a character hasn't shown what he can do doesn't mean he isn't strong...Give evidence other then what was "said" in the manga. In vs threads it's about what we know for certian about the two parties, not speculation.