hiruzen sarutobi vs minato namikize

Owarij

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The funny thing is that both of you are right xd.
Example amaterasu is a ninjutsu, but its also a kekeganki tech (doujutsu in this case)
Lol that's what i told him.... Kekke genkai allow for jutsu to be used....

Kimmiamaro's bone condition isn't the jtusu its the genetic traait.. from that trait he can use jutsu, like bone bullet... those are the jutsu..

Sharingan isn't the jutsu.... Its the genetic trait....It then allowsyou to cast jutsu amaterasu tsukyomi etc....


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What a dumb thread, hiruzen's final technique was shiki fuujin which was taught to him by minato and why would he sacrifice his life and living in tha pure world after he died and choose to spend an eternity inside tha death god if he had any other better techniques? if wasn't for that techique he would have been beaten like a BITCH!!! If he was taught his most powerful technique by minato(a technique even oro didn't know of) WTF could he possibly do to minato who was tha fastest ninja a fact that A admited to
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no lol, you're the one making yourself looklike a imbeccile....Doujutsu are bloodline limits.. genetic traits....
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is a pineapple a apple? no stfu, you have no idea what you are talking about, must i get a manga definition of jutsu for you?


There are also kekkei genkai abilities which aren't techniques, but inherited abilities passed down through certain clans (however, they can be used as base for certain techniques



If you can't tell the difference between a kekke genkai and a jutsu, stop talking to me plz....
Jutsu (術; Literally meaning "skills/techniques") are the mystical arts a ninja will utilise in battle. To use a technique, the ninja will need to use their chakra. To perform a technique, the ninja will bring out and release the two energies of chakra.
Dōjutsu (瞳術; Literally meaning "Eye Techniques") are genetic ninja abilities that utilise the eyes, granting the wielder ocular abilities.

And you even admit, the eyes are there to allow for further jutsu, in which Sarutobi can never perform.
 
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I think Minato would win, Sarutobi was said to be the strongest Kage comparing the kages that came before him, and that would've been the First and Second Hokage, Minato came after Hiruzen, just sayin' though :shrug:
 

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Who has exaggerated abilities in the manga? i want a list.... Who said that someone was stronger, then it turned out that the person wasn't ...
The only person who lied, was Itachi saying him + kisame = Jiraya... and later on into the show it explained his reasoning for lieing..... so once again , I ask you... show who and prove that people exaggerate abilities

All you are is some sort of Hiruzen hater.... Did iruka have any reasoning to lie about the third's strength? Did kabuto and orochimaru when talking about the third have any reason to exaggerate?.... don't kid yourself....


Your post has nullified nothing... all you did was list what all the kages could do... urm thanks for that

But according to kabuto and oro
Hiruzen > All of themm





Wtf do you mean what does chiyo know about gaara? she knows who he is...that he's the son of the 4th... she knows oro killed the 4th.... All the sand villages would ofc know about their kazekage... what kind of ridiculous point is that?....

Would the leaf ninja not know that the 1st has moukouton? yes they did know , infact its in leaf text books, and other villagers know...


Did kumugakare ninjas not know about the thirds and the fourths abilities? ...... yes they did

Did the leaf ninja know about minato's ftg? yes they did know..... tsunade,kakashi etc....

What makes you think chiyo wouldnt know what her own kazekage could do?....



hiruzen could beat onoki with ease and btw hiruzen is great shinobi just isnt good enough for the 4th hokage
 
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