hiruzen sarutobi vs minato namikize

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I happen to think Minato will OBLIDERATEAFIEANIALATEEDANALRAPE sarutobi because Minato is the Chuck Norris of the naruto world and consider urself a homotrannie if u dissagree (except if u say Madara is chuck norris cause hes a ******* GOD like NIKKI MINAJ A** GOD ) .....Yess!
i dont understand either but i go with him ,ans is minato coz minato is the one who fought par with madara and plus minatos yellow flash is unbeatable by sarutobi and talk bout jutsus minato is the very best for any type of shinobi and their jutsus....plus sarutobi was glad while he sealed 4th during the epic battle betwn orochimaru's resurrection
 

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Hiruzen sarautobi and minato mamikazw would be a draw end of. They both posses the death demon seal jutsu so if sarutobi is lossing the fight he will use that jutst or visa versa
 
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Untill kishi shows us what he really could do ... the statements kishi wrote In His manga... and put in HIS databooks stand

Kabuto-Hiruzen was the strongest kage
Iruka-Strongest hokage
and finally -God of shinobi


All made it into the factual databook.... the thing that is lunacy is to contradict those statements, why would kishi put false statements into his databook? No minato was not the strongest hokage.... You fail to realize kishi writes the words that comes out each characters mouth... and if he made kabuto say hiruzen was the strongest kage in his time

Hiruzen is stronger than oonoki, yagura, third raikage, fourth kazekage....
No questions asked.... Kabuto said it in front of orochimaru , and orochimaru did not argue that it wasn't true....

By your logic, Chiyo saying that the third kazekage was the strongest kazekage with the deadliest weapon of the sand village, holds nothing? and gaara can beat him? NO it doesn't work like that.... kishi makes these statements for a reason.... If The Third was the strongest kazekage, and at that time gaara was already kazekage, that means Third kazekage > Current Gaara....

Yes in time gaara may just surpass the third and become the strongest kazekage.. but from chiyo's statement, third>gaara.....

Hiruzen>Minato....
the only here lunacy here is to think otherwise just because we haven't seen all he could do

Killer bee stating shishui was the strongest genjutsu user of the uchiha to itachi and naruto means
Shishui uchiha WAS the strongest genjutsu user of the uchiha.... you don't contradict statements like that, without proper reasoning...

your reasoning is what? that you cant see a way he would get around ftg? well of course you can't see away seeing that you only saw the man use a few jutsu....
you are saying that just because Sarutobi is the strongest hokage, strongest kage, and God of shinobi. ( just because the manga/notepads say that its absolute ) Well that could be true.... but he was probably only the god shinobi of his generation... you see the manga also says that the younger generation becomes stronger then the older generation ( hence progression ) and Minato being part of the younger generation is probably stronger then the 3rd hokage ( i mean your saying that the 3rd was the most powerful and that no other kage can beat him witch isn't really true because there are new ninja that are born and they have the ability to surpass the next generation. look at Naruto for example if he were to become the next Hokage then he would be considered the the most powerful Hokage that ever existed because right now at this moment naruto is more powerful then the 3rd Hokage..... and then after naruto becomes the next best Hokage ever then eventually after naruto gets old and his time comes to give the hokage title to someone else that other person that becomes hokage after naruto will probably most likely be alot stronger then naruto himself!! because the younger generation becomes stronger then the previous generation! :) ) because he has that time space jutsu and yeah you can say that all he has to do is deflect the kuni like itchi does yeah thats true buuut Minato is very clever and he doesnt exactly need to throw it directly at the 3rd... he could throw a whole bunch of those kuni every where then the 3rd would have know clue in where minato would appear so thats where his speed would win over the 3rd! :)........... and also you said that the 3rd hokage could beat the 3rd raikage i truly doubt that i mean the 3rd raikage has steel like skin, very fast!! and he doesnt need to use the kuni's like the 4th hokage, and the 3rd raikage fought a whole army for like 3 days non stop without dying!! and not only that the 3rd raikage survived a resenshudikan from naurto!!! now thats crazy and i dont think that the 3rd hokage has a move thats more powerful then naruto's resenshudikan!! :) so in the end i think that Minato would win in a fight against Sarutobi! xd......... lol now before u even say anything i am not a Minato fanboy!! :) and i am not a Sarutobi fan boy i am neither of them i am just thinking logically! and what the series says! :)
 
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Umm, are u forgetting that oro killed him, so I wouldn't quite consider hiruzen a god of shinobi, though he was old..I dunno, haven't seen many jutsus of both of 'em so can't tell for sure...I have a feeling that Minato would win.
 

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Umm, are u forgetting that oro killed him, so I wouldn't quite consider hiruzen a god of shinobi, though he was old..I dunno, haven't seen many jutsus of both of 'em so can't tell for sure...I have a feeling that Minato would win.
Key part is bolded in your quote. I think it would be much harder for Orochimaru to kill Hiruzen if he was in his prime.
 

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Lol exactly.....
Canon > Everything ?

It's stated in the manga that hiruzen is the strongest hokage
It's stated in the databooks that hiruzen is the strongest hokage
Canon >Everything
Why u hate on minato in every thread you go to?

I know wats next, konohamaru can beat minato...lol. You're such a dimwit and a hater you'll even argue for sth like that.
 

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you are saying that just because Sarutobi is the strongest hokage, strongest kage, and God of shinobi. ( just because the manga/notepads say that its absolute ) Well that could be true.... but he was probably only the god shinobi of his generation... you see the manga also says that the younger generation becomes stronger then the older generation ( hence progression ) and Minato being part of the younger generation is probably stronger then the 3rd hokage ( i mean your saying that the 3rd was the most powerful and that no other kage can beat him witch isn't really true because there are new ninja that are born and they have the ability to surpass the next generation. look at Naruto for example if he were to become the next Hokage then he would be considered the the most powerful Hokage that ever existed because right now at this moment naruto is more powerful then the 3rd Hokage..... and then after naruto becomes the next best Hokage ever then eventually after naruto gets old and his time comes to give the hokage title to someone else that other person that becomes hokage after naruto will probably most likely be alot stronger then naruto himself!! because the younger generation becomes stronger then the previous generation! :) ) because he has that time space jutsu and yeah you can say that all he has to do is deflect the kuni like itchi does yeah thats true buuut Minato is very clever and he doesnt exactly need to throw it directly at the 3rd... he could throw a whole bunch of those kuni every where then the 3rd would have know clue in where minato would appear so thats where his speed would win over the 3rd! :)........... and also you said that the 3rd hokage could beat the 3rd raikage i truly doubt that i mean the 3rd raikage has steel like skin, very fast!! and he doesnt need to use the kuni's like the 4th hokage, and the 3rd raikage fought a whole army for like 3 days non stop without dying!! and not only that the 3rd raikage survived a resenshudikan from naurto!!! now thats crazy and i dont think that the 3rd hokage has a move thats more powerful then naruto's resenshudikan!! :) so in the end i think that Minato would win in a fight against Sarutobi! xd......... lol now before u even say anything i am not a Minato fanboy!! :) and i am not a Sarutobi fan boy i am neither of them i am just thinking logically! and what the series says! :)

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Younger generation surpasses old...Which is why asuma can beat hashirama.....Yep I totally agree
thats why its true that manga can be at times false ...we naruto fans are expected to make analysis and deductions ....
manga says hiruzen is strongest but manga also says younger generation surpasses the previous one as we can say is not always the case.....
its the basic thing for a writer to write things suitable at that time.... in part 1 there werent many strong characters introduced even minato hadnt had any debut in part 1....it was suitable in part 1 but in part 2 i also agree that 3rd raikage might be stronger than the third hokage....
so dont just blindly follow manga use some logics , deductions and etc etc...
you only say based on the techniques and fights showned in manga wh do u think will win...???
 

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thats why its true that manga can be at times false ...we naruto fans are expected to make analysis and deductions ....
manga says hiruzen is strongest but manga also says younger generation surpasses the previous one as we can say is not always the case.....
its the basic thing for a writer to write things suitable at that time.... in part 1 there werent many strong characters introduced even minato hadnt had any debut in part 1....it was suitable in part 1 but in part 2 i also agree that 3rd raikage might be stronger than the third hokage....
so dont just blindly follow manga use some logics , deductions and etc etc...
you only say based on the techniques and fights showned in manga wh do u think will win...???

Manga can be false...But kishi also put it in his databook....The thing that has no lies, down to character height age etc.....
 

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The young does not always surpass the old.Just look at kakashi;according to you guys kakashi is stronger than minato.Minato also died young so he did not reach his full potential,making it much easier to make the case that he didn't surpass his predecessor,who lived a full life(then you add in all the prove from the manga/databook).
 
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Manga can be false...But kishi also put it in his databook....The thing that has no lies, down to character height age etc.....
lol, no lies?!?!
that's why tsunade, the weakest hokage, is stronger than the 3rd right? 35>34
common, + minato is not even in the databooks. he might have been all 5s.
now i don't know the issue of the fight, but what u said was retarded.
I think minato would win, because i don't know how the 3rd would touch him but not sure
 

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Okay this is ridiculous..The 3rd was scared of the 4th and the number of jutsu doesn't mean anything Hiruzen said it himself the true power of the shinobi is when they are protecting something they love, it depends on what they're fighting for. The FTG cant just be countered by spamming jutsu's at it. Im no fanboy but look at it realistically he can F***in teleport..
 
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