Hiruzen no God of shinobi?

[Fecal Matter]

This is still going on?? Hurizen is no god of shinobi.

ik but for some reason they deny it...

 

[KingHashirama]

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Viz translation


Please take note of the bold and stop being being stupid..
three people have been given the title "god of shinobi " in the manga thus far

1. Go read the current chapter, there is no "was" or "as". lmao. And your viz translation is no significant since you never provide the source.

2. You still fail to see the point made in this thread.

3. Point is when Hashirama was talking to Sarutobi.. and telling him he raised a skilled shinobi.. Orochimaru interrupted him and said its a honor to be praised by the God of shinobi.. not "He who was called the god of shinobi". Big difference.

Because it was a Hashi - Oro convo.

The subject was just Hiruzen training him, hiruzen was not participating in the convo, The convo was between Oro and hashi.

Just incase:

participating
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Take part.

First of all, Hashirama was talking to Hiruzen... ok sir? Orochimaru then came into the conversation.... I'm pretty sure you have logic to understand a basic conversation...

You do not even know what the title is given for, stop acting like you do

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It is given to people with "God" like power and feats. And apparently Hiruzen has none of those. When does please claim him to be the god of shinobi. Again like I said compared to the other 2 Hiruzen is a fail as a "God of shinobi".

 

[Exaar]

First of all, Hashirama was talking to Hiruzen... ok sir? Orochimaru then came into the conversation.... I'm pretty sure you have logic to understand a basic conversation...

But Oro was not talking to him, hence why he said nothing about hiruzen in the first place.

It is given to people with "God" like power and feats. And apparently Old Hiruzen has none of those. When does please claim him to be the god of shinobi. Again like I said compared to the other 2 Old Hiruzen is a fail as a "God of shinobi".

Fixed your post for you.

Hiruzen must of had immense strength otherwise he wouldn't of been given the title in the first place, that title isn't handed out to any old kage.

 

[KingHashirama]

But Oro was not talking to him, hence why he said nothing about hiruzen in the first place.

Fixed your post for you.

Hiruzen must of had immense strength otherwise he wouldn't of been given the title in the first place, that title isn't handed out to any old kage.

Prime Hiruzen feats.. please oh please name them.

IT doesn't matter if Oro was not talking to him.. lol. He ignored Hiruzen.. and instead talked to Hashirama. He could have just said " It was an honor to be raised by the God of shinobi".. which would have gone to Hiruzen.

Mass strength.. then Madara would've though of Hiruzen as something. The title apparently applies to his some period of time. For Hashirama and SO6P.. Its basically till they died.

Hashirama died as a Grandfather..

SO6P died even older. ;D.

If Hiruzen isn't called the God of shinobi even once here on.. then he was never the God of shinobi.

 

[Exaar]

Prime Hiruzen feats.. please oh please name them.

IT doesn't matter if Oro was not talking to him.. lol. He ignored Hiruzen.. and instead talked to Hashirama. He could have just said " It was an honor to be raised by the God of shinobi".. which would have gone to Hiruzen.

Oro ignoring him Proves nothing.

Mass strength.. then Madara would've though of Hiruzen as something. The title apparently applies to his some period of time. For Hashirama and SO6P.. Its basically till they died.

The sage created the moon on his death bed, It's no wonder he kept his title even in old age.

Hashirama died befor he reached old age.

If Hiruzen isn't called the God of shinobi even once here on.. then he was never the God of shinobi.

Are you really that desperate?, Saying he was never a God of shinobi simple because Oro didn't say it for a second time?.

How petty you are.

 

[KingHashirama]

Oro ignoring him Proves nothing.
The sage created the moon on his death bed, It's no wonder he kept his title even in old age.
Hashirama died befor he reached old age.
Are you really that desperate?, Saying he was never a God of shinobi simple because Oro didn't say it for a second time?.
How petty you are.

1. It proves Hashirama is considered higher
2. SO6P, had the Juubi's chakra... so he could create the death bed.
3. He was a grandfather easily 50+
4. Am i that desperate? uh no . Hashirama is VASLTY stronger then Hiruzen.. i'm not even tripping. But Hiruzen is featless and perosnally is not God of Shinobi. We will see in the future to.

 

[Exaar]

1. It proves Hashirama is considered higher
2. SO6P, had the Juubi's chakra... so he could create the death bed.
3. He was a grandfather easily 50+
4. Am i that desperate? uh no . Hashirama is VASLTY stronger then Hiruzen.. i'm not even tripping. But Hiruzen is featless and perosnally is not God of Shinobi. We will see in the future to.

1. It proves no such thing, it's just wishful thinking by you.
2. Doesn't matter if he had the juubi's chakra or not, it became his power when he became it's jinchuuriki.
3. Because he was a grandfather doesn't make him 50+.
4. He is stronger than the Hiruzen we've seen, This is Old hiruzen that Oro and Enma stated to be nothing compared to his prime. Yes thats your opinion, We havn't seen hiruzen's prime so we have to take Oro's words for it.

Prime Hiruzen was hailed as a god of shinobi, it's manga fact.

 

[KingHashirama]

1. It proves no such thing, it's just wishful thinking by you.
2. Doesn't matter if he had the juubi's chakra or not, it became his power when he became it's jinchuuriki.
3. Because he was a grandfather doesn't make him 50+.
4. He is stronger than the Hiruzen we've seen, This is Old hiruzen that Oro and Enma stated to be nothing compared to his prime. Yes thats your opinion, We havn't seen hiruzen's prime so we have to take Oro's words for it.

Prime Hiruzen was hailed as a god of shinobi, it's manga fact.

1. If you take it that way. However, in that way Orochimaru's statement about Hiruzen can also be just a "boast" statement ;]
2. Actually it does matter..... Thats the only difference between Hashirama and SO6P. Juubi is the sole difference.
3. Actually it does.. unless trying to say he had kids as a teenager ;]. Since we have no age on him.. we will go by the typical grandparent age 50+
4. Cause they haven't shown us. Hashirama > Hiruzen. Unless it changes sooner later on. Madara has lived throught the 3rd Hokages reign , he views Hashirama stronger. Orochimaru views Hashirama stronger.

Wrong, you added the "prime" he WAS hailed as the God of shinobi.. then what happened? he quit being the God of shinobi? lmao. That makes no sense.

 

[shelke]

As soon as Hashirama upped his Chakra all Kages were shitting bricks, including Hizuren. He seemed mighty impressed and was sweating. That doesn't seem like equality to me. The manga tiers have been drastically rearranged. Compared to PS and Mokuton forests, all his feats - which would remain the same in his prime - are unimpressive.

 

[Orochimagus]

Hiruzen was the God of Shinobi when all other Kages were dead. This made him the strongest living ninja. Now with Hashirama next to him, he loses that title.

 

[Kages]

1. If you take it that way. However, in that way Orochimaru's statement about Hiruzen can also be just a "boast" statement ;]
2. Actually it does matter..... Thats the only difference between Hashirama and SO6P. Juubi is the sole difference.
3. Actually it does.. unless trying to say he had kids as a teenager ;]. Since we have no age on him.. we will go by the typical grandparent age 50+
4. Cause they haven't shown us. Hashirama > Hiruzen. Unless it changes sooner later on. Madara has lived throught the 3rd Hokages reign , he views Hashirama stronger. Orochimaru views Hashirama stronger.

Wrong, you added the "prime" he WAS hailed as the God of shinobi.. then what happened? he quit being the God of shinobi? lmao. That makes no sense.

1. Well everything you are saying is an assumption

2. Lol no. You forgot Rinnegan and all the Rinnegan powers

3. We can't argue because we don't know his age.. Plus Hashirama was revived when he died and he doesn't look 50+

4. By feats sure

 

[Thundercles]

I think it is like an era thing. Hashirama was the God of Shinobi in his era, and Hiruzen was in his.

 

[Exaar]

1. If you take it that way. However, in that way Orochimaru's statement about Hiruzen can also be just a "boast" statement ;]
2. Actually it does matter..... Thats the only difference between Hashirama and SO6P. Juubi is the sole difference.
3. Actually it does.. unless trying to say he had kids as a teenager ;]. Since we have no age on him.. we will go by the typical grandparent age 50+
4. Cause they haven't shown us. Hashirama > Hiruzen. Unless it changes sooner later on. Madara has lived throught the 3rd Hokages reign , he views Hashirama stronger. Orochimaru views Hashirama stronger.

Wrong, you added the "prime" he WAS hailed as the God of shinobi.. then what happened? he quit being the God of shinobi? lmao. That makes no sense.

1. Oro words are backed up by the databooks, So i don't think so. Also if it wasn't true, he wouldn't say it in the first place, he gained nothing from saying it.
2. The only difference?, So you think Hashirama is on the base sages level, The man who has legendary weapons and the power to fightt he juubi? LOL!.
3. nothing but an assumption really.
4. I'm sorry what?, since when did oro state he thinks Hashirama is stronger?, Don't go making stuff up now.

So because kishi hasn't shown us it, he is wrong about his own manga?. Seems legit.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

I see nothing wrong, it doesn't contradict at all.
Hashirama was hailed as the strongest of his generation. He was the 'GOD' of shinobi in his time.

Hiruzen has been hailed even in his old age by kabuto who was a spy for all these villages as the strongest, but also oro called his god of shinobi. He was the 'GOD' of shinobi in his time
Its rather simple that, both can be called God of shinobi's because they are completely in different generations.

They were the very best of their time. Thats about it

This right here. Blaze Release just broke it down.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

1. Oro words are backed up by the databooks, So i don't think so. Also if it wasn't true, he wouldn't say it in the first place, he gained nothing from saying it.
2. The only difference?, So you think Hashirama is on the base sages level, The man who has legendary weapons and the power to fightt he juubi? LOL!.
3. nothing but an assumption really.
4. I'm sorry what?, since when did oro state he thinks Hashirama is stronger?, Don't go making stuff up now.

So because kishi hasn't shown us it, he is wrong about his own manga?. Seems legit.

It seems the both of you are really going at it in this debate. I'm surprised you two were still arguing. I left this thread back when it was still on page 5, hours later, it's on page 8. But I have a question.

WHY IS THIS NOT IN THE HOTTEST THREADS yet?

 

[FearxDeath]

If both lebron james and micheal jordan were in the room and I said its great to finally be talking to be talking with the best basketball player ever who would you think i was talking to?

 

[From the Dark Spire]

If both lebron james and micheal jordan were in the room and I said its great to finally be talking to be talking with the best basketball player ever who would you think i was talking to?

This in a nutshell. Michael Jordan, because he's a legend.

 

[tracytracy22]

I think it is like an era thing. Hashirama was the God of Shinobi in his era, and Hiruzen was in his.

This is what I think. In general, Hashirama is probably stronger that Hiruzen but when they were in their primes, they were so much sronger than everybody else that they both got the 'god of shinobi' title.

 

[Dean-Winchester]

why are people hating on hiruzen? this is a guy who has been the longest living hokage ever? chill the **** out
He may not be the god of shinobi......but still He is THE Professor and people can have the same title? in the manga suigetsu has been named second demon coming and his brother has the same name plus master of all 7 swords and dont get me started with titles like "saivour of the world" thats shared between naruto ,nagato and minato& then obitos nonsens of bein the 3rd path of pain or whatever ppll/noobs need to chill with stupid threads like these..... and just make decent discusions but im going to be ignores so screw it

 

[KingHashirama]

1. Oro words are backed up by the databooks, So i don't think so. Also if it wasn't true, he wouldn't say it in the first place, he gained nothing from saying it.
2. The only difference?, So you think Hashirama is on the base sages level, The man who has legendary weapons and the power to fightt he juubi? LOL!.
3. nothing but an assumption really.
4. I'm sorry what?, since when did oro state he thinks Hashirama is stronger?, Don't go making stuff up now.

So because kishi hasn't shown us it, he is wrong about his own manga?. Seems legit.

1. Databook is based on the manga... Everything in the databook .. is from the manga.. copy to copy. He gained nothing from calling Hashirama the God of shinobi.. now did he ;]
2. Do you even know sage levels? Power to fight juubi.. omh and your talking about Hashirama the guy who had tailed beast pets... I see no difference.
3. Its the truth..
4. When he called him the GOD OF SHINOBI.. there was no PAST tense to it now as there.

1. Well everything you are saying is an assumption

2. Lol no. You forgot Rinnegan and all the Rinnegan powers

3. We can't argue because we don't know his age.. Plus Hashirama was revived when he died and he doesn't look 50+

4. By feats sure

1. Same for yall

2. And you forgot that in Powerscale.. mokuton is stronger. And also, Mokuton has things Rinnegan does not have.. Also, Hashirama is a trained Fighter.... lmao. He is superior in fighting. Based on Rinnegan feats from Nagato.. Mokuton is superior in "Power".
3. And what do looks have to do with anything? lol.
4. Even by hype ;D

This in a nutshell. Michael Jordan, because he's a legend.

Jordan = Overrated mate.