Hiruzen is better than Tobirama at Suiton by feats.
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Believe in the Hype!
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360NoScopeKamui
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Tobirama's hype has changed. It used to be "Guy with the best Suiton." Now it's "Guy who invented pretty much every ninja tech."
360NoScopeKamui
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Hiruzen was considered the strongest Kage at the time of his death. Knowing that, how in the world does A beat prime Hiruzen?.. . .maybe in his prime but he's old and no lol he never was. just to name a few, 3rd and 4th raikage blows his face off and their fast enough to do so, naruto murders him, sasuke stomps him, madar harashima maybe tobirama thats 6 right there and i can keep going.
I was about to take a crap on another delusional Hiruzen fan. But that picture of Madara made me laugh. Lmao
OT: no, Hiruzen's old ass is not even top 15...that panel of Kabuto saying he was the God of Shinobi is too much. Do you people understand that writers change up points they made early in the story all the time? Foolish human.
OT: no, Hiruzen's old ass is not even top 15...that panel of Kabuto saying he was the God of Shinobi is too much. Do you people understand that writers change up points they made early in the story all the time? Foolish human.
The Necromancer
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I'll take a scan. Trust me. I've researched far more than you. I even know what scan you're going to go look for.
I agree. Took the words right out of my mouth... . .maybe in his prime but he's old and no lol he never was. just to name a few, 3rd and 4th raikage blows his face off and their fast enough to do so, naruto murders him, sasuke stomps him, madar harashima maybe tobirama thats 6 right there and i can keep going.
KingHashirama
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Why not forget the better wind user/lightening user also? clearly he did on a bigger scale than anyone else..
OK. I will tell you why Hiruzen is powerful.
Anyone who is trusted by Hashirama and Tobirama to protect the village during the wars is bound to be powerful. It's common sense that he is worthy of the title Hokage since it was given to him by 2 monsters of Hokages. Learning the skills and knowledge from the 1st and 2nd, Hiruzen was able to get the village through 3 Great Shinobi World Wars. Having the longest reign of Hokage. 40+ Years.
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"Named "The Professor: [...] The origin [of this nickname] lies in him knowing thoroughly all the jutsu that exist in the village and also being able to use them easily at will."
His ability in Ninjutsu is excellent as he is able to use all of the Leaf village's Non KKG Jutsu of his time which include the famous Ino–Shika–Chō with Kage Bunshins, unparalleled mastery in all the 5 Elements the ability to use the vicious 8 Gates and mastery over all forms of Shinobi combat such as Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, Genjutsu, Fuuinjutsu and Kenjutsu. Hiruzen has also shown the ability to discern which technique a person intends to use after observing the hand seals which gives Hiruzen the ability to come up with a proper counter measure for the technique before it's released.
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This kind of knowledge makes him an extremely versatile ninja who is capable of countering almost anything thrown at him.
His intelligence is amazing as he is able to deduce Obito's mysterious substance only moments after witnessing it, stating that it was similar to the kekkei tōta but the attack's shape is dynamic, so it can be used offensively and defensively, and that it is even beyond kekkei tōta. He also was able to deduce that there is a limit to the duration of transformations the substance can hold for.
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The misconception here is that this was Hiruzen's best attack against Obito when clearly all he meant to was analyze his offensive attacks. Sasuke even notes this.
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His expertise in close quarter combat is excellent because literally after sealing parts of his soul away in the Reaper and using up almost all his Chakra, Hiruzen was able to easily disarm the Kusanagi Blade from Orochimaru and catch him in close range.
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Using these scans, I am positively sure of the existence of a technique that can either negate summonings or Ninjutsu in general.
You can see when Hiruzen says " I must do something about the third one" and he clasps his hands together indicating that he has activated a jutsu to stop the third coffin from appearing.
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This is further proven when in this scan he says " I was able to stop the third one"
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Despite many not agreeing with me, Hiruzen has made himself very relevant in the recent chapter due to being the last Edo Hokage standing and being the only one defending the Shinobi Alliance with the 5 Kage.
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Madara Uzumaki Uchiha
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Hiruzen should have no problem doing that same suiton x5- considering he was using clones
- his combination Justu must be ridiculous, I bet that's why he is called god of shinobi.
- remember, edo are significantly weaker than living incarnation
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