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I would prefer the manga without a character who is forced to be a main heroine.

Naruto and Sasuke are mains, and Kakashi leads and involved wtih both them and main villians.

You know what would happen if Hinata was the main heroine?
She would be another failure of characterization she already is and everybody would call the latest improvement in chapter an asspull. She is not as relevant due to some eyeball. I don't see people trying to putting Hashirama or Nagato in a relevancy or main character bucket just because of their linage.
 
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I'd disagree. Hinata learning Medical Ninjutsu and not Jyuken would be a bad move. She's a Hyuga. To suddenly have no use of her natural style would honestly be disappointing.
The only real problem I see with Sakura training under Tsunade is that Sakura at that time would have a full team while Hinata is "alone". Such a start for me always suggest a Genjutsu Sakura and a medical + Jyuken Hinata.

Hinata would get nothing from learning Tsunade's strength technique so this time could be invested into her clan's training. Throw in chakra scalpels and Jyuken could be even more deadly. Also a med shinobi with the Byakugan seems much more effective.
 
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I would prefer the manga without a character who is forced to be a main heroine.

Naruto and Sasuke are mains, and Kakashi leads and involved wtih both them and main villians.

You know what would happen if Hinata was the main heroine?
She would be another failure of characterization she already is and everybody would call the latest improvement in chapter an asspull. She is not as relevant due to some eyeball. I don't see people trying to putting Hashirama or Nagato in a relevancy or main character bucket just because of their linage.
This, so much.
 

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Team 7 would have been too OP and lacked the unique bonds formed by a shunned outcast, a girl without a bloodline and a boy who came from a powerful clan. The impossibility of their clashing personalities working together is what makes Team 7 endearing. Add a socially awkward replacement for Sasuke who can't keep his mouth shut and they are quite memorable! They are in no way perfect and Sakura knew she would never be their true equal, but like Lee she made herself stronger despite lacking true power.

It would have been boring with Hinata or just plain spooky if she had been made to lust after Sasuke and Sakura was the shy girl wanting Naruto. Lol

Sakura has also been compared to Kushina (Minato himself said so), Rin and Tsunade. Those former teams paralleled Team 7 (still unsure about Kushina) and their characters would be changed to match Hinata and that would be a shame.
 
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Hmm - a lot of valid points.

I think in terms of 'what would happen to the plot' if Hinata replaced Sakura - Kishi would write it to suit, the plot would work itself out regardless of who the kunoichi is on Team 7.
Ex: Hinata would become an apprentice to Tsunade (symmetry of Legendary Three), she would save Kankuro, defeat Sasori alongside Chiyo etc).
It would differ - but the outcomes could be same, given some ingenuity.

I don't think Sakura is the poster-girl of 'hard work' more than Hinata is...
Hinata isn't the prodigy, she worked hard for her skills and in the process created her own techniques. Yes she has a dojutsu but Sakura has her perfect chakra control/intelligence.
The hardworker with no real talent to begin with is Naruto - not Sakura. Sakura was blessed with some advantages, she didn't have absolutely nothing to begin with.

Hinata as a 'main' would have been more interesting not just because of her character - but because of her Clan, of Neji and their backstory. Because she's more connected to other characters than Sakura is - because she has a maturity that comes from a hard upbringing, though it differs from Naruto and Sasuke's sense of 'alone'... Hinata has suffered that to some degree also = a bond.

Sakura on the other hand resents her loving parents... her rivalry with Ino is gone with the ****ing wind and makes little sense anymore.
Her techniques are entirely Tsuande's...

I don't think Hinata would have used Tsunade's Enhanced Chakra Strength but I'm more than okay with that. I'd prefer it if that was a Tsunade-only technique anyway, it never made much sense to me that Sakura has it perfect chakra or not.

What Tsunade could have given Hinata was medical-ninjutsu techniques, a Slug summon, fuinjutsu and guidence in making her own techiques.
A technique to enhance her Gentle Fist = Lion Fists.

A lot of the medical-ninjutsu offensive moves look like bastardized versions of juuken anyway. Not hard to see how Hinata's blood line would work well with med-nin skills in offenseive/defensive/healing variations.


Team 7 Dynamics
Obviously it would differ - but I think there's potential.

Take Sasuke for example, if he were more aware of Hinata and her position in her clan, would he see himself? The less favoured, less talented one who seeks their father's approval?
I figure it would be a painful reminder - Hinata would embody much of his self prior to the massacre.
... then imagine if he had witnessed her fight during the Chunin Exams against her 'nii-san'.
 
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And she actually looks like a woman and not a 10 y.o. hamster-schoolgirl with low self-esteem.
lol she does not look like a women
a women have boobs not a flat chest like Sakuras
and + she falls for the freaking douche bag of the story that tells a lot about her unlike hinata who went for the nice guy who tried his best all through out his life
 

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The only real problem I see with Sakura training under Tsunade is that Sakura at that time would have a full team while Hinata is "alone". Such a start for me always suggest a Genjutsu Sakura and a medical + Jyuken Hinata.

Hinata would get nothing from learning Tsunade's strength technique so this time could be invested into her clan's training. Throw in chakra scalpels and Jyuken could be even more deadly. Also a med shinobi with the Byakugan seems much more effective.
I mean it hardly seems to be a problem when it comes to alone time. Sakura made Chunin without her team. It wouldn't make much of a difference IMO. Simply because it was a time skip which furthered strength off panel.

Honestly I'm surprised Jyuken with its chakra control doesn't already have its own chakra scalpel. Like the Defense 64 palms filler move that could easily cut through the Bees.

But I know what you mean. The Byakugan would undoubtedly help with Medical Ninjutsu and being able to swap between Jyuken and Medical Iron Fist would make you nearly impossible to predict. A light tap striking the chakra node or a bone shattering palm thrust?

I'd find simply expanding Hyuga techs would be enough. I mean they have basically have 3 techs involving chakra manipulation (Excluding Air Wall Palm which is a double air palm, and One Body Blow which is a non spinning rotation). Add in some slashes, chakra arrow projection, and things like that and they'd be easily as interesting as Medical Ninjutsu.
 

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Sakura of Team 8
  • Genjutsu affinity - replace Kurenai as a master of genjutsu, inherit that legacy
  • Role model - Kurenai could beat the fan-girl out of her
  • Balance - 2 Clan kids + 1 non-Clan
  • Rivalry - Ino-pig on opposing team, neither with Sasuke
  • Love Triangle - still works, Kushina/Minato weren't on the same genin team either
  • Med-nin - under Shizune w/Ino, integrate poison use with genjutsu for offensive/defensive techniques
 
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Sakura of Team 8
  • Genjutsu affinity
  • Role model - Kurenai could beat the fan-girl out of her
  • Balance - 2 Clan kids + 1 non-Clan
  • Rivalry - Ino-pig on opposing team, neither with Sasuke
  • Love Triangle - still work, Kushina/Minato weren't on the same genin team either
  • Med-nin - under Shizune w/Ino, integrate poison use with genjutsu for offensive/defensive techniques
This is all assuming she gets more development than Hinata did as a part of Team 8. IMO, Team 7 Sakura with sufficient development > Team 7 Hinata with sufficient development.
 

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Hmm - a lot of valid points.

I think in terms of 'what would happen to the plot' if Hinata replaced Sakura - Kishi would write it to suit, the plot would work itself out regardless of who the kunoichi is on Team 7.
Ex: Hinata would become an apprentice to Tsunade (symmetry of Legendary Three), she would save Kankuro, defeat Sasori alongside Chiyo etc).
It would differ - but the outcomes could be same, given some ingenuity.

I don't think Sakura is the poster-girl of 'hard work' more than Hinata is...
Hinata isn't the prodigy, she worked hard for her skills and in the process created her own techniques. Yes she has a dojutsu but Sakura has her perfect chakra control/intelligence.
The hardworker with no real talent to begin with is Naruto - not Sakura. Sakura was blessed with some advantages, she didn't have absolutely nothing to begin with.

Hinata as a 'main' would have been more interesting not just because of her character - but because of her Clan, of Neji and their backstory. Because she's more connected to other characters than Sakura is - because she has a maturity that comes from a hard upbringing, though it differs from Naruto and Sasuke's sense of 'alone'... Hinata has suffered that to some degree also = a bond.

Sakura on the other hand resents her loving parents... her rivalry with Ino is gone with the ****ing wind and makes little sense anymore.
Her techniques are entirely Tsuande's...

I don't think Hinata would have used Tsunade's Enhanced Chakra Strength but I'm more than okay with that. I'd prefer it if that was a Tsunade-only technique anyway, it never made much sense to me that Sakura has it perfect chakra or not.

What Tsunade could have given Hinata was medical-ninjutsu techniques, a Slug summon, fuinjutsu and guidence in making her own techiques.
A technique to enhance her Gentle Fist = Lion Fists.

A lot of the medical-ninjutsu offensive moves look like bastardized versions of juuken anyway. Not hard to see how Hinata's blood line would work well with med-nin skills in offenseive/defensive/healing variations.


Team 7 Dynamics
Obviously it would differ - but I think there's potential.

Take Sasuke for example, if he were more aware of Hinata and her position in her clan, would he see himself? The less favoured, less talented one who seeks their father's approval?
I figure it would be a painful reminder - Hinata would embody much of his self prior to the massacre.
... then imagine if he had witnessed her fight during the Chunin Exams against her 'nii-san'.
The problem is we are making assumptions. Sadly it is hard to say. I mean honestly both of the girls would be AMAZING if both were legitimately developed.


Sakura Team 7

-Love triangle
-Ino Rivalry
- Finds Naruto a pest...slowly comes to understand him.
-During time skip learns both Medical Ninjutsu from Tsunade and Medical Ninjutsu from Kurenai or even Kakashi.

Concluding powers...

-Intellectually gifted
-Genjutsu master
-Yin Seal
-Slug Summon
-Chakra enhanced strength
-Chakra scalpel

-Mystic Palms
-Poison Mastery
-Various Drug Concoctions (sleeping bombs)


Not to mention the Bolded make for a virtually OP combo.



If we assumed Sakura was properly developed, her position holds basically as much legitimacy as Hinata would be.


Hinata on Team 7

-64 Palms
-Soshiken
-Air Palm
-Kaiten
-Other new Jutsu for the Hyuga
-Admiration of Naruto
-Understanding of Sasuke's position (wanting acknowledgement. Not clan massacre)
-Condense the above two to be able to bridge understanding between Sasuke and Naruto.
-Kaguya/Hyuga now relevant background
-Hard work theme





Honestly it's basically the same if we were to keep their abilities and just assume they got the optimal development. Both work just fine in Team 8 as well.
 

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Sakura would last only 1 day in team 8 and be placed back to team 7. She would've been too powerful for Kunerai, Kunerai would've showed her genjutsu, and Sakura's basically would've Vern up in the tree , bored. Kunerai would've been good for Sakura, but Sakura would develop to fast. Hinata would be an mess inn team 7 , first of all it's an imbalance , even though Sakura and Sasuke were the yin types of the group, and Sakura eyes were the sharpest at the start, Sasuke still had the occular prowess, to occular beings in one team is redundant, even more so when Sasuke can replicate hinatas abilities,

So even if Sakura was in team 8, she would still be the main character only with genjutsu, Tsunade would still choose her to train, because she is the best for medical ninjutsu, due to her perfect chakra control, Hinata is average at best, but Sakura is god level in chakra control
 

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I posted this in another thread. I'll repost it here.

Watching the Omakes, I get the sense that TPTB/creative team of Naruto the anime enjoy pitting Sakura against Hinata. It's like they know the fans really favor both of them.

[video=youtube;hzq69mR9HjA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzq69mR9HjA[/video]

Sakura being jealous of Hinata's popularity.






Sakura again being threatend by Hinata's popularity. It's satire yes but fun. I especially like how Sakura says "Naruto-kun" in her sexy voice. :nosebleed: Someone's cherry blossom is going to bloom!! And or uh pop. lol jk
 

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With the latest revealations in the manga (chapter 671) - I can't help but wish that Hinata had been part of Team 7 from the beginning, instead of Sakura.

Now, now - it's not my intention to bash Sakura. It probably doesn't help much that I dislike her character a fair bit, but from what I've picked up on from these quotes... Hinata is generally more popular and there's a belief she'd make a better leading lady.

An no -this isn't a Hinata/Naruto thread either. I don't think romance is key, nor should there be any real 'confirmed' pairings between main characters like them until the end (if at all).





Just wondering if any of you lot feel the same way?

Have niggling thought at the back of my mind that perhaps Kishi has his motives for not having Hinata as part of the new Legendary Three.
Perhaps there's more to had regarding Sakura's heritage or background? Or maybe the whole point behind Sakura is that she isn't decended from Ashura and Indra at all...

Sakura of Team 8 - I feel would have made her a better person, regardless of whether or not she ended up as Tsunade's apprentice. I don't think being on Sasuke's team did the fan-girl any favours...
I think Kurenai would have made for a better sensei than Kakashi - and it would have kept up the Ino/Sakura rivalry nicely, since neither girl is placed on Sasuke's team and therefore still 'equal' in that sense.
Also there's Sakura's genjutsu affinity - stated by Kakashi that she has a talent for it in Part I - we never hear much about it again after that. I think with Kurenai's love for red, use of flora/fauna genjutsu would have worked well for a pink-haired girl named Sakura.

Plus Kurenai could have done with a true apprentice, instead of three Clan kids who don't seem to use genjutsu at all.

Thoughts on this?

:shy:
Sakura was used in Part 1 as the agressive partner, who would punish the idiotic protagonist.
Just like DBZ with Goku and Chi Chi

It was funny, and it helped Naruto mature really.
Tbh if Hinata was part of Team 7, she'd be dead from the excssive fainting whenever shes near Naruto xD jks.

Plus, i think Sakura belongs in team seven, since team seven very much resembles the three great sannins. Tsunade also being aggresive, with great power and great medical ninjutsu.
Just some of my thoughts ^^
 

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Sakura would last only 1 day in team 8 and be placed back to team 7. She would've been too powerful for Kunerai, Kunerai would've showed her genjutsu, and Sakura's basically would've Vern up in the tree , bored. Kunerai would've been good for Sakura, but Sakura would develop to fast. Hinata would be an mess inn team 7 , first of all it's an imbalance , even though Sakura and Sasuke were the yin types of the group, and Sakura eyes were the sharpest at the start, Sasuke still had the occular prowess, to occular beings in one team is redundant, even more so when Sasuke can replicate hinatas abilities,
So even if Sakura was in team 8, she would still be the main character only with genjutsu, Tsunade would still choose her to train, because she is the best for medical ninjutsu, due to her perfect chakra control, Hinata is average at best, but Sakura is god level in chakra control
First Bold: Assumption. Pure assumption. Considering Sakura did not use Genjutsu even once in the series does not suggest she'd instantly master it.

Second Bold: Imbalance how? Because two Dojutsu users are on a team?! Furthermore, replication of techniques?! Pray tell how Saskue suddenly can see 10 Kilometers in any direction? How Sasuke can see through walls? How Sasuke can see tenketsu? The only "similarity" the eyes share is seeing Chakra..... that's it. Yet the Byakugan's use of it is superior. If anything, Hinata simply would have been the keen eyed one in the group... since her Visual prowess would have been the best as far as Part I goes. If anything, two dojutsu users would have been a rather intelligent move. Recall, they were originally to control Kurama. Sasuke's sharingan being able to control Biju. So while you have Sasuke visually halting Kurama. At the same time you could have had Hinata's more advanced observation of chakra to block of key points to prevent a true flow of Kurama's chakra. Which... assuming Naruto wasn't willing the chakra to come forth wouldn't end like Naruto vs Neji... and hell, even if it did... that doesn't mean they can't be blocked again.

Also, god level, please. God level would be what Naruto did. Matching the chakra signatures of EVERY alliance combatant almost simultaneously and nearly instantaneously. Then maintaining this whilst fighting against Madara/Obito. Sakura has shown top tier Chakra control... but god level is an exaggeration.

Hinata's control is above average. Twin Lion Fists shows mastery over shape manipulation. The manipulation manifesting an actual physical appearance honestly puts the control even over that of Rasengan... which is a ball... a ball. Jyuken itself focuses entirely on control of chakra. Pinpointing the tenketsu on the hand to release chakra into the opponent to either speed up or slow down a system requires great control and understanding. Being able to fire off enough chakra for air wall palm also has to factor in not just mastery over tenketsu release, but focus and pressure of chakra to create a physical blast of wind. So really until the Yin-Seal completed... they were fairly on even ground in terms of feats. By hype however, Sakura has always been said to have great control. Even then she's honestly still below Tsunade in terms of control.

Now let's return to this Imbalance idea. Now, how is Sakura and Sasuke being Yin users and Naruto a Yang user balanced?! It is impossible to have them balanced.... so Hinata and Naruto being Yang users while Sasuke a Yin user is honestly not very different. And Frankly, this is exactly how it turned out. Sakura and Naruto focusing on being Yang (direct) attackers with Sasuke being a Yin (genjutsu) user. Which honestly didn't end up having any merit since Sasuke himself hardly uses Genjutsu and instead focuses on Ninjutsu.
 

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The manipulation manifesting an actual physical appearance honestly puts the control even over that of Rasengan... which is a ball... a ball.
XD

That made me laugh. :)



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As a technique it certainly looks impressive, ne? I wish we saw more of it in the manga though.

It's in one of the aspects that makes Hinata more interesting (over Sakura AND in general) to me, the creation of her own techniques - how she's developed her own unique move set, even though she comes from a clan like the Hyuga.

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