Hidan vs Tsunade

[Horus]

We're talking about Hidan not tsunade so we dont have to take her into account. His head needed to be fixed onto his body for him to move again BUT how can his brain work when he got beheaded? A beheaded man's brain would be dead but hidan still was alive.

As you said, it was spiritual. he experimented in jashinism, but from the prospect that he needed to connect his head to his body suggests that nerves are involved, as he'd need his brain to send signals to other body parts in order for movement to be possible. Which we can then further assume that BPD would work on him.

 

[New Dawn]

As you said, it was spiritual. he experimented in jashinism, but from the prospect that he needed to connect his head to his body suggests that nerves are involved, as he'd need his brain to send signals to other body parts in order for movement to be possible. Which we can then further assume that BPD would work on him.

There is a problem with this theory because his brain should be dead when he got beheaded.

 

[Horus]

There is a problem with this theory because his brain should be dead when he got beheaded.

It should be noted that Kishimoto doesn't work directly with logic in the NarutoVerse. Hidan's immortality stems from his experimentation and devotion to Jashinism; therefore his ability to be beheaded and still be alive is understandable, as it relates to his "religion", but it apparently doesn't go so far as to support his body when being beheaded, which we've seen, as, I'm repeating my point once more, he needed to be re-connected to his body in order to have control again, which we can logically say, requires a nervous system input. But again, logic doesn't work in the NV

 

[New Dawn]

It should be noted that Kishimoto doesn't work directly with logic in the NarutoVerse. Hidan's immortality stems from his experimentation and devotion to Jashinism; therefore his ability to be beheaded and still be alive is understandable, as it relates to his "religion", but it apparently doesn't go so far as to support his body when being beheaded, which we've seen, as, I'm repeating my point once more, he needed to be re-connected to his body in order to have control again, which we can logically say, requires a nervous system input. But again, logic doesn't work in the NV

AZ already pointed out that if the brain was the core of his nervous system, why didnt it die out when he got beheaded? You cant just say "logic doesnt work" and therefore your theory is correct. It doesnt work this way. Theres no double standard. Logic dont work is a cop out. Gaara's sand is immune to water because logic dont work. Hidan's nervous system is a mutual relationship. The brain and the body needs to work together. One cannot exist without the other. But it seems that hidan's brain still functions when its not suppose to. So that leaves a hole in your theory. If his brain can't die without the body that means His brain can defy the laws of science. So tsunade probably can't shut his brain down by disconnecting it. His immortality is spiritual.

 

[Selan]

It was said that Hidan is akatsuki's slowest member. He isn't dodging Tsunade's attacks.

Why not? Part 1 Kabuto could dodge them with absolute ease.

 

[Horus]

AZ already pointed out that if the brain was the core of his nervous system, why didnt it die out when he got beheaded? You cant just say "logic doesnt work" and therefore your theory is correct. It doesnt work this way. Theres no double standard. Logic dont work is a cop out. Gaara's sand is immune to water because logic dont work. Hidan's nervous system is a mutual relationship. The brain and the body needs to work together. One cannot exist without the other. But it seems that hidan's brain still functions when its not suppose to. So that leaves a hole in your theory. His brain can defy the laws of science. His immortal body is spiritual.

It seems we're both engaging in Argumentum ad nauseam, so I'll desist from arguing here because neither of us are apparently gonna agree with each other, and we'll never know what the outcome of this battle will be.

 

[lucario14]

Why not? Part 1 Kabuto could dodge them with absolute ease.

Dodging the ground as it crumbles beneath him? It's pretty hard dodging an earthquake.

 

[New Dawn]

It seems we're both engaging in Argumentum ad nauseam, so I'll desist from arguing here because neither of us are apparently gonna agree with each other, and we'll never know what the outcome of this battle will be.

good enough but Hidan still wins. His brain is suppose to die when he got beheaded but it still lives. This means its a spiritual thing. Your facial nervous system won't work when your head is chopped off. AZ understands that its complicated but you can thank Kishi for that since the immortal arcleft many unanswered questions that needed clarification. The more u delve into it, the more u find flaws. But that doesnt mean one can say "logic dont work" or "plot".

 

[KingHashirama]

I always wonder why people leave out the fact she can hit people's pressure points in CQC.....

 

[New Dawn]

Dodging the ground as it crumbles beneath him? It's pretty hard dodging an earthquake.

Oro and kabuto dodged it at point blank casually. Even p1 naruto can dodge it. Its all power with no dazzling speed.

I always wonder why people leave out the fact she can hit people's pressure points in CQC.....

Hidan got his organs and ribs crushed and he still did back flips. At that rate, any person even Madara would have his whole body shut down. Pressure points won't work.

 

[KingHashirama]

Hidan got his organs and ribs crushed and he still did back flips. At that rate, any person even Madara would have his whole body shut down. Pressure points won't work.

You didn't prove how pressure points won't work.

Hitting him on the pressure points will be disabling his movements. As the body relies on the pressure points and thats where all the tension and etc is built, even for hidan.


The moment Tsunade takes out his muscles is the moment he becomes a weakling, who won't be able to do shit.

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[New Dawn]

You didn't prove how pressure points won't work.

Hitting him on the pressure points will be disabling his movements. As the body relies on the pressure points and thats where all the tension and etc is built, even for hidan.


The moment Tsunade takes out his muscles is the moment he becomes a weakling, who won't be able to do shit.

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Hidan got his pressure points crushed and he still walked and talked. Read AZ's posts.

 

[KingHashirama]

Hidan got his pressure points crushed and he still walked and talked. Read AZ's posts.

2 different issues.

Is this the part you are referring to with "got crushed".

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[New Dawn]

2 different issues.

Is this the part you are referring to with "got crushed".

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Not only that. The beginning when he got his organs and ribs crushed by the konoha jonins. He got shadow stitched as well yet he resisted. Hidan gets pressure points crushed all the time but he doesnt give a damn. Its the same issue. U strike a pressure point to immobolize. There is no difference when u can also stab a pressure point. Its the same thing. The sternum is a lressure point and hidan abuses it all the time.

 

[KingHashirama]

Not only that. The beginning when he got his organs and ribs crushed by the konoha jonins. He got shadow stitched as well yet he resisted. Hidan gets pressure points crushed all the time but he doesnt give a damn. Its the same issue. U strike a pressure point to immobolize. There is no difference when u can also stab a pressure point. Its the same thing. The sternum is a lressure point and hidan abuses it all the time.

Well here is the issue and the difference between what you are saying and what I'm saying.


Your claim: Pressure points are irrelevant because he was fine with destroyed organs


MY claim: Pressure points will **** up his movement.


Now for an explanation, of why him living while those organs were crushed doesn't have anything to do with him getting his movement restricted, I will be bringing in the "chakra points" focused by the Hyuuga taijutsu.

These are the chakra points of a ninja and notice where they are:

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This is Tsunade's state, notice that all her chakra points in the waist section were destroyed by the susanoo sword:

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^^^ Tsunade can move fine with the chakra points getting destroyed, however if a Hyuuga blocks those chakra points.. it becomes an entirely different issue. I wish Kishimoto had more depthful stuff when it comes to this... but this i think is just one of the rare examples i can find for ya.

 

[Team7monaa]

Tsunaade engages in CQC tanks his attacks and strikes his legs, thus immobilising him. She then proceeds to tear him apart. Tsunade neg-diff.