Hiashi could probably beat sage mode Naruto

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Rasengan(by feats) 1shits on Hiashi Sage Mode is beyond his lame ass.
The only ability thats going to work here is summonings and Naruto is going to need a lot of prep to beat Hiashi.
 

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SM Naruto couldn't even fight pein without a severe handicapp. Deva was powered out and Pein was trying to capture him. SM Naruto has nothing on a full powered Byakugan user.

the only way Naruto wins this battle if he summons all the toads to fight for him.
Finally someone calls out the obvious handicap match. Disgusting how much they over wank pain arc naruto but low ball hebi sasuke.
 

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And most of those were prepped the moment naruto arrived to fight pain :sdo:
Doesnt matter really. He said SM Naruto that fought pain thats what he gets lol.

Nothing wrong with being prepared for something. Sasuke prepped for itachi. You supposed to prep b4 a fight.
 

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Close Combat isn't an option.Frog kata is obviously superior
Vaccum Palm may do the trick but don't see why naruto cannot dodge it.
SM naruto mid diffs at most
 

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Doesnt matter really. He said SM Naruto that fought pain thats what he gets lol.

Nothing wrong with being prepared for something. Sasuke prepped for itachi. You supposed to prep b4 a fight.
Not the samething at all. The way you have him set up is like 2 steps ahead advantage before the fight even starts.
 

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Your point? Even if it was the extreme ignorance and bias would still exist. Every idiot claiming sasuke can't contend until he gets susanoo and pain arc naruto is goldly is complete udder bullshit.
Im still wondering why Sasuke was even brought up? Thats my point. What do you think about Hiashi. Thats what the thread is about. Everything dont have to be naruto vs sasuke all the time bruh.

Sasuke certainly can contend with SM Naruto. Its just SM Naruto varies in power from when he first ues it(hindered by kyuubi) and when he masters it(kyuubi lets it happen). Just like MS Sasuke powers varies as he progresses with it.
 

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I can't. You know what I CAN show you though?
The crater he was punched into.

Just coming in to correct this statement.

Naruto's didn't punch through , wat happend was Neji's Chakra clashed with Naruto Chakra which instantly resulted in the explosion , tho i find it funny that u think Naruto punched all the way through his own chakra which was getting redirected by Kaiten , along with Neji's chakra , after the Chakra clash already happend.

Its a common misconception so its ntn tho.
 
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Just coming in to correct this statement.

Naruto's didn't punch through , wat happend was Neji's Chakra clashed with Naruto Chakra which instantly resulted in the explosion , tho i find it funny that u think Naruto punched all the way through his own chakra which was getting redirected by Kaiten , along with Neji's chakra , after the Chakra clash already happend.

Its a common misconception so its ntn tho.
This proves my point regardless though, that the Kaiten is not that invunerable and can be pierced through with enough power, even if it causes a backlash if hit with similar strength.
 

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This proves my point regardless though, that the Kaiten is not that invunerable and can be pierced through with enough power, even if it causes a backlash if hit with similar strength.
Agreed , but a huge factor played a part in that ending result , which cannot be logically ignored.

Neji was caught off guard due to Naruto's sudden last minute increase of speed caused from a large increase of chakra , this led to Neji starting rotation late , resulting in him not building up enough momentum to fully stabilize a full spinning dome , which when ran into by Naruto's Kurama Chakra , the repeling force back-fired , resulting in both getting repeled.

A full spinning Kaiten would repel Naruto without backlash.
 
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Agreed , but a huge factor played a part in that ending result , which cannot be logically ignored.

Neji was caught off guard due to Naruto's sudden last minute increase of speed caused from a large increase of chakra , this led to Neji starting rotation late , resulting in him not building up enough momentum to fully stabilize a full spinning dome , which when ran into by Naruto's Kurama Chakra , the repeling force back-fired , resulting in both getting repeled.

A full spinning Kaiten would repel Naruto without backlash.
Well, that is arguable since Naruto did still come out on top on that clash, giving him enough time to hide underground and end the fight, but that's not the point.

A Kaiten can be pierced, and I think a Rasenshuriken could do the job, if not thrown, then slammed into.
 

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Well, that is arguable since Naruto did still come out on top on that clash, giving him enough time to hide underground and end the fight, but that's not the point.
Naruto coming out on top makes sense , since KM Naruto is much more durable than Neji who's defense backfired while Naruto still had his defense until it was blown away by Kaiten , not to mention the healing factor along with natural durability , its isn't argueable IMO.

A Kaiten can be pierced, and I think a Rasenshuriken could do the job, if not thrown, then slammed into.
FRS would get repelled and explode on impact if slammed into Kaiten by the user , which would likely kill both , if this is Base Naruto when he just learned it.

A larger Rotation like Hiashi's would re-direct and repel the FRS along with its explosion , and would not get consumed by the blast due to its size , leaving Naruto to collect the left-over energy if he slammed into it himself.
 
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