Heroine Hated? Try Making her Prettier!

[Chie]

For example I'm still waiting for Lady Bayakugan to share that 16 hour official video of Kishi's meeting with his editor over the manga where they decided the whole concept and story line.



And I am suppose to accept your statement as a fact because? I asked for an authentic source which certainly aren't you.

They're referring to this interview:

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But some of what they're saying is greatly exaggerated. He didn't call Kishimoto an idiot or anything like that, nor was their relationship hostile. Lol

 

[aimop95]

No to have more fights than she did with Sasori. Also knowing her background more. Giving her a character development arc etc.

You must be very shallow minded if you think she would need to beat those people to be a better character.

You realize that a lot of "character" development we see in Naruto is through big fights right? Hell, even Sakura's ONLY showcase was a fight.

Kishimoto builds character through fights, that's his formula. And it doesn't work well with underpowered heroines.

Honestly, unless we saw Sakura getting her own fights against noted villains, like the 7 swordsmen of the mist or some famous Edo Tensi Kage, no body would care how Sakura punched a fodder solider even if the punch created a black-hole through that fodder. She has to punch a villain Kishi hypes or something.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

You realize that a lot of "character" development we see in Naruto is through big fights right? Hell, even Sakura's ONLY showcase was a fight.

Kishimoto builds character through fights, that's his formula. And it doesn't work well with underpowered heroines.

Honestly, unless we saw Sakura getting her own fights against noted villains, like the 7 swordsmen of the mist or some famous Edo Tensi Kage, no body would care how Sakura punched a fodder solider even if the punch created a black-hole through that fodder. She has to punch a villain Kishi hypes or something.

And where did I say she should not have big fights?

 

[MAN OF SIN]

And I am suppose to accept your statement as a fact because? I asked for an authentic source which certainly aren't you.

It's in the 2013 "Naruto Kizuna" Interview. The ramen part. Don't remember which interview mentioned the arguments.

 

[Conspirator.]

Here's an experiment for all of us: Reread the manga, but skip over all the Sakura panels. How much of the main plot do you think you'd miss? Lol

 

[aimop95]

And where did I say she should not have big fights?

Fair enough.

 

[aimop95]

Here's an experiment for all of us: Reread the manga, but skip over all the Sakura panels. How much of the main plot do you think you'd miss? Lol

The part where Naruto decides to REALLY bring back Sauske.

 

[BLAZE]

Here's an experiment for all of us: Reread the manga, but skip over all the Sakura panels. How much of the main plot do you think you'd miss? Lol

Think about dat urself Lol

 

[villain55]

Whom you are talking about?



Send me minutes to the meeting you attended with Kishi to all this.

It's so lovely when people post stuff without any authenticated source.

Seriously - so much anger over manga treatment of Naruto females when I can't to see that many impressive females in most other shonnes either. Some have better fan service though with females having big boobs and revealing outfits and fight in a style to augment on those. They still get save by lead MCs sooner or later and start to fall behind as the series gets longer.

Well I can't send you the link because I am on my phone. But Kishi said he would have multi hour debates throughout the 15+ years making the story with his editors. So CC is correct about that. Trying using the search bar the interview was posted multiple time, the interview took place after a day the last chapters were release

 

[Gagster]

No to have more fights than she did with Sasori. Also knowing her background more. Giving her a character development arc etc.

You must be very shallow minded if you think she would need to beat those people to be a better character.

So just having more fights would make her a better character in your eyes? And why would Kishi give her an entire arc when she wasn't popular? Does that make any sense?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Fair enough.

You did make a good statement though. I thoroughly agree with it. Its just you were agreeing more with my points than disagreeing with it.

 

[Brünhild]

- Kishi realizes that Sakura is not popular among the readers.
- instead of giving Sakura more attention and writing some more nice things related to her in order to make her character more likable, he tries to draw her more pretty.
- he fails
- seeing that Hinata's popularity was increasing despite her being a side character, he starts to think in changing the main heroine instead of do justice to Sakura, because is more easy this way

Dat logic. I feel bad reading this as Sakura fan. Seriously, Kishi should stop giving interviews.

 

[SkillMillTill]

- Kishi realizes that Sakura is not popular among the readers.
- instead of giving Sakura more attention and writing some more nice things related to her in order to make her character more likable, he tries to draw her more pretty.
- he fails
- seeing that Hinata's popularity was increasing despite her being a side character, he starts to think in changing the main heroine instead of do justice to Sakura, because is more easy this way

Dat logic. I feel bad reading this as Sakura fan. Seriously, Kishi should stop giving interviews.

Is it bad that he thought of switching his heroine? A thought!!! That's all and it makes sense to think that. I really don't see why so many people are so butthurt.

 

[SkillMillTill]

Well I can't send you the link because I am on my phone. But Kishi said he would have multi hour debates throughout the 15+ years making the story with his editors. So CC is correct about that. Trying using the search bar the interview was posted multiple time, the interview took place after a day the last chapters were release

Yes shut her down

 

[BLAZE]

Yes shut her down

lel

 

[Brünhild]

Is it bad that he thought of switching his heroine? A thought!!! That's all and it makes sense to think that. I really don't see why so many people are so butthurt.

It's not butthurt, man. I was just complaining about Kishi's neglect and laziness. Instead of doing something nice with Sakura, as showing her parents, giving her a background and an arc to develop her properly, he neglected her because of her low popularity, which led Sakura to be even more hated. If he had spent more time writing her properly, she wouldn't be hated that much, but he just tried to draw her more pretty.

 

[Avani]

Well I can't send you the link because I am on my phone. But Kishi said he would have multi hour debates throughout the 15+ years making the story with his editors. So CC is correct about that.

And what does that even mean? How much detailed and authentic is your link? Seriously we are talking about an actual source so that I can find out exactly what was said and the context.

Wouldn't you want to understand the context better if you ever write a story which is then asked to be made for at least a 5 year long serialization and then which keeps going for 15 years?

A lot of changes are made on the story board and brain storming to reach from point A to B which is certainly not a straight line. How many panels would be there? How much content has to be fit it and how much of story and hints to be dropped or not|? What to cover in this chapter and how to go about it next...let alone drawing the correct expressions images and then fitting them and what not..and it's been done on weekly basis for 15 years.

There have been so many interviews and some fake and some real which only made ones thing clear I am not accepting random claims. Especially seeing how much personal interpretation is added when it comes to hearsay rather than actual words.

I read in an earlier interview that Kishi had drawn only Itachi and no Sasuke when he presented the original concept to WSJ. But he was told to introduce a character and introduce a rival for Naruto and add more stuff for a longer story and a chance to expand later on. It doesn't look like that it was editors only ideas, just them making more suggestions about what they wanted from him.

Either way let, accept your version- that means the whole editorial group is responsible for all the mess up where Kishi was just drawing the script handed to him with little contribution. Then I guess it doesn't matter if Kishi was good or bad in writing females or anything at all for that matter ....let's find the names of his editors who made the story and lynch them. ^_^

It's funny that in an attempt to flame the writer you are actually relieving him of his responsibilities as a writer.

 

[SkillMillTill]

It's not butthurt, man. I was just complaining about Kishi's neglect and laziness. Instead of doing something nice with Sakura, as showing her parents, giving her a background and an arc to develop her properly, he neglected her because of her low popularity, which led Sakura to be even more hated. If he had spent more time writing her properly, she wouldn't be hated that much, but he just tried to draw her more pretty.

I love how you call him lazy(sarcasm). Im pretty sure he had better things to worry about than craft a regular girl's story. But I feel you though

 

[villain55]

And how much detailed and authentic is your link? Seriously we are talking about an actual source so that I can find out exactly what was said and the context.

Wouldn't you want to understand the context better if you ever write a story which is then asked to be made for at least a 5 year long serialization and then which keeps going for 15 years?

A lot of changes are made on the story board and brain storming to reach from point A to B which is certainly not a straight line. How many panels would be there. How much content has to be fit it and how much of story and hints to be dropped or not. What to cover in this chapter and how to go about it next...let alone drawing the correct expressions images and then fitting them and what not..and it's been done on weekly basis for 15 years.

There have been so many interviews and some fake and some real which only made ones thing clear I am not accepting random claims. Especially seeing how much personal interpretation is added when it comes to hearsay rather than actual words.

Someone posted a thread to the interview above ^^ the interview is legit. Take it as you will, but Kishi as stated in the interview would have many arguments with his editors about small things and big things. That's all to it nothing more nothing less. Just making it clear that CC was correct about the multi hour debate part.

 

[Avani]

Someone posted a thread to the interview above ^^ the interview is legit. Take it as you will, but Kishi as stated in the interview would have many arguments with his editors about small things and big things. That's all to it nothing more nothing less. Just making it clear that CC was correct about the multi hour debate part.

And? How does it mean that his deduction from the sentence and subsequent statement is correct which I questioned? Why are you making out of context post? Exaggerated self serving deductions which literally serve no constructive purpose still remain the exaggerated self serving deductions.

What about the other question I raised? Even if interview is legit does it make LB's personal opinion about what happened in it and how it went valid automatically?

What about this part:

Either way let, accept your version- that means the whole editorial group is responsible for all the mess up where Kishi was just drawing the script handed to him with little contribution. Then I guess it doesn't matter if Kishi was good or bad in writing females or anything at all for that matter ....let's find the names of his editors who made the story and lynch them. ^_^

It's funny that in an attempt to flame the writer you are actually relieving him of his responsibilities as a writer.

^^

You guys keep repeating same thing over and over and back each other up in a circle, rejecting any other direction or view. You are not reaching anywhere that way. You will just tire yourself out in the loop and then disappear.

Ever thought of breaking this Izanami you have put yourself in with all the hatred for the writer and characters yet standing in the same cave repeating the same scenario?

Yes shut her down

How is my post ignorant? Your insulting members on the base reported.
P.s. I'll just keep on making alternate accounts. If I'm going to make scary NaruSaku fans let me!

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