Kakashi outsmarts so bad. Maybe if they start 100 metres distance, then Sasuke would summon an army of snakes and finish him with Chidori Senbon or Kirin. But if they even come close to a short range fight, Sasuke is dead, being Kakashi way better in taijutsu. And anyway, I could even figure Sasuke arrogantly grabbing Kakashi and then being shocked by the Lightining Clone
Hebi Sasuke vs. War Arc Kakashi
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Lelelelel how about no? Being better in Taijutsu is irrelevant when Sasuke is much stronger than him, and faster than him, with better reflexes. Not to mention Sasuke fights in close combat using a sword, not his fists. Lightning clone does nothing of note, he'd just defuse the lightning that shocks him with his own just like he did against B.
and sasuke outclasses him in Kenjutsu so :|
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Kakashi's strenght according to databook was 3.5 before the war arc, similar to early part 2 Naruto's. That Naruto could barely penetrate a tree with enhanced kunai meanwhile war arc Kakashi's bare kunai could pierce thru a hand and penetrate rock . Yet Kakashi's strenght apparently has never increased 
Not saying that Kakashi wins tho.
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Not saying that Kakashi wins tho.
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Them both having 3.5s doesn't make them dead equal. All it means is that Kakashi is strong enough to be a bit better than Naruto, but not enough to be a 4. :lolKakashi's strenght according to databook was 3.5 before the war arc, similar to early part 2 Naruto's. That Naruto could barely penetrate a tree with enhanced kunai meanwhile war arc Kakashi's bare kunai could pierce thru a hand and penetrate rock . Yet Kakashi's strenght apparently has never increased
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Not saying that Kakashi wins tho.
Kakashi wins.
He's more experienced and intelligent. War Arc Kakashi's reserves grew exponentially, thanks to the extra experience and pushing himself hard to use MS as much as he did. It's not necessary though, since stats put Kakashi at 34.5 at the start of Shippuden, and Hebi Sasuke 31.5, giving Kakashi a considerable edge in taijutsu, intelligence and hand seals, equal footing in speed, ninjutsu, strength and genjutsu, and Sasuke a slight edge in stamina.
War Arc Kakashi just seems stronger and more lasting, so this match up isn't really fair.
@Unorthodox Kakashi has up to A-Rank Suitons, so no, not really fodder level at all.
He's more experienced and intelligent. War Arc Kakashi's reserves grew exponentially, thanks to the extra experience and pushing himself hard to use MS as much as he did. It's not necessary though, since stats put Kakashi at 34.5 at the start of Shippuden, and Hebi Sasuke 31.5, giving Kakashi a considerable edge in taijutsu, intelligence and hand seals, equal footing in speed, ninjutsu, strength and genjutsu, and Sasuke a slight edge in stamina.
War Arc Kakashi just seems stronger and more lasting, so this match up isn't really fair.
@Unorthodox Kakashi has up to A-Rank Suitons, so no, not really fodder level at all.
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-Intelligence and experience aren't relevant. Hope I don't need to explain why.
-Those stats rank Base Sasuke, not Sharingan, CS or CS2 Sasuke. Taijutsu is irrelevant when Sasuke uses a sword. Sasuke is far stronger, far faster and his Ninjutsu is far stronger.
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It is when you get outlasted by a man with 2.5/5 in stamina, who was already on the verge of death due to terminal sickness, and also spamming MS techniques without the intent to ever kill Sasuke. That's a major issue. Kakashi received buffs in pretty much every category. Being strong and fast enough to completely overpower someone holding you down, and carrying that person with you in order to avoid Zabuza's huge blade from point blank [
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] should easily place him above base Hebi Sasuke, since DB3 base Gai>base Sasuke in speed. Then his feats displayed against Obito in the Kamui dimension as well. A heavily impaired Itachi was avoiding nearly everything Hebi Sasuke was dishing out. War-arc Kakashi will do the same in an even easier fashion, especially seeing how he avoided Kakuzu's AoE Atsugai from point blank range in an inferior form to his war-arc version. Kakashi easily has the upper hand over base Hebi Sasuke in CQC. Whenever CM comes into play, so does Kakashis feints.
Databook stars are about how well rounded they are in their base selves. It doesn't talk about full power.
Asuma and Kisame both have 32.5 , now guess who's stronger? The databook example for Sasuke talks about how well rounded he's without his sharingan.
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With Kamui Restricted, Kakashi will be constantly on the move trying to deal with things, like the Windmill Shurikens And Manda, in an effective manner. Sasuke is easily faster than him, and a great deal more proficient with the Sharingan.
Sasuke can win this long range, or short range. None of the Suitons he can use without a Source will put out the Katon Dragons, so they will inevitably be used, and can not be stopped by his inferior Katons. His clone feints will not work when, regardless if he knows it's a clone, he can still see the chakra.
In CS2, Sasuke outclasses Kakashi in every stat, and will destroy him with his overwhelming mobility, durability, and strength. Since he won't be wasting a considerable amount of chakra evading Amaterasu, he won't be outlasted.
In S1, this is a mid diff fight ending in a Chidori Blade decimating Kakashi's Kunai, and cutting him up.
In S2, Sasuke will have to set up prep for Kirin, having used more chakra to supplement Manda's absence.
With Kamui Restricted, Kakashi will be constantly on the move trying to deal with things, like the Windmill Shurikens And Manda, in an effective manner. Sasuke is easily faster than him, and a great deal more proficient with the Sharingan.
Sasuke can win this long range, or short range. None of the Suitons he can use without a Source will put out the Katon Dragons, so they will inevitably be used, and can not be stopped by his inferior Katons. His clone feints will not work when, regardless if he knows it's a clone, he can still see the chakra.
In CS2, Sasuke outclasses Kakashi in every stat, and will destroy him with his overwhelming mobility, durability, and strength. Since he won't be wasting a considerable amount of chakra evading Amaterasu, he won't be outlasted.
In S1, this is a mid diff fight ending in a Chidori Blade decimating Kakashi's Kunai, and cutting him up.
In S2, Sasuke will have to set up prep for Kirin, having used more chakra to supplement Manda's absence.
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Like I said, attrition and stamina is irrelevant unless Kakashi can actually last long enough to exploit the fact that he has more stamina than Sasuke, and he won't. Only reason Itachi can survive long enough to outlast is because he had MS to stop himself from actually being killed.
He didn't even dodge that blade, he got cut. All he did was prevent himself from being bisected like Zabuza planned, and Haku has no notable strength feat that'd make overpowering him a feat that'd put him above regular Sasuke let alone Sasuke w/ the Curse Seal. And no, he's never moved the same speed as Gated Gai. All they did was
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at their targets. So unless you think Kakashi w/o Shunshin can match Gai's top speed in the 6th Gate, Gai was moving nowhere near top speed. His feats against Obito don't even matter since Obito has no speed feat that makes him faster than Sasuke on his own, not to mention those feats had little to do with speed and more to do with his skill. Not to mention that Obito wasn't in top condition and wanted to let Kakashi win in the first place. Evading Atsugai isn't any kind of feat either when he is confirmed by the databook and by feats to be slower than Base Sasuke during that arc, let alone CS Sasuke, so unless you think someone slower than Sasuke is going to evade all of his attacks this point doesn't work either. All Itachi evaded anyway was Chidori after the Katon feint, and the Rigged Shuriken. So not sure how evading that means that Kakashi evades everything Sasuke has got. And that wasn't even close combat either.And no, he doesn't. Not even close. Sasuke is >=Kakashi in speed in base, Curse Mark is a large boost as shown during his battle against Naruto. A large large boost. CM2 is another large boost in power. Kakashi can try clone feints, but against someone who is easily faster than him and will expect his clone feints and has plenty of experience handling the clone game due to fighting Naruto on more than one occasion, it's safe to say that he gets murked.
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Underground trickery able to fool even the eyes of the Sharingan as Deidara already used that as a means to escape via distractions against the likes of Kakashi who wields the MS. If it was due to something, then it's definitely a distraction which he can make use of here via clones. If Sasuke uses his curse mark state to fly above, Kakashi only needs to make use of the environment properly planning his own attacks and even with Hiding like a mole, this is very possible making the above style useless but damaging to Sasuke as the curse mark will be in use for longer. Not to mention Kirin isn't going to be a factor seeing the number of clones that can be spread out. Kakashi at the very beginning of part 1 with his low stamina could already create multiple shadow clone that take a half let alone part 2 Kakashi that can use water clones that take just 10%..Seeing as his lighting techniques are useless, he doesn't need to waste a huge amount of chakra.
Taijustu wise, Kakashi trumps Sasuke seeing as he could at least maneuver some or at least Jin alongside Gai. Plus the fact that he has clones that are more than able to react to skilled users in the act
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and even react to close ranged Ninjutsu from the real himself with high leveled water style techniques
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(high level as the same technique was mentioned here to be of sort when used by Tobirama
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with his clone. Sasuke would have a hand full with several clones in the battlefield being able to use such techniques and even being able to match him to an extent in a CQC. Not one but several plus the real. Then we have the fact that Kakashi can have his clones below and above which of course would be distracting, if one uses a water style technique on Sasuke and he attempts to evade, the other clone can time him correctly and fire another at him before he lands. Then Kakashi has this with a wide AOE
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..Enough for Sasuke and the fact that he can be caught slipping below as well. Sasuke's only mean is from above but is he dropping something none can evade? No. Is it Kirin which requires prep such as fireballs which of course can leave him vulnerable when he attempts to shoot some above? No. What of the fact that he holds the CM2 while flying? and what of the fact that hiding like a mole can just make above attacks useless. Several clones can make Kirin useless since they all need to spread out and hide thanks to the environment and HLM which would leave Sasuke confused on who the real is let alone the position.I think Kakashi wins.
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Part 1 Kakashi made a bunch of clones that were fodder and couldn't fight as a means to scare off Gato's thugs. If he splits his chakra like that against Sasuke then the latter wouldn't even need Ninjutsu to take them apart, only his sword and his Sharingan. Even then, Kirin obliterated a Mountain. The AoE is something Kakashi isn't going to evade by making a bunch of clones and hoping that Sasukee hits the wrong one. But it's not like Kirin is needed here anyway. Underground attacks are nice and all, but if he couldn't get 30% Itachi with that then he's not getting Sasuke.
Yes, he beats Sasuke (base Sasuke, not CM2) with Taijutsu, but I'm not sure why everyone keeps bringing this up when Sasuke rarely fights using pure Taijutsu, he uses Kenjutsu with some Taijutsu thrown into the mix, and that's something Kakashi isn't beating Sasuke at when he only has Kunai nor will he beat Sasuke w/ his sword without using any kind of weapons of his own.
-He has no good feats against the Jins. He charged them, his attack was tanked, then it was evaded and he was slapped back. Not a feat.
-If the real Kakashi can't match Sasuke in CQC, his clones aren't going to do so either, nor will he be even using enough clones to turn the tide of this battle.
-Why would Sasuke be flying and attacking from above? The only time flight will be useful is for dodging any follow up attacks from any clones Kakashi decides to make.
And why you are talking about Kakashi making several clones being able to use Ninjutsu like that? Unless he makes Shadow clones that isn't happening, and even then, at best he'd be using 3 or 4, and even that's a stretch considering he stated he was worried about his chakra reserves when he was about to make a shadow clone to use Raiden on the V2 Jinchuuriki.
Maybe if this were 3-Tomoe Sasuke. He stands a chance against CM1 Sasuke (but Sasuke is far more likely to win), definitely loses to CM2.