Hebi Sasuke vs. War Arc Kakashi

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Intel: Full

Location: Sasuke vs. Deidara

Restrictions: Kamui.

Distance: 10m


S2: Restrict summons.

Who wins?
 

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S1- Manda solos.
S2- Sasuke wins. They're more or less equal in speed and reactions. In the end it'll come down to close combat where Sasuke has longer range with Chidori Sharp Spear. For Kakashi it will be like trying to fight with a knife against a guy with a sword.
 

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Sasuke wins both scenarios.

Manda alone makes S1 a complete stomp in Sasuke's favor. Sasuke is much faster than Kakashi and their physical strength is pretty much on par with one another. Sasuke's speed and Chidori variants give him the edge when it comes to close combat.
 
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I forgot that Manda isn't weak to 3T Genjutsu. ....

Oh wait .... He is.
 

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Kakashi eventually outlasts him. Beans, lmao @ Manda solo'ing Kakashi, smh.
 

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-Raiton gets cancelled out
-Summons are fodder, and Sasuke can't properly control Manda. Sharingan genjutsu get's broken, then Manda turns on Sasuke for attempting to control him.
-Kakashi is more tactical
-Kakashi is more battle intelligent
-Kakashi is more versatile
-Kakashi has more stamina
-Kakashi should definitely be more proficient in CQC

Kakashi outlasts him, just as sick Itachi did.
 
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Sasuke wins with CM2 enhancement making him better at everything.
Better:
-Eye sight
-Speed
-Strength
-Durability
-Senjutsu chakra
-Extra limbs which can utilise snakes
-Sasuke has a sword
-Kirin potential with Katon Dragons if Kakashi camps
 

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Kakashi has 3T Genjutsu and that literally negs Manda.

Oh, then yeah, Manda is a non factor. Doesn't mean Sasuke loses though.

-Raiton gets cancelled out
-Summons are fodder, and Sasuke can't properly control Manda. Sharingan genjutsu get's broken, then Manda turns on Sasuke for attempting to control him.
-Kakashi is more tactical
-Kakashi is more battle intelligent
-Kakashi is more versatile
-Kakashi has more stamina
-Kakashi should definitely be more proficient in CQC

Kakashi outlasts him, just as sick Itachi did.

-Sasuke's Raiton is stronger due to Curse Mark, so it can't get cancelled out.
-Kakashi being more tactical, battle intelligent, and versatile isn't going to help him win this match.
-Kakashi having more stamina won't let him win this match either when it won't come down to attrition. Itachi was only able to outlast because he was strong enough to prevent himself from being killed.
-Why should be more proficient in CQC? If it were just hand to hand then yeah, I'd agree, but Sasuke can already physically match him in Base, let alone CS1, let alone CS2. Then we have the fact that Kakashi has Kunai while Sasuke has a sword on top of his vast physical superiority.
 

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Restrict curse mark to make it more interesting....
 

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Oh, then yeah, Manda is a non factor. Doesn't mean Sasuke loses though.



-Sasuke's Raiton is stronger due to Curse Mark, so it can't get cancelled out.
-Kakashi being more tactical, battle intelligent, and versatile isn't going to help him win this match.
-Kakashi having more stamina won't let him win this match either when it won't come down to attrition. Itachi was only able to outlast because he was strong enough to prevent himself from being killed.
-Why should be more proficient in CQC? If it were just hand to hand then yeah, I'd agree, but Sasuke can already physically match him in Base, let alone CS1, let alone CS2. Then we have the fact that Kakashi has Kunai while Sasuke has a sword on top of his vast physical superiority.

Which he can't hold for very long periods of time, something that Kakashi can easily exploit. With the exception of Kirin, Kakashi can prevent himself from dying from all of Sasuke's tactics with practically the same means a sick and near blind Itachi did. So I don't see how he doesn't outlast here. There is no way base Hebi Sasuke is matching Kakashi in anything given his war-arc buffs. Especially when he couldn't do so in front of a heavily impaired Itachi, with the intentions of allowing Sasuke to win the entire time. He'd have to rely on the CM in order to contest with Kakashi, which again, can't be relied on too heavily.
 

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I think Raiton users can cancel out ration used against them. Bottom right
 

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I think Raiton users can cancel out ration used against them. Bottom right

Sasuke only used his own Raiton to defuse the Raiton Katana that B stabbed him with. Completely different from matching or overpowering an offensive attack with the power of Chidori or Raikiri.

Which he can't hold for very long periods of time, something that Kakashi can easily exploit. With the exception of Kirin, Kakashi can prevent himself from dying from all of Sasuke's tactics with practically the same means a sick and near blind Itachi did. So I don't see how he doesn't outlast here. There is no way base Hebi Sasuke is matching Kakashi in anything given his war-arc buffs. Especially when he couldn't do so in front of a heavily impaired Itachi, with the intentions of allowing Sasuke to win the entire time. He'd have to rely on the CM in order to contest with Kakashi, which again, can't be relied on too heavily.

Cursed Mark stamina isn't even close to a major issue for Part 2 Sasuke. PTS Sasuke is one who made it clear that he couldn't hold the 2nd level up for too long. Sasuke spent the vast majority of his fight against Deidara using the Cursed Seal level 2 anyway. Kakashi goes down long before Sasuke reaches his limit.

His War Arc buffs are mainly his stamina and his proficiency with Kamui. He's shown no speed or strength increase (no strength increase was shown at all if I'm remembering correctly) that'd make Base Sasuke unable to contest him in close combat. Mentioning Itachi is pointless since Itachi ended up using MS to fight against Sasuke, something that Kakashi doesn't have nor does he possess anything powerful enough to make up for his lack of said techniques. Not counting anything that happened in Genjutsu, the only things that occurred between Itachi and Sasuke were:

-Itachi makes handsign.
-Sasuke counters with Rigged Shuriken.
-Due to his sickness and blindness Itachi gets tagged.
-Sasuke attacks with Katon.
-Itachi dodges.
-Sasuke uses Chidori.
-Itachi dodges again.
-They both use Katon.
-Itachi is about to be roasted before he uses MS.

Kakashi should be able to counter the Rigged Shuriken and Katon with his own Suiton, but if it ever becomes close combat he gets murked.
 

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Sasuke wins S1

Kakashi wins S2
 

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Kakashi eventually outlasts him. Beans, lmao @ Manda solo'ing Kakashi, smh.

Sasuke has higher chakra levels and stamina than Kakashi how does he get outlasted exactly?

-Raiton gets cancelled out

Vice versa

Summons are fodder, and Sasuke can't properly control Manda. Sharingan genjutsu get's broken, then Manda turns on Sasuke for attempting to control him.

Summonings are not fodder giant fodder snake causes Kakashi some problems especially when he's dealing with Sasuke head on. Or how about Sasuke tells Manda he has sacrifices for him when the fight is over thus making him want to kill Kakashi.


Kakashi is more tactical
-Kakashi is more battle intelligent

Irrelevant.

Kakashi is more versatile

How?

Sasuke - Ration, Shuriken jutsu, Katon, Genjutsu, Kenjutsu, Curse Mark, Summonings, Kirin,

Kakashi - Ration, Clones, Summonings, Weak Genjutsu, Water style (Fodder level) Doton,

Sasuke is clearly more has more jutsu and techniques

Kakashi has more stamina

Not supported by a single manga fact.

Kakashi should definitely be more proficient in CQC

Nope, Sasuke has snake to aid him in CQC that gives him the edge outside of tools and Ration their taijutsu jutsu is roughly equal or so close to where neither one would have an game changing edge.

Kakashi outlasts him, just as sick Itachi did.

Not happening Because if Sasuke would use Kirin on Kakashi that would be it simple as that.

Mofos saying Kakashi outlasts him L

Right

Sasuke wins low-med diff S1

Wins med diff max scene 2
 
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