Hebi Sasuke VS Hidan [Kenjutsu ONLY]

[Zexion~]

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the only time Asuma used fuuton enhanced blade it sliced hidan's rod in half

It was a fodder sword lol rod was never cut in half, and he used them

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Asuma just used them to slice the other sword in two (which needs fuuton) and it did nothing to the scythe, which was my main point as a normal sword can pierce Hidan but its not butchering him through his weapons.

Hidan has literally never done a thing in this Manga to let you or anyone else logically argue his victory in this match. Nothing at all. His best feats are overwhelming Asuma and being stalemated by Kakashi.

Sasuke destroys him with or without a blitz.

And idk who you are talking about with the speed thing, but the DB puts Hidan an entire point below Kakashi while Sasuke has shown to be comfortably above Kakashi and Hidan so either way you are wrong.

I'm not saying Hidan's as fast as Sasuke I'm saying its stated Sasuke is, and as you said he stalemated Kakashi with 3T who is > Base Sasuke speed lol. Not to mention Asuma is also supposed to be equal to Sasuke and Kakashi in speed, and more skilled with Kunai than Kakashi is.

Sasuke's Kenjutsu was shown to favor piercing (against Itachi), he blitzed Tobi in a sweeping manor once lol. So yeah, feats in the manga add up to Hidan eventually overwhelming Sasuke, if not catching him off guard with immortality ESPECIALLY if this doesn't include Shunshin, shouldn't even be a contest at that point.

 

[BLAZE]

It was a fodder sword lol rod was never cut in half, and he used them

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Asuma just used them to slice the other sword in two (which needs fuuton) and it did nothing to the scythe, which was my main point as a normal sword can pierce Hidan but its not butchering him through his weapons.

Okay the only time fuuton was used it sliced whatever hidan was using.@bold becoz it never hit the scythe

raiton blade will cut through his weapon either it be scythe;rod or fodder sword

 

[ToshiZO]

Hidan wins, as long as his immortality is intact this is not debateable he overwhelms Sasuke eventually, Sasuke gets tired out from extended sharingan usage, some cuts here and there are not slowing Hidan down one bit. Heck if he so chooses to he can eat an attack to land a fatal blow on Sasuke. Faster or not he's not dismembering Hidan in a straight up CQC where Asuma with help (and better penetrative power than Sasuke) and Kakashi couldn't even touch him.

 

[KidGamer65]

It was a fodder sword lol rod was never cut in half, and he used them

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Asuma just used them to slice the other sword in two (which needs fuuton) and it did nothing to the scythe, which was my main point as a normal sword can pierce Hidan but its not butchering him through his weapons.



I'm not saying Hidan's as fast as Sasuke I'm saying its stated Sasuke is, and as you said he stalemated Kakashi with 3T who is > Base Sasuke speed lol. Not to mention Asuma is also supposed to be equal to Sasuke and Kakashi in speed, and more skilled with Kunai than Kakashi is.

Sasuke's Kenjutsu was shown to favor piercing (against Itachi), he blitzed Tobi in a sweeping manor once lol. So yeah, feats in the manga add up to Hidan eventually overwhelming Sasuke, if not catching him off guard with immortality ESPECIALLY if this doesn't include Shunshin, shouldn't even be a contest at that point.

No, Sasuke isn't stated to be slower or on par with Kakashi. Sasuke is far above Kakashi. Base Sasuke is irrelevant as this is 3-Tomoe Sasuke vs. Hidan. The entire first paragraph doesn't matter just because you are assuming two things:

1. That this is Base Sasuke.
2. That equal DB stat means equal score even though I've told you dozens of times this isn't true.

Asuma is not equal to Sasuke in any form of speed regardless of the latter using Sharingan or not.

The bold doesn't even make sense. Sasuke is a master swordsman. To argue that since he pierces against regular foes thus he does the same against Hidan instead of trying to cut even though cutting is the more used maneuver in Kenjutsu is you blatantly ignoring the Manga to hype up your favs.

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Literally over a dozen scans of him using his sword to cut and not pierce. :lol

Feats add up to Sasuke destroying him with moderate effort whether or not he uses Shunshin. He's far faster than him, Hidan can only stalemate Kakashi w/ a Kunai, who is nowhere near as powerful in CQC as Sasuke with a sword and he's more skilled in this area. This is not a match. Even his immortality is irrelevant since Sasuke can sever his limbs.

Sasuke>>Asuma in CQC.
Sasuke>>Kakashi in CQC.

Nobody should bother mentioning those two again. Hidan doesn't even have his ritual. Arguing he wins is borderline fanboyism. He only defeated Asuma in the first place because of said ritual. He managed to land a single cut on his cheek.


But lmao @ a swordsman pierces more with his sword than he cuts despite a sword being made specifically for cutting. :lol Come on fam. Come on.

 

[New Dawn]

No, Sasuke isn't stated to be slower or on par with Kakashi. Sasuke is far above Kakashi. Base Sasuke is irrelevant as this is 3-Tomoe Sasuke vs. Hidan. The entire first paragraph doesn't matter just because you are assuming two things:

1. That this is Base Sasuke.
2. That equal DB stat means equal score even though I've told you dozens of times this isn't true.

Asuma is not equal to Sasuke in any form of speed regardless of the latter using Sharingan or not.

The bold doesn't even make sense. Sasuke is a master swordsman. To argue that since he pierces against regular foes thus he does the same against Hidan instead of trying to cut even though cutting is the more used maneuver in Kenjutsu is you blatantly ignoring the Manga to hype up your favs.

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Literally over a dozen scans of him using his sword to cut and not pierce. :lol

Feats add up to Sasuke destroying him with moderate effort whether or not he uses Shunshin. He's far faster than him, Hidan can only stalemate Kakashi w/ a Kunai, who is nowhere near as powerful in CQC as Sasuke with a sword and he's more skilled in this area. This is not a match. Even his immortality is irrelevant since Sasuke can sever his limbs.

Sasuke>>Asuma in CQC.
Sasuke>>Kakashi in CQC.

Nobody should bother mentioning those two again. Hidan doesn't even have his ritual. Arguing he wins is borderline fanboyism. He only defeated Asuma in the first place because of said ritual. He managed to land a single cut on his cheek.


But lmao @ a swordsman pierces more with his sword than he cuts despite a sword being made specifically for cutting. :lol Come on fam. Come on.

Who gives you the right to refer to others as fans? You're bias as shit too so don't go around behaving "objective". Itachi also stalemated Sauce with his Kunai too. Sword or not, it won't change the fact that Hidan is physically stronger and as fast as Sasuke.

 

[BLAZE]

Who gives you the right to refer to others as fans? You're bias as shit too so don't go around behaving "objective". Itachi also stalemated Sauce with his Kunai too. Sword or not, it won't change the fact that Hidan is physically stronger and as fast as Sasuke.

he fended off killerbee too who will turn Hidan into kebab using only kenjutsu

Hidan is the most overwanked char and weakest among Aktsuki.Most one dimensional fighting style

didn't manage to hit kakashi despite trying to blindside him or attack him straightforward with scythe.He ain't doing shit against sasuke

 

[KidGamer65]

Who gives you the right to refer to others as fans? You're bias as shit too so don't go around behaving "objective". Itachi also stalemated Sauce with his Kunai too. Sword or not, it won't change the fact that Hidan is physically stronger and as fast as Sasuke.

This horse doo doo means literally nothing coming from you, one of the worst trolls on the entire site. Itachi is not Hidan nor did he stalemate Sasuke in CQC with a Kunai.

Hidan being physically stronger is irrelevant, and he's nowhere near as fast as Sasuke. Go fanboy/troll elsewhere. You can cry about me being bias all you want. At the end of the day the arguments speak for themselves.

 

[DrProof]

How do people even seriously argue for Hidan lol. I never understood that. Dude is legit a moron, and as Blaze stated one dimensional.

 

[New Dawn]

This horse doo doo means literally nothing coming from you, one of the worst trolls on the entire site. Itachi is not Hidan nor did he stalemate Sasuke in CQC with a Kunai.

Hidan being physically stronger is irrelevant, and he's nowhere near as fast as Sasuke. Go fanboy/troll elsewhere. You can cry about me being bias all you want. At the end of the day the arguments speak for themselves.

Naw. You just hate on Hidan because you get picked on by guys like him IRL so you put Hidan down in the interwebs.

 

[New Dawn]

he fended off killerbee too who will turn Hidan into kebab using only kenjutsu

Hidan is the most overwanked char and weakest among Aktsuki.Most one dimensional fighting style

didn't manage to hit kakashi despite trying to blindside him or attack him straightforward with scythe.He ain't doing shit against sasuke

Hidan is the most overwanked? Where did you get this from? He is the most hated character in NV and btw you might wana take a look at yourself before you say Hidan is "overwanked".

 

[New Dawn]

How do people even seriously argue for Hidan lol. I never understood that. Dude is legit a moron, and as Blaze stated one dimensional.

Because he is one of the coolest characters in NV by design. I believe Kishi said Hidan is his fav so there u have it. His behavior is what gets him shitted on by most of the weeb turds because he reminds them of their high school bullies.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naw. You just hate on Hidan because you get picked on by guys like him IRL so you put Hidan down in the interwebs.

Jesus Christ you weirdos read too deep into this shit sometimes. :lol I don't hate on any character in this or any other Manga.

 

[ToshiZO]

Sasuke being better than Kakashi in CQC is one thing, to say Sasuke will straight up without restraint dismember someone that Kakashi couldn't even land one blow on is just wank plain and simple.

A kunai can be seen as an advantage, Hidan's weapon on swings should give way to openings, instead of getting an opening Hidan was swinging that thing around matching the speed of Kakashi's blows

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either that or not even giving him an opening to properly counterattack to begin with. That kunai point was always weak to me especially since that is Kakashi's weapon of choice, it's not like if you gave him a large weapon he would do better, and it's not like it doesn't have it's advantages against a large weapon.

Someone that was calmly and confidently dodging shadow sewing while focusing on Asuma without even getting touched

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or not even giving way to a single opening against a CQC sharingan specialist, is apparently going to be getting cut in half in a straight up confrontation because Sasuke is God tier compared to Kakashi and Asuma backed by Shadow sewing.

You can say Sasuke will perform better and actually damage Hidan which the other two couldn't do, but to cut limbs off just like that before Hidan can do anything about it lmfao...

So we're left with Hidan who can shrug of any injuries that aren't dismembering, and can even choose to eat major attacks in order to land fatal ones (for example grab hold of Sasuke's hand when he tries to cut deep or pierce). His options are limitless as well as his stamina.

The only argument for Sasuke is....he is God tier compared to Kakashi in CQC so he will just hack Hidan's head off. Ok.

Also bringing up Hidan being one dimensional in a thread which pretty much only factors in that one dimension is just...lol.

All in all, I only see trash points.

 

[BLAZE]

Oh look guys hidan jumped inbetween the fight.He also stalmated kakashi who was using just a kunai while using his once or twice maybe thrice :lol

 

[ToshiZO]

^ Look at this guy, Hidan only has those "once or twice or maybe thrice" panels to begin with, what do you want me to do pull up panels that don't exist lmfao. If the author intended to show Hidan not be a match, it would be easy enough to do, plenty of time to showcase that. Not to mention I just explained how "just a kunai" is a lame argument but then get a one liner including that same nonsense the next post.

Irrelevant ass comment as always from you.

 

[BLAZE]

Look at this guy moaning on feats that are average at best hiding behind the bs Hidan only had limited panel time lmfao
Yeah author decided to show hidan was fodderised by shikamaru;was unable to pressure kakashi despite trying to blindside him or kakashi enhancing his weapons with raiton

yes author also wanted to show hidan is nowhere near sasuke in kenjutsu and yeah arguing he even gives sasuke a fight without his ritual is laughable.Hidan would always be the weakest memeber of Akatsuki :lol someone with a linear fighting style only relevant becoz of his ritual without that he ain't beating any decent char let alone sasuke

 

[ToshiZO]

Lame post. Idc what you think of the character, rant about it someplace else.

Raiton irrelevant, Asuma has better cutting properties couldn't do anything to his scythe.
Such a bum argument to begin with, mans bringing amount of panels like it means anything. So if someone has a single panel of overpowering or outspeeding a character its only 1 panel, thus it doesn't mean anything, give the character another chance please Kishi. Sometype of mental gymnastics going on here.

 

[BLAZE]

asuma never used fuuton enhaced weapon against scythe :lol

 

[ToshiZO]

Asuma had hien activated at the start of the fight, Hidan knew this, so he fought accordingly. And the scythe did make contact with Asuma's blades, nothing happened, granted it wasn't an attack but a block.

Despite having hien, Asuma himself deemed CQC as worthless, his hien could easily cut Hidan's cable but Asuma immediately felt an AOE attack was necessary because he couldn't do anything.

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Btw this was with Shikamaru's shadow possession chasing Hidan around.

So Asuma with hien intact felt it was completely worthless to even engage in pinpoint attacks against Hidan while Hidan was being pressured from Shadow sewing.

Now if you or any one else in this thread truly believes that Sasuke >> Asuma with hien intact + Shikamaru as backup with shadow sewing. Then it's not even worth debating further, there'd be no point.

 

[DiamondxDust]

Obviously Sasuke. Without his Blood curse, Hidan can't win even if Sasuke can only use Kenjutsu. Sasuke would easily outspeed and dodge Hidan's scythe with sharingan precog, then cut his head off. A better matchup would have been kenjutsu limited Sasuke vs. Unrestricted Hidan. I think Sasuke would win that one too for the same reasons, but that's debatable. He just wouldn't get hit in a 1v1 situation against Hidan.