No, Nagato can't break Tsukuyomi. With due respect to Nagato's power, one objective person should acknowledge his weakness. Him being able to avoid Genjutsu is one thing, but breaking another. I believe that Nagato could free himself from most Genjutsu even of Itachi's, but Tsukuyomi is too much for him. All proves are against him.
I still think that Nagato would win though. If nothing else helps, Chibaku Tensei will end it. But I'm free to believe that Itachi could force Nagato to look into his eyes before.
Just speculation in both our parts concerning breaking ct. When they broke it, debris already covered the orb. I believe the durability of the jutsu lies within the covering rocks and debri, not necessarily the orb. Just speculation.
Nope itachi doesn't have perfect susanoo, and it's irrelevant whether nagato senses susanoo as he would only sense the chakra that is susanoo and will not notice/sense totsuka as he has his eyes close. Totsuka has shown to be quite lengthy, so itachi can utilize nagato's sensing to his advantage, eluding him to thinking he is at a safe range.
Nagato wins, but for other reasons. Using ct off the bat would only drain his chakra and leave him vulnerable to attacks, considering that you argue closing his eyes fighting itachi is a good strategy.
Oh god the overrated tsukuyomi once again. Kishimoto is never portraying a high level opponent like Nagato losing to this jutsu. It's not for a reason he put 3high lvl opponents(including Itachi) to defeat a fake one
Jutsus don't necessarily intertwine with characters and their portrayal. The strongest ninjas utilize simple jutsus in order to win a fight.
Tsukyomi overrated? Lol The jutsu one-shots anyone bar uchiha blood. It's just that ninjas now have the means to avoid it altogether.
If you are arguing whether nagato breaks tsukyomi it's no, whether he can follow the careful precautions in avoiding it while fighting someone like itachi...Debatable.
Just speculation in both our parts concerning breaking ct. When they broke it, debris already covered the orb. I believe the durability of the jutsu lies within the covering rocks and debri, not necessarily the orb. Just speculation.
Nope itachi doesn't have perfect susanoo, and it's irrelevant whether nagato senses susanoo as he would only sense the chakra that is susanoo and will not notice/sense totsuka as he has his eyes close. Totsuka has shown to be quite lengthy, so itachi can utilize nagato's sensing to his advantage, eluding him to thinking he is at a safe range.
Nagato wins, but for other reasons. Using ct off the bat would only drain his chakra and leave him vulnerable to attacks, considering that you argue closing his eyes fighting itachi is a good strategy.
It took a tbb/frs/and matagma to destroy it. You're speculating that the debris is stronger than the core despite the core being at the center of gravity field and despite the fact that the debris is seen being broken down due to the strong gravity while the core maintains shape.
Tbb's blow up mountains with ease and 4 tailed naruto blasted through oro's roshomon yet a six tailed naruto couldn't do anything to ct.
Maddy's matanagma is not only more powerful but more numerous than that of itachi's but it couldn't even get past the golem and garra's sands. Yet itachi's matagma is gonna do something to Ct? Not a chance.
I ment complete susanno.sorry. Since nagato has knowledge he will know of the length limit(if there is one) of totska. That whole situation flawed on the premise that nagato has limited knowledge of itachi's abilities despite op giving him full.
He can use ct off the bat if he so pleases as there is nothing in itachi's arsenal that can stop it. Same for gedo mazo.
What is Nagato best at? Ninjutsu. What are his weaknesses? Taijutsu and Genjutsu. What does Itachi major in? Taijutsu and Genjutsu. Don't even get me started on Amaterasu.
The majority of Nagato's so called "advantage" over Itachi is Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Summons, and the Gedo Mazo. I'll counter all of them.
Chibaku Tensei: When Nagato launched this attack against the trio, it did what it always does: it used its gravitational pull to force them all to fly towards the black orb, along with other debris and projectiles in order to crush them. Itachi escaped it by ordering Naruto and Bee to use their strongest long ranged attack. When they all used it, it created an explosion so colossal that it made me question why they all needed to attack it together.
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The truth is that they didn't need to attack it together. All Itachi needs to do is throw a few extra Yasaka Magatamas and the core would explode, ending its gravitational pull and threat to Itachi. I mean seriously.. the orb is seriously small, smaller than a tennis ball. A few Yasaka Magatamas is more than enough to destroy it.
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Bansho Tennin: As we all know this is the usage of gravity to pull an opponent towards you. This one's quite simple, really. If he uses Bansho Tennin, Itachi can just summon Susano'o and he'll be dragging the Susano'o toward him with Itachi perfectly safe, and when Nagato uses the Preta Path to absorb the Susano'o, Itachi can either leave the Susano'o and resummon it or stab Nagato with the Sakegari Blade, which Nagato CANNOT absorb due to the fact that it is an ethereal object, something that does not possess chakra and therefore cannot be absorbed by the Preta. I know some people say that Nagato could Bansho Tennin him from his Susano'o, but I'm afraid that is ABSOLUTELY false. Even though it looks far from it, a Susano'o is solid and is literally the greatest defense we have ever seen in this show. It's like saying Nagato can Bansho Tennin someone from behind a wall; it's not happening.
Summons: Itachi already demonstrated what he needed to do to cancel Nagato's visual link. Itachi will simply repeat what he once did and use his kunai to sever the visual link. But if he doesn't want to do that, he can take advantage of the visual link and cast Tsukuyomi upon one of the Rinnegan summons, therefore affecting Nagato and exposing his biggest weakness (Genjutsu). So as you see, even if Itachi for some reason doesn't use crows to cast his genjutsu or he doesn't use Shunshin no Jutsu to teleport near his face and cast it, he can exploit the Rinnegan's visual link to still use Genjutsu.
Gedo Mazo: I'm not one of those Itachi fanboys that says Totsuka Blade GG, but taking advantage of the Gedo's massive size should be, well, quite easy. It's not fast, it's not agile, so what's stopping him from piercing it and sealing it with the Totsuka before it launches its attack? That's right: nothing. Even if for some reason Itachi doesn't want to seal it or cannot, Hanzo escaped the soul stealing jutsu by simply teleporting away. Seeing as Itachi's best friend was Shisui the Teleporter and also happened to be his mentor, I think it's quite true when I say he can just use Shunshin no Jutsu to teleport away from it.
All in all, I don't see this being an easy fight for either of the two. Both are extremely proficient in their own right, and exist in their own leagues, but in the end, I do see Itachi winning this battle.
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There is nothing that suggest Nagato can break through Tsukuyomi but the it won't come to that as Nagato has too much firepower for Itachi to even so much as move an inch towards Nagato.
There is nothing that suggest Nagato can break through Tsukuyomi but the it won't come to that as Nagato has too much firepower for Itachi to even so much as move an inch towards Nagato.
All genjutsu's affect all senses.
All genjutsu needs a medium in which to be activated
Ocular genjutsu(bar izanagi/izanami) require eye contact to be initiated. Indisputable fact.
No eye contact, no genjutsu. Hence itachi forcing kakashi to look in his eyes or itachi still having to pull kabuto's eyelids up to use tsukuyomi.
Every person that fell for itachi's visual genjutsu looked into his eyes. Nagato's a sensor. He doesn't need eye contact. Plain and simple.
A) finger gen isn't a sharingan based gen.
B) the medium in which finger gen is activated is looking at itachi's finger. (Which complies with the" all gen needs a medium in which to be activated" statement I made earlier)
A) finger gen isn't a sharingan based gen.
B) the medium in which finger gen is activated is looking at itachi's finger. (Which complies with the" all gen needs a medium in which to be activated" statement I made earlier)
If Itachi uses Izanagi, then he loses Susano'o and either Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, and thus, any proper defense against Nagato's attacks. He can't kill Nagato in the one minute he has with Izanagi, not with Nagato's sensor abilities,
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, Shinra Tensei to send him flying to the other side of the battlefield every 5 seconds, Asura Path missiles and chakra cannon, an immortal multiplying dog in his way (which Nagato will keep split due to knowledge of Amaterasu, making sure Itachi has to use up his chakra to take care of them),
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, a bird that Nagato could fly off on, an invisible chameleon that Itachi himself failed to warn Bee and Naruto about or defend against, Preta Path to negate any ninjutsu, Asura Path arms/tentacles and chakra rods to take care of taijutsu.
Nagato has far too many options for handling Itachi or simply keeping his offense long-ranged for Izanagi to be of use. Nevermind the fact that Izanagi's respawn distance has never been shown to be great. Izanami will also be a non-factor due to the fact that Nagato knows who he is.
It took a tbb/frs/and matagma to destroy it. You're speculating that the debris is stronger than the core despite the core being at the center of gravity field and despite the fact that the debris is seen being broken down due to the strong gravity while the core maintains shape.
Tbb's blow up mountains with ease and 4 tailed naruto blasted through oro's roshomon yet a six tailed naruto couldn't do anything to ct.
Maddy's matanagma is not only more powerful but more numerous than that of itachi's but it couldn't even get past the golem and garra's sands. Yet itachi's matagma is gonna do something to Ct? Not a chance.
I ment complete susanno.sorry. Since nagato has knowledge he will know of the length limit(if there is one) of totska. That whole situation flawed on the premise that nagato has limited knowledge of itachi's abilities despite op giving him full.
He can use ct off the bat if he so pleases as there is nothing in itachi's arsenal that can stop it. Same for gedo mazo.
Nope. Still speculation in your part as well. Irrelevant whether the ball is in the middle, seeing that is a given when you think of the principle of gravity... Yeah it's going to be in the middle. Lol. Irrelevant again whether the rocks are being crushed. It has a strong pull, so that equates to sturdiness? Still all speculation. I can argue too that the premise of the jutsu is genius. Covers the orb with rocks and debris at a devastating rate , wreaking havoc, giving the opposition no time to counter. However itachi has intel and won't take no time at all in countering. Also, it is not speculation that early stages of ct are weaker in defense in comparison to a more developed prolong ct.
Don't need a reminder of those jutsus destructive force... Don't need to remind me that in that scenario there were three powerful ninjas, one of them being an extremely cautious ninja/itachi. Don't need to remind that from an authors point if view it would absolutely make no sense in why bee in and naruto wouldn't chip in. Showcasing those jutsus was fan-service . Oh yeah you might need to remind me that this was the same edo itachi that learned to rely on others power's. Lol on top of that we will never know what was enough to destroy that orb. Or the properties of that orb, being it immune/weak to piercing attacks(magatamas), or it being weak/immune to projectile like attacks(ttb)
Full intel gives nagato an exact measurement of totsukas length? A spiritual weapon that has no definite form?
Why in the world would nagato need to use ct off the bat? It's not IC and full intel leads me to believe that he would counter itachi with his many other jutsus the rinnegan grants. Such as gedo mazou. I don't see itachi countering that. (Unless Yata hype is real) : ) yes nagato beats itachi more times than itachi beats him. But I just find it ridiculous to close your eyes and perform ct right off the bat.
The main problem is, that folk isn't able to acknowledge Itachi's true prowess, considering a battle in which Itachi will fight off guard and carelessly use his MS techniques. That's not the Itachi we met thus far. We know an Itachi who largely relies on feints which result in his insane skills. His reputation speaks for itself.
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And that's what will help Itachi against the likes of Nagato. The people, who always build on a shallow fight which will happen when Itachi is involved, resulting in him excessively spamming his Mangekyo techniques until he dies, sadly have no common sense. Just like they take the easy way out when trying to counter techniques like Genjutsu, by saying that Nagato will simply fight while avoiding eye contact due to possessing sensory skills, not in the least thinking about the consequences. I call that witless.
Despite we learned, that fighting effectively while tracking isn't possible, as one will interfere the other [
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] (at least when not speaking about above average sensors which Nagato never showed to be), and effectively defending against attacks from your blind spot isn't necessarily possible even with sensory skills [
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] and becomes his disadvantage, as one of Itachi's calibre could easily force Nagato to lose his concentration. I am aware of the fact that Nagato and his summons share a vision, but at the other hand, Itachi proved that he has no problems in act in their blind spots and use any possible opening to get rid off of them. Kunai and Shuriken proved to be enough to do the job, as they will blind the summons and make their vision useless. Tagging the Kunai with paper bombs will further checkmate the summons. At this point it doesn't even matter if they see the attack; they simply don't have what it takes to avoid it. Nagato is far from Juubito's level, who can sense the Chakra built up in one's eye and react instantly. Nagato merely sensed pressure from heated air as he stood right next to Itachi, not even being involved in a battle situation at all. So either Nagato fights Itachi effectively or he starts kneading Chakra to sense effectively.
So what could Itachi do to force Nagato to look into his eyes? His feints, which are an interaction of his insane speed and the use of Bunshins, weapons and crows for distraction - or generally speaking, the whole of his skills - will do it in the long run. Just to illustrate one example:
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] and allowed Itachi to appear right in front of Sasuke with the necessary eye contact. Nobody needs to tell me that this actually happened inside Itachi's Genjutsu, as Itachi displayed nothing but the skills he actually possesses.
You insist on Nagato's sensory skills. But what if Itachi, being aware of Nagato's disadvantage when trying to avoid eye contact, will use exactly this to his advantage? For example analyzing the summons blind spot again and throw a bunch of Kunai with tagged paper bombs at Nagato, who couldn't sense Kunai? It would be enough to throw one before his feet to distract him even more, in order to attack him in the largest opening or cast a Genjutsu, like Sasuke already displayed against Shee with far less effort. Or if he throws a bunch of Kunai with tagged paper bombs from all directions at Nagato, forcing him to repel it with the Shinra Tensei and then blitzing him with the Totsuka blade within the interval? Or sending an explosive Bunshin in close combat with Nagato to blow him away in the case he won't counter with the Shinra Tensei but with Shurado alone? And if he actually counters with Shinra Tensei, using the interval to immediately shot a bunch of Kunai with paper bombs at him or going into close combat, as he would force Nagato even easier to look into his eyes if latter can't blow him away from his range.
The summons shared vision can become an disadvantage for Nagato as well, as Itachi could cast a Genjutsu on them to force Nagato to see what they see. In the case he closes his eyes, he is forced to believe in what the summons see, and that can be an illusion which Itachi cast to fool Nagato. He could force Nagato to believe in Itachi attacking head-on, while he in fact could attack from another spot.
I give you just one advice: Stop this blunt reasoning and start seeing the bigger picture.
But past makes me believe, that I wasted my time once more with this post, as nobody will care and stick to his opinion.
The main problem is, that folk isn't able to acknowledge Itachi's true prowess, considering a battle in which Itachi will fight off guard and carelessly use his MS techniques. That's not the Itachi we met thus far. We know an Itachi who largely relies on feints which result in his insane skills. His reputation speaks for itself.
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And that's what will help Itachi against the likes of Nagato. The people, who always build on a shallow fight which will happen when Itachi is involved, resulting in him excessively spamming his Mangekyo techniques until he dies, sadly have no common sense. Just like they take the easy way out when trying to counter techniques like Genjutsu, by saying that Nagato will simply fight while avoiding eye contact due to possessing sensory skills, not in the least thinking about the consequences. I call that witless.
Despite we learned, that fighting effectively while tracking isn't possible, as one will interfere the other [
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] (at least when not speaking about above average sensors which Nagato never showed to be), and effectively defending against attacks from your blind spot isn't necessarily possible even with sensory skills [
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], people are still under the assumption that Nagato would have an easy game in fighting Itachi while avoiding eye contact. As looking into his enemies eyes is a habit, avoiding it becomes a hard task for those who aren't trained in that matter [
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] and becomes his disadvantage, as one of Itachi's calibre could easily force Nagato to lose his concentration. I am aware of the fact that Nagato and his summons share a vision, but at the other hand, Itachi proved that he has no problems in act in their blind spots and use any possible opening to get rid off of them. Kunai and Shuriken proved to be enough to do the job, as they will blind the summons and make their vision useless. Tagging the Kunai with paper bombs will further checkmate the summons. At this point it doesn't even matter if they see the attack; they simply don't have what it takes to avoid it. Nagato is far from Juubito's level, who can sense the Chakra built up in one's eye and react instantly. Nagato merely sensed pressure from heated air as he stood right next to Itachi, not even being involved in a battle situation at all. So either Nagato fights Itachi effectively or he starts kneading Chakra to sense effectively.
So what could Itachi do to force Nagato to look into his eyes? His feints, which are an interaction of his insane speed and the use of Bunshins, weapons and crows for distraction - or generally speaking, the whole of his skills - will do it in the long run. Just to illustrate one example:
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] and allowed Itachi to appear right in front of Sasuke with the necessary eye contact. Nobody needs to tell me that this actually happened inside Itachi's Genjutsu, as Itachi displayed nothing but the skills he actually possesses.
You insist on Nagato's sensory skills. But what if Itachi, being aware of Nagato's disadvantage when trying to avoid eye contact, will use exactly this to his advantage? For example analyzing the summons blind spot again and throw a bunch of Kunai with tagged paper bombs at Nagato, who couldn't sense Kunai? It would be enough to throw one before his feet to distract him even more, in order to attack him in the largest opening or cast a Genjutsu, like Sasuke already displayed against Shee with far less effort. Or if he throws a bunch of Kunai with tagged paper bombs from all directions at Nagato, forcing him to repel it with the Shinra Tensei and then blitzing him with the Totsuka blade within the interval? Or sending an explosive Bunshin in close combat with Nagato to blow him away in the case he won't counter with the Shinra Tensei but with Shurado alone? And if he actually counters with Shinra Tensei, using the interval to immediately shot a bunch of Kunai with paper bombs at him or going into close combat, as he would force Nagato even easier to look into his eyes if latter can't blow him away from his range.
The summons shared vision can become an disadvantage for Nagato as well, as Itachi could cast a Genjutsu on them to force Nagato to see what they see. In the case he closes his eyes, he is forced to believe in what the summons see, and that can be an illusion which Itachi cast to fool Nagato. He could force Nagato to believe in Itachi attacking head-on, while he in fact could attack from another spot.
I give you just one advice: Stop this blunt reasoning and start seeing the bigger picture.
But past makes me believe, that I wasted my time once more with this post, as nobody will care and stick to his opinion.
People who are close-minded are also obstinate in their opinions and will refuse to consider options, even if their beliefs are riddled with inaccuracies.
To the Nagato fans? Going by popular vote isn't always a great choice.
Itachi wins. He already countered everything Nagato has and that was without even utilizing his full arsenal, which Nagato did do.
First off, Nagato doesn't have yin yang release not in the slightest.
Nowhere in the manga is this stated, so stop with the @sspull.
Second, all you need is an eye and senju DNA to use the incomplete inzanagi.
The scan you showed doesn't post DNA, it states the power of both uchiha and senju (which is sharingan and mokuton/senju life energy) <----Nagato doesn't have the sharingan
To use the full perfect inzanagi, you need both uchiha and senju DNA which derived off of Creations of all things.
Nagato has neither of them...
Lastly do you even know what a tissue is in the first place?
Madara literally took a tissue from Hashirama and transplant it in the hole in his chest.
He is both uchiha/senju because he acquired Hashirama's tissue, Nagato has nothing in regards to Uchiha.
It's really pathetic that you think that Madara who injected himself with cells/what an organism is made of, is not Senju but you think Nagato getting someone's eyes gives you cells/what Madara is made of.
Madara used the same exact process as DSM Kabuto to achieve Oro/Uzamaki/Houzoki/Tenpin cells tissue.
Nagato gets a little eye transplant, you literally get no cells in uchiha whatsoever... :|
The Gedo mazou thing, I have no idea what you're rambling on about but all I know is that Nagato can barely control Statue and that
The 9 dragon is an akatsuki Justu.
Pain can't do it on his own, even Tobi no rinnegan used the 9 dragon seal with only zetsu and kisame.
Sigh,
,Nagato mastered all 6 natures at the age of 10,
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Danzo had incomplete izangi because he could not control hashirama's cells properly while obito could,had nothing to do with uchiha part of him
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Lol, to get the power of a person yoy get their dna,obito nd madara possess the power of senjuu through getting the dna,kabuto has all the powers of the sound 5 by taking their dna.
Nagato dosent have the sharingan becuse it evolved to Rinnegan,
Obito said danzo also possessed the powers of senju and uchiha
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Danzo didnt even use a sharingan to counter tsukiyomi,so either he had uchiha dn in him due to the transplant or itachi's claim is crap,take your pick
Just gonna stop right here.if these scans don't convince you then there is no point.
Since you itachi supporters are so focused on tsukiyomi,with full intel,ngato cloeses his eyes ns throws ct into the air,gg itachi
Sigh,
,Nagato mastered all 6 natures at the age of 10,
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Danzo had incomplete izangi because he could not control hashirama's cells properly while obito could,had nothing to do with uchiha part of him
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Lol, to get the power of a person yoy get their dna,obito nd madara possess the power of senjuu through getting the dna,kabuto has all the powers of the sound 5 by taking their dna.
Nagato dosent have the sharingan becuse it evolved to Rinnegan,
Obito said danzo also possessed the powers of senju and uchiha
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Danzo didnt even use a sharingan to counter tsukiyomi,so either he had uchiha dn in him due to the transplant or itachi's claim is crap,take your pick
Just gonna stop right here.if these scans don't convince you then there is no point.
Since you itachi supporters are so focused on tsukiyomi,with full intel,ngato cloeses his eyes ns throws ct into the air,gg itachi
Now you are starting to pick up sense, but still misconceptions in a few places.
1) the first scan showed that he manipulated the elements of chakra, it nowhere states that yin-yang release was mastered.
So that is wrong...
At least with Madara, he taught Obito Inyouton...
^^The verb is being carried out towards 2 nouns. (Chapter 606 page 15-16)
Nowhere does that it suggest that the same thing for Nagato.
2. He said Danzo had the power of senju and uchiha...
Where does it state that he has the DNA?
If you read what Tobi said after the fight about Danzo, he stated that Danzo is not Uchiha and putting a bunch
Of eyes together is nothing compared to a full bloody Uchiha <---not word for word
Remember what Tobi told Konan?
He said the sage had the power and the blood of both clans.
Which he created many things... Inzanagi
Then he mocked Danzo for having an incomplete version.
Danzo doesn't have Uchiha blood/DNA in him, that's why he fell for Sasuke's weak genjustu.
If Danzo did have Uchiha blood, he wouldn't of got caught.
Same applies to Kakashi despite having Uchiha transplant, yet faltering towards Itachi's Tsukyomi.
3. I'd advice you to read Stricts post, he basically nullify the whole closing eye crap.
Nagato can't close his eyes and throw ct, he wouldn't know where to through it in the first place.
You also need intensive training in taijustu (Gai) in order to fight with your eyes close.
Now you are starting to pick up sense, but still misconceptions in a few places.
1) the first scan showed that he manipulated the elements of chakra, it nowhere states that yin-yang release was mastered.
So that is wrong...
At least with Madara, he taught Obito Inyouton...
^^The verb is being carried out towards 2 nouns. (Chapter 606 page 15-16)
Nowhere does that it suggest that the same thing for Nagato.
2. He said Danzo had the power of senju and uchiha...
Where does it state that he has the DNA?
If you read what Tobi said after the fight about Danzo, he stated that Danzo is not Uchiha and putting a bunch
Of eyes together is nothing compared to a full bloody Uchiha <---not word for word
Remember what Tobi told Konan?
He said the sage had the power and the blood of both clans.
Which he created many things... Inzanagi
Then he mocked Danzo for having an incomplete version.
Danzo doesn't have Uchiha blood/DNA in him, that's why he fell for Sasuke's weak genjustu.
If Danzo did have Uchiha blood, he wouldn't of got caught.
Same applies to Kakashi despite having Uchiha transplant, yet faltering towards Itachi's Tsukyomi.
3. I'd advice you to read Stricts post, he basically nullify the whole closing eye crap.
Nagato can't close his eyes and throw ct, he wouldn't know where to through it in the first place.
You also need intensive training in taijustu (Gai) in order to fight with your eyes close.
the 6th chakra nature is yinyang,dont have time to explain but read this,
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Ive told you already, to get the power of a clan or individual means you need to have their dna. Kabuto got the powers of the sound4,taka and orochimaru by getting their dna,madara and obito have hashi's power by taking his dna. Danzo having the powers of both uchiha and senju means he has their dna.
Like i said,replacing a portion of your dna with that of a clan's dna dosent turn you into a full blooded member of that clan, danzo is only part uchiha,part senju and then the rest of his dna is his shimura bloodline, madara is not a full senju either,rather part senju part uchiha.
Lets say you take an apple,cut part of it and replace it with an orange,that dosent make ir a full orange,rather part apple,part orange.
Already proved why danzo couldnt use izanagi full,it had nothing to do with the uchia side of him.
Being an uchiha dosent make you immune to genjutsu,both sasuke and itachi have gotten caught in genjutsu,danzo fell for the weaker genjutsu because he didnt know he was in it,he didnt have a sharingan to aid him at that time,he already broke out of a tsukiyomi without his sharingan. So like i said,either itachi's claim is wrong or danzo possesed uchiha dna,take a pick.
Nagato can sense itachi's location,so he knows where he is,he just throws the ct above his own head,the aoe will reach itachi. Or he can use an invicible chamelion to hide himself anyway.
+rep to you.
