[VS] Healthy Itachi(MS) vs Mobile Nagato(Rinnegan)

[ComplexCity]

Itachi med diffs pain.

Nagato's weakness has been confirmed as genjutsu.

Itachi is a genjustu genius.

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No it hasn't. auditory genjutsu is different from ocular genjutsu. There's no proof that he can't see through it

 

[ComplexCity]

Susanoo low-diff

Chibaku Tensei GG

 

[DaileyM]

Itachi wins extreme high diff.

 

[ComplexCity]

Itachi wins extreme high diff.

Can you elucidate @_@

 

[WreckRoll]

Nagato wins med diff at best. Genjutsu can be countered with his eyes closed. He is a sensor so Amaterasu isn't a problem. He also has gedo mazo and other summons. He can fly through deva path or Asura path making him unreachable by itachi. On the other hand each time itachi uses one of his big techs, he will suffer strain from MS, making the fight easier for nagato as itachi's movements will become sluggish.

he can't fight with his eyes closed and he can't fly, only levitate, also his summons share their field of vision with nagato so he still falls in genjutsu

 

[TheTailedSage]

Nagato Mid diff

 

[V h o]

How does Itachi even counter Nagato's moves?

Nagato mid difficulty.

 

[Itachi4life]

itachi mid diff.

 

[King Of Pop]

Nagato wins mid dif max.

 

[VongolaX]

...What? What is Susano'o doing to Nagato?

Same thing it did the last time, low diff him.

Nagato has nothing that can overwhelm Susanoo...

Even chibakui tensei can't crush it's defense.

 

[Inert Brian]

just because Nagato couldn't do anything against the Frog Song, which is the second strongest jutsu after the infinite Tsukuyomi
does not mean he's weak against itachi's genjutsu since he has much superior eyes. Itachi was helpless against Tayuya and here genjutsu, does that mean genjutsu is his weakness?

Too funny.

1. When was frog song stated to be the 2nd strongest genjutsu? If it was "so powerful" then why did deva kill pa while he prepped it? Tayuya's flute has better feats, it requires 0 prep time.

2. Already disproved the "Superior eyes" argument, why are you refuting it? My link ends that argument Itachi already stated you need Sharingan and Uchiha blood. Actually, what makes the superior eyes argument that much worse is that Sharingan is better at casting genjutsu than Rinnegan is. Madara used Tsukuyomi on Ay with EMS, but not Rinnegan?

3. Your analogy is off by a long shot. Ma and Pa confirmed genjutsu is most effective against him, Naruto then says "but I don't know genjutsu!" Then Ma and Pa say they were going to prep Frog song. Which leads to Pa's death.

Just because Genjutsu is his weakest point doesn't mean he loses to Kurenai. That just means he's most vulnerable to Genjutsu.
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[LustyLover]

Itachi high difficulty. I'll elaborate if needed.

 

[Yolobito Swagchiha]

Itachi high difficulty. I'll elaborate if needed.

Please do. I'd like to see your explanation.

 

[21 Savage]

Itachi will kick nagato's butt like a grown up scolding a baby

 

[Inert Brian]

I suppose i'll use more than the genjutsu argument as my crutch.

-If Nagato goes for a BT - Itachi uses Amaterasu and lights Nagato up because he's pulling in the black flames using BT.

-If Nagato decides to Summon - Itachi hides while he removes the Rinnegan's shared vision with Kunai (the same way he did it against Edo Nagato). If he summoned the Cerberus then Amaterasu 1 shots it the same as in the Manga. If he summoned the bird first for mobility then Itachi uses amaterasu taking Mobility away and quickly ending Nagato with either Susano'o (for a safe distance), or Tsukuyomi.

-If Nagato goes for CT then Yasaka magatamas counter it. Itachi was giving Naruto and Bee a lesson in jutsu analysis. The manga has never shown how durable the core really is, sadly this point really just goes in to speculation. But even so that's Nagato's last resort tech. Itachi can already end this fight with the above BT and Summonings.

 

[LustyLover]

What is Nagato best at? Ninjutsu. What are his weaknesses? Taijutsu and Genjutsu. What does Itachi major in? Taijutsu and Genjutsu. Don't even get me started on Amaterasu.

The majority of Nagato's so called "advantage" over Itachi is Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Summons, and the Gedo Mazo. I'll counter all of them.

Chibaku Tensei: When Nagato launched this attack against the trio, it did what it always does: it used its gravitational pull to force them all to fly towards the black orb, along with other debris and projectiles in order to crush them. Itachi escaped it by ordering Naruto and Bee to use their strongest long ranged attack. When they all used it, it created an explosion so colossal that it made me question why they all needed to attack it together.

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The truth is that they didn't need to attack it together. All Itachi needs to do is throw a few extra Yasaka Magatamas and the core would explode, ending its gravitational pull and threat to Itachi. I mean seriously.. the orb is seriously small, smaller than a tennis ball. A few Yasaka Magatamas is more than enough to destroy it.

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Bansho Tennin: As we all know this is the usage of gravity to pull an opponent towards you. This one's quite simple, really. If he uses Bansho Tennin, Itachi can just summon Susano'o and he'll be dragging the Susano'o toward him with Itachi perfectly safe, and when Nagato uses the Preta Path to absorb the Susano'o, Itachi can either leave the Susano'o and resummon it or stab Nagato with the Sakegari Blade, which Nagato CANNOT absorb due to the fact that it is an ethereal object, something that does not possess chakra and therefore cannot be absorbed by the Preta. I know some people say that Nagato could Bansho Tennin him from his Susano'o, but I'm afraid that is ABSOLUTELY false. Even though it looks far from it, a Susano'o is solid and is literally the greatest defense we have ever seen in this show. It's like saying Nagato can Bansho Tennin someone from behind a wall; it's not happening.

Summons: Itachi already demonstrated what he needed to do to cancel Nagato's visual link. Itachi will simply repeat what he once did and use his kunai to sever the visual link. But if he doesn't want to do that, he can take advantage of the visual link and cast Tsukuyomi upon one of the Rinnegan summons, therefore affecting Nagato and exposing his biggest weakness (Genjutsu). So as you see, even if Itachi for some reason doesn't use crows to cast his genjutsu or he doesn't use Shunshin no Jutsu to teleport near his face and cast it, he can exploit the Rinnegan's visual link to still use Genjutsu.

Gedo Mazo: I'm not one of those Itachi fanboys that says Totsuka Blade GG, but taking advantage of the Gedo's massive size should be, well, quite easy. It's not fast, it's not agile, so what's stopping him from piercing it and sealing it with the Totsuka before it launches its attack? That's right: nothing. Even if for some reason Itachi doesn't want to seal it or cannot, Hanzo escaped the soul stealing jutsu by simply teleporting away. Seeing as Itachi's best friend was Shisui the Teleporter and also happened to be his mentor, I think it's quite true when I say he can just use Shunshin no Jutsu to teleport away from it.

All in all, I don't see this being an easy fight for either of the two. Both are extremely proficient in their own right, and exist in their own leagues, but in the end, I do see Itachi winning this battle.


Edit: I added a few things that you might want to read.

 

[Yolobito Swagchiha]

What is Nagato best at? Ninjutsu. What are his weaknesses? Taijutsu and Genjutsu. What does Itachi major in? Taijutsu and Genjutsu. Don't even get me started on Amaterasu.

The majority of Nagato's so called "advantage" over Itachi is Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Summons, and the Gedo Mazo. I'll counter all of them.

Chibaku Tensei: When Nagato launched this attack against the trio, it did what it always does: it used its gravitational pull to force them all to fly towards the black orb, along with other debris and projectiles in order to crush them. Itachi escaped it by ordering Naruto and Bee to use their strongest long ranged attack. When they all used it, it created an explosion so colossal that it made me question why they all needed to attack it together.

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The truth is that they didn't need to attack it together. All Itachi needed to do was throw a few extra Yasaka Magatamas and the core would explode, ending its gravitational pull and threat to Itachi. I mean seriously.. the orb is seriously small, smaller than a tennis ball. A few Yasaka Magatamas is more than enough to destroy it.

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Shinra Tensei: As we all know this is the usage of gravity to pull an opponent towards you. This one's quite simple, really. If he uses Shinra Tensei, Itachi can just summon Susano'o and he'll be dragging the Susano'o toward him with Itachi perfectly safe, and when Nagato uses the Preta Path to absorb the Susano'o, Itachi can either leave the Susano'o and resummon it or stab Nagato with the Sakegari Blade.

Summons: Itachi already demonstrated what he needed to do to cancel Nagato's visual link. After severing the link, he can simply cast his Genjutsu on the summons so he can use them for his advantage instead of Nagato's. But if he doesn't want to do that, he can take advantage of the visual link and cast Tsukuyomi upon one of the Rinnegan summons, therefore affecting Nagato and exposing his biggest weakness (Genjutsu). So as you see, even if Itachi for some reason doesn't use crows to cast his genjutsu or he doesn't use Shunshin no Jutsu to teleport near his face and cast it, he can exploit the Rinnegan's visual link to still use Genjutsu.

Gedo Mazo: I'm not one of those Itachi fanboys that says Totsuka Blade GG, but taking advantage of the Gedo's massive size should be, well, quite easy. It's not fast, it's not agile, so what's stopping him from piercing it and sealing it with the Totsuka before it launches its attack? That's right: nothing. Even if for some reason Itachi doesn't want to seal it or cannot, Hanzo escaped the the soul stealing jutsu by simply teleporting away. Seeing as Itachi's best friend was Shisui the Teleporter and also happened to be his mentor, I think it's quite true when I say he can just use Shunshin no Jutsu to teleport away from it.

All in all, I don't see this being an easy fight for either of the two. Both are extremely proficient in their own right, and exist in their own leagues, but in the end, I do see Itachi winning this battle.

I'm afraid you've confused Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tennin.

 

[LustyLover]

I'm afraid you've confused Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tennin.

Can you or anyone provide a counter?

 

[LuckyMan]

What is Nagato best at? Ninjutsu. What are his weaknesses? Taijutsu and Genjutsu. What does Itachi major in? Taijutsu and Genjutsu. Don't even get me started on Amaterasu.

The majority of Nagato's so called "advantage" over Itachi is Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Summons, and the Gedo Mazo. I'll counter all of them.

Chibaku Tensei: When Nagato launched this attack against the trio, it did what it always does: it used its gravitational pull to force them all to fly towards the black orb, along with other debris and projectiles in order to crush them. Itachi escaped it by ordering Naruto and Bee to use their strongest long ranged attack. When they all used it, it created an explosion so colossal that it made me question why they all needed to attack it together.

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The truth is that they didn't need to attack it together. All Itachi needed to do was throw a few extra Yasaka Magatamas and the core would explode, ending its gravitational pull and threat to Itachi. I mean seriously.. the orb is seriously small, smaller than a tennis ball. A few Yasaka Magatamas is more than enough to destroy it.

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Bansho Tennin: As we all know this is the usage of gravity to pull an opponent towards you. This one's quite simple, really. If he uses Bansho Tennin, Itachi can just summon Susano'o and he'll be dragging the Susano'o toward him with Itachi perfectly safe, and when Nagato uses the Preta Path to absorb the Susano'o, Itachi can either leave the Susano'o and resummon it or stab Nagato with the Sakegari Blade, which Nagato CANNOT absorb due to the fact that it is an ethereal object, something that does not possess chakra and therefore cannot be absorbed by the Preta.

Summons: Itachi already demonstrated what he needed to do to cancel Nagato's visual link. After severing the link, he can simply cast his Genjutsu on the summons so he can use them for his advantage instead of Nagato's. But if he doesn't want to do that, he can take advantage of the visual link and cast Tsukuyomi upon one of the Rinnegan summons, therefore affecting Nagato and exposing his biggest weakness (Genjutsu). So as you see, even if Itachi for some reason doesn't use crows to cast his genjutsu or he doesn't use Shunshin no Jutsu to teleport near his face and cast it, he can exploit the Rinnegan's visual link to still use Genjutsu.

Gedo Mazo: I'm not one of those Itachi fanboys that says Totsuka Blade GG, but taking advantage of the Gedo's massive size should be, well, quite easy. It's not fast, it's not agile, so what's stopping him from piercing it and sealing it with the Totsuka before it launches its attack? That's right: nothing. Even if for some reason Itachi doesn't want to seal it or cannot, Hanzo escaped the soul stealing jutsu by simply teleporting away. Seeing as Itachi's best friend was Shisui the Teleporter and also happened to be his mentor, I think it's quite true when I say he can just use Shunshin no Jutsu to teleport away from it.

All in all, I don't see this being an easy fight for either of the two. Both are extremely proficient in their own right, and exist in their own leagues, but in the end, I do see Itachi winning this battle.

Entire argument lost all weight at that start. You said the truth is that they did not have to attack it all together. Then you said All Itachi needed to do was throw a few extra Yasaka Beads to make it explode. Contradiction my friend. If Itachi needed to throw extra Yasaka Beads for it to explode, along with a TBB and RS, then you are acknowledging that they in-fact had to attack it all together for it to explode. The main fire power of that attack was the TBB and RS, not the Yasaka Beads. You disagree? Madara used the same attack on a higher scale

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and it was blocked by Gaaras Sand Wall and Onoki's Golem. It did not cause a great enough explosion, matter of fact, it barely caused an explosion period. Itachis is of a lower caliber than Madara's was and is not even close to enough power to stop the Planetary Devastation by itself.

@OP Restricting Kotoamatsukami is not a restriction for Itachi. He cannot even used the jutsu. He put the crow holding the eye inside Naruto so he does not have it ,and even if he did, he designed it so that it would only react to his eye therefore it cannot be used by him. Restricting Naraka Path was fair I guess, Nagato could just heal himself of all injuries, but it only just goes to show just how inferior Itachi is to Nagato.

Itachi dies to Planetary Devastation.

 

[Apêx1]

Nagato destroys Itachi.