[VS] Healthy Itachi and Base Minato vs Healthy nagato

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CT starts, Minato and Itachi are teleported to Konoha. Or with full intel, they could destroy the core when it's small or warp it away no?
No, because apparently Minato isn't fast enough to evade the rocks before warping away CT despite dodging Ay and warping away before Gai hit him. :lol

This post was sarcastic by the way.
 

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No, because apparently Minato isn't fast enough to evade the rocks before warping away CT. :lol
Warping it away is kind of iffy, since getting close to the orb could koll the clone before it is warped. But they have another way around which is teleport to a safe location, or, destroy it when it's not shielded by dense layers of rock, which is kind of iffy because there's no parameter to tell how much power is needed to destroy it.

Yeah destroying it is out of the question, Minato has no firepower and Magatamas were the weakest of the combination magatama-frs-tbb
 

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Warping it away is kind of iffy, since getting close to the orb could koll the clone before it is warped. But they have another way around which is teleport to a safe location, or, destroy it when it's not shielded by dense layers of rock, which is kind of iffy because there's no parameter to tell how much power is needed to destroy it.

Yeah destroying it is out of the question, Minato has no firepower and Magatamas were the weakest of the combination magatama-frs-tbb
...You just proposed the idea yourself. But ok.

So Minato cannot warp away before rocks smash him despite warping away before Ay hit him in full speed? Or Gai? Or Obito?

Doesn't it sound funny to put these rocks in higher speed category than top tier speed characters in the manga? If not, then we can leave it be.

I honestly believe the fight ends before that but that'd be too boring.
 

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...You just proposed the idea yourself. But ok.

So Minato cannot warp away before rocks smash him despite warping away before Ay hit him in full speed? Or Gai? Or Obito?

Doesn't it sound funny to put these rocks in higher speed category than top tier speed characters in the manga? If not, then we can leave it be.

I honestly believe the fight ends before that but that'd be too boring.
Yeah but then realized it's not possible.

And i agree that Minato can get to the orb before getting crushed due to his speed, he could throw a kunai and when it's close to the orb teleport, but the question is, can he actually touch the orb without being crushed by the gravity of the orb itself?
 

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Yeah but then realized it's not possible.

And i agree that Minato can get to the orb before getting crushed due to his speed, he could throw a kunai and when it's close to the orb teleport, but the question is, can he actually touch the orb without being crushed by the gravity of the orb itself?
He doesn't need to touch the orb, just CT itself. The whole thing is connected so once he touches CT, it can be warped away.
 

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Lmao. That isn't how Hiraishin works. Minato has to touch what he wants to warp away. "Throw a Kunai, hits it, and warps away" is fanfiction.

And stop talking about speed. Speed is irrelevant when Minato is literally warping himself into a continuous stream of objects. Lmao @ "There aren't that many rocks". In a minute or so CT grows from a small palm sized orb to a Mountain Range dwarfing construct and you are actually sitting here arguing that there are not that many rocks being attracted? :lol Let's be serious.

"It's still 8G Gai" doesn't matter because he was going at speeds Gaara and Kakashi could follow and match.
You obviously don't read the manga. Minato doesn't have to touch anything to warp it away. He has his space time barrier also. It just has to be within his barriers reach And It was big enough to warpthe kyuubis tbb. Touch... Lmfao if Mine to touched the tbb as you claim then he would have died before the fight against the obito even began. Itachi spams his magmata at CT core And It gets destroyed. If you argue that's not enough then mine to creates 2 clones which both use giant rasengans on the core before they proof away. Should be plenty. Itachi destroys any of nagato summons like he did in canon when it comes to shared vision. Gamabunta helps if need be. Nagato really doesn't stand a chance here. Minato and itachi win mid diff at best

Also...cut the bullshit about Edo nagato not being mobile. He was fully mobile the moment he sucked up bee's chakra and the panels CLEARLY showed it. Your SELECTIVE memory aint shit. He was negged by Itachi when he was FULL power AND FULLY mobile and you think he will beat these two? Laughable. Kid fayget is more like it. You argue like you live for this shit. You and riker should go and be **** buddies. Both yall *****s needs the others cockmeat sammich.
 
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You obviously don't read the manga. Minato doesn't have to touch anything to warp it away. He has his space time barrier also. It just has to be within his barriers reach And It was big enough to warpthe kyuubis tbb. Touch... Lmfao if Mine to touched the tbb as you claim then he would have died before the fight against the obito even began. Itachi spams his magmata at CT core And It gets destroyed. If you argue that's not enough then mine to creates 2 clones which both use giant rasengans on the core before they proof away. Should be plenty. Itachi destroys any of nagato summons like he did in canon when it comes to shared vision. Gamabunta helps if need be. Nagato really doesn't stand a chance here. Minato and itachi win mid diff at best
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I'm cracking up here, KG you good fam?
 

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Lmao @ Minato using a kunai to warp something.

Nagato wins this, only viable counter to CT is an outside mark which is basically a forfeit as if he tried to warp back the marks would be within CT already.
 

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1. It's also obvious what I meant. Go in and out. There's nothing hard about that.

2. See those trees at the left? Compare them to the rocks you see. So those trees, that are fought on with 10 man teams, are foot tall?

3. He gets tagged and he loses. Do I really need to find one out of 100 ways on how he gets tortured to death? Totsuka gg, Hiraishin gg, Amaterasu + Totsuka gg. Really all this fight needs is Amaterasu distraction and Hiraishin to finish it off. But I'm just debating this CT one because you guys believe so passionately that CT actually gets formed in time.

Shinra Tensei has 5 second interval. So if Naruto managed to throw make Rasengan and throw himself at Pain, Minato can't throw another wave of Kunais to kill him? Fuuton doesn't matter, even if he blocks Minato (which he doesn't really lol), Itachi will still be there to finish it off with Amaterasu and Totsuka. And how does Asura Path block ? :lol Come on bruh.

Seems like you're running out of arguments? Like I said, after CT Nagato gets destroyed.
2. That area are the rocks farthest from the core. Why do you keep bringing irrelevant examples to prove your point? The distance between the rocks closest to the core, i.e. where Minato would be according to your idiotic argument, and the core is not a meter.

3. None of that is an argument. You should know better by now to come at me with stupid shit like this sonny boy.

-Hiraishin GG isn't an argument.
-Totsuka GG isn't an argument.
-Amaterasu+Totsuka GG isn't an argument.

An Amaterasu distraction? How does Amaterasu distract him when he's canonically sensed the build up for it? :lol Amaterasu is used and then Nagato absorbs it and Minato's Kunai are repelled.

-Shinra Tensei having a 5 second time limit doesn't matter when he has Fuuton and Asura Path.

-"Fuuton doesn't matter" isn't a counter to Fuuton repelling his Kunai. Unless you have an actual reason for why Fuuton can't repel Kunai then you don't need to continue dragging a point you are obviously wrong on.

-As for how Asura Path repels Kunai. [ ]


Don't reply if this is how you are going to debate because right now you're just wasting both of our time. Or rather don't reply because I know you can't do any better than making trash arguments, so you ending this now would save me a lot of time ripping this garbage to shreds.


CT starts, Minato and Itachi are teleported to Konoha. Or with full intel, they could destroy the core when it's small or warp it away no?
If outside markings are allowed, then yes, but it's not like this helps because once they teleport away they can't come back as all their Kunai have been locked inside of Chibaku Tensei's center. Not sure how they are going to warp the core away as addressed nor do they have the destructive power to destroy the core on their own regardless of it being small or not. Only way is if their techs can reach the core before it gathers rock, and they can't do that.

You obviously don't read the manga. Minato doesn't have to touch anything to warp it away. He has his space time barrier also. It just has to be within his barriers reach And It was big enough to warpthe kyuubis tbb. Touch... Lmfao if Mine to touched the tbb as you claim then he would have died before the fight against the obito even began. Itachi spams his magmata at CT core And It gets destroyed. If you argue that's not enough then mine to creates 2 clones which both use giant rasengans on the core before they proof away. Should be plenty. Itachi destroys any of nagato summons like he did in canon when it comes to shared vision. Gamabunta helps if need be. Nagato really doesn't stand a chance here. Minato and itachi win mid diff at best

Also...cut the bullshit about Edo nagato not being mobile. He was fully mobile the moment he sucked up bee's chakra and the panels CLEARLY showed it. Your SELECTIVE memory aint shit. He was negged by Itachi when he was FULL power AND FULLY mobile and you think he will beat these two? Laughable. Kid fayget is more like it. You argue like you live for this shit. You and riker should go and be **** buddies. Both yall *****s needs the others cockmeat sammich.
Lmao look at this little Minato schlong slurper, all up in your feelings for no reason. What a fruit. Wursta didn't mention the S/T Barrier so I have no reason to address it. Not to mention the S/T Barrier only works if the object is drawn into the barrier, and CT is stationary after the core is released. So unless you can get me a scan of Minato warping a stationary object with his barrier you can stop.

Itachi canonically cannot destroy the CT core on his own. Not interested in a fan's (especially one as dumb as you) interpretation. The core gathers rock too quickly and his Magatama's feats are too shitty for him to be able to hit the core while it's still exposed.

-Nagato's summons are irrelevant and no one mentioned them.

-Minato using Giant Rasengan is fanfiction. Minato getting that close to the core to attack it is impossible because of the attractive force, hence why Itachi said use your strongest LONG RANGE MOVES. :lol But if you knew how to read the Manga you'd know that.

Minato and Itachi may have a chance, but it's not mid diff and it's definitely not because of any argument presented by this thread by you and Versta because they are both trash arguments.

As for the last paragraph:



Stop denying what the Manga says son. The Manga states that Nagato was not mobile. And lol did Riker Slade hurt you? Talking about arguing like I live for this yet you came at me like your life depended on it because someone discredited your favorite characters. What a disgusting little fruitcake.
 

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Lmao, little man really said that Minato Rasengans the core. :lol I think your parents need to restrict your access to the PC so you can spend the time you are using to shit post to go back to school and maybe learn how not to be an idiot. :lol
 
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You obviously don't read the manga. Minato doesn't have to touch anything to warp it away. He has his space time barrier also. It just has to be within his barriers reach And It was big enough to warpthe kyuubis tbb. Touch... Lmfao if Mine to touched the tbb as you claim then he would have died before the fight against the obito even began. Itachi spams his magmata at CT core And It gets destroyed. If you argue that's not enough then mine to creates 2 clones which both use giant rasengans on the core before they proof away. Should be plenty. Itachi destroys any of nagato summons like he did in canon when it comes to shared vision. Gamabunta helps if need be. Nagato really doesn't stand a chance here. Minato and itachi win mid diff at best

Also...cut the bullshit about Edo nagato not being mobile. He was fully mobile the moment he sucked up bee's chakra and the panels CLEARLY showed it. Your SELECTIVE memory aint shit. He was negged by Itachi when he was FULL power AND FULLY mobile and you think he will beat these two? Laughable. Kid fayget is more like it. You argue like you live for this shit. You and riker should go and be **** buddies. Both yall *****s needs the others cockmeat sammich.
Lmao you never fail to make me laugh.
 

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1. It's also obvious what I meant. Go in and out. There's nothing hard about that.

2. See those trees at the left? Compare them to the rocks you see. So those trees, that are fought on with 10 man teams, are foot tall?

3. He gets tagged and he loses. Do I really need to find one out of 100 ways on how he gets tortured to death? Totsuka gg, Hiraishin gg, Amaterasu + Totsuka gg. Really all this fight needs is Amaterasu distraction and Hiraishin to finish it off. But I'm just debating this CT one because you guys believe so passionately that CT actually gets formed in time.

Shinra Tensei has 5 second interval. So if Naruto managed to throw make Rasengan and throw himself at Pain, Minato can't throw another wave of Kunais to kill him? Fuuton doesn't matter, even if he blocks Minato (which he doesn't really lol), Itachi will still be there to finish it off with Amaterasu and Totsuka. And how does Asura Path block ? :lol Come on bruh.

Seems like you're running out of arguments? Like I said, after CT Nagato gets destroyed.
I was actually getting convinced that Minato and Itachi take this from your argument, but then I realized something;

You're working on this assumption that Minato is going to be able to literally warp the core in the first place. Regardless of whether or not he can get there unharmed, how is Minato managing this?

The more mass the target has, the harder it is more Minato to warp. CT is literally a hyper-dense amount of matter with so much mass that it has its own gravity attractive things aggresively.

I actually agree with your point that Minato would be able to get to the core unharmed (as long as he makes his decisions within a fraction of a second), but there is no way in hell he is warping that amount of mass when he couldn't even manage something far less as an Edo Tensei AND with Kyuubi Chakra.
 

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@ Kid,

Minato doesn't need to throw a kunia, he's simply needs to tag the surrounding debris. As CT pulls the markings into the orb, Minato's chakra present, the rest is self explanatory.

If he were along, he'd die before doing this successfully.
 

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@ Kid,

Minato doesn't need to throw a kunia, he's simply needs to tag the surrounding debris. As CT pulls the markings into the orb, Minato's chakra present, the rest is self explanatory.

If he were along, he'd die before doing this successfully.
No Gurantee markings touch the orb directly, not to mention Nagato being a sensor could take out any marked debris with his chakra cannon if we want to get creative.
 

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No Gurantee markings touch the orb directly, not to mention Nagato being a sensor could take out any marked debris with his chakra cannon if we want to get creative.
I'm not fully convinced it'll need direct contact with the orb. As the debris piles together, it becomes one. If not, his goal would be to tag the debris being pulled first. Considering Minato's speed and having full Intel, I don't see that be an issue.

Nagato would be doing this while Itachi....stands back to watch? Lol
 

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@ Kid,

Minato doesn't need to throw a kunia, he's simply needs to tag the surrounding debris. As CT pulls the markings into the orb, Minato's chakra present, the rest is self explanatory.

If he were along, he'd die before doing this successfully.
Not how Hiraishin works either. Minato can only warp to or warp other people to tags. A tag isn't his chakra. Minato can only warp things that his actual body or chakra is touching.
 

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I don't see how CT is an issue when Minato just teleports out of the vicinity, we know he has markings set up everywhere for emergency reasons.

CT is avoided. The duo wins no doubt.
 

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I'm not fully convinced it'll need direct contact with the orb. As the debris piles together, it becomes one. If not, his goal would be to tag the debris being pulled first. Considering Minato's speed and having full Intel, I don't see that be an issue.

Nagato would be doing this while Itachi....stands back to watch? Lol

Why would Itachi not be being pulled in....

Not how Hiraishin works either. Minato can only warp to or warp other people to tags. A tag isn't his chakra. Minato can only warp things that his actual body or chakra is touching.
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