Hashirama powerful but overhyped

[Rikudou Tobi]

Itachi soloes him negg diff. Such fodder should be ashamed to show their face against a true hokage.

 

[lndra]

Hashimadz solos

 

[kiiro]

Yes. Hashirama loses to Minato, Obito, Madara Rinnegan, Naruto sagemode and kurama mode together, Itachi and maybe Tobirama.

 

[shelke]

Hashirama is the strongest non-Rikudou/Otsutsuki being.

All the ones you mentioned could not contend with EMS Madara, PS and 100% Kurama simultaneously and win. Your genjutsu argument is non-existent because not only did he "excel in all areas of shinobi combat" (having a feat of using a high level genjutsu himself), but did face Sharingan wielding Uchiha all his life. The power of a visual genjutsu has little relevance when the opposition is someone who's fought visual prowess day in and day out since childhood. Prevention is better than cure; Hashirama will know all the signs of someone trying to use visual genjutsu, and know how to avoid getting caught.

Correct.

 

[Nobel]

It is almost like OP failed on purpose, smh

 

[DHOH]

Yes. Hashirama loses to Minato, Obito, Madara Rinnegan, Naruto sagemode and kurama mode together, Itachi and maybe Tobirama.

What is wrong with you!?

 

[kiiro]

What is wrong with you!?

Butthurt to the true?

Hashirama cant touch Obito and cant do nothing to stop Obito get him in the kamui world. Madara Rinnegan no words need. Naruto Sage Mode and Kurama mode is even faster than Minato so Hashiram wont land a hit on him. If Hashirama doesnt attack with all he has in the beginning then Itachi can cast a genjutsu on him. Tobirama was on pair with EMS Madara so he can win against Hashirama and Minato, Hashirama wont hit him once.

 

[Uchihakil]

SM hashi is the strongest none rikudou enhanced xter in naruto (not including guy with 8 gates) well shisui is broken too, he stalemated with edo madara, nagato has no chance against hashi

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

SM hashi is the strongest none rikudou enhanced xter in naruto (not including guy with 8 gates) well shisui is broken too, he stalemated with edo madara, nagato has no chance against hashi

Fail again, you forget Nagato has the Gedo Statue, most of yall don't know much about anything NV related that's why you all think Hashirama wins vs everybody non rikudo and nothing is like that, you think because he beat Ems madara and Ems madara can bet such and such that that means Hashirama can too but you fail to use sound logic and ABC logic doesn't work here.

Nagato has 1 jutsu that defeats hashirama and any other shinobi that can't use s/t jutsu to get away. Which is summoning the Gedo Statue and syncing with it to bring forth that soul dragon which is an instant death of the oponent unless you have a s/t jutsu fast enough to get you away from the entire battle

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Butthurt to the true?

Hashirama cant touch Obito and cant do nothing to stop Obito get him in the kamui world. Madara Rinnegan no words need. Naruto Sage Mode and Kurama mode is even faster than Minato so Hashiram wont land a hit on him. If Hashirama doesnt attack with all he has in the beginning then Itachi can cast a genjutsu on him. Tobirama was on pair with EMS Madara so he can win against Hashirama and Minato, Hashirama wont hit him once.

Bsm Naruto isn't faster than ftg at best it's the same speed when naruto blitzes, lol you can't get faster than instant and BM with ftg is even faster acting than Bsm Naruto...

The rest is all fine

 

[UnknownJin]

are u trying to bash God of Shinobi? ...

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[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

are u trying to bash God of Shinobi? ...

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That's fine and all but he was called that because of how he dominated his era not the modern era, all shinobi in the modern era only know him as the god of shinobi off of hype not actual facts of seeing him in battle and he is only 1 Senju while Uchiha has sasuke madara obito itachi and Shi Sui that easily wreck the most powerful Senju which are Hashirama and Tobirama Neg diff

 

[Uchihakil]

Fail again, you forget Nagato has the Gedo Statue, most of yall don't know much about anything NV related that's why you all think Hashirama wins vs everybody non rikudo and nothing is like that, you think because he beat Ems madara and Ems madara can bet such and such that that means Hashirama can too but you fail to use sound logic and ABC logic doesn't work here.

Nagato has 1 jutsu that defeats hashirama and any other shinobi that can't use s/t jutsu to get away. Which is summoning the Gedo Statue and syncing with it to bring forth that soul dragon which is an instant death of the oponent unless you have a s/t jutsu fast enough to get you away from the entire battle

Yea you can tell me which is faster, myoujin mon or gedo soul dragon, myoujin mon pins and suppresses nagato's ass down (don't for get the same seals held down edo madara and the juubi)

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Yea you can tell me which is faster, myoujin mon or gedo soul dragon, myoujin mon pins and suppresses nagato's ass down (don't for get the same seals held down edo madara and the juubi)

Well juubi was only held down because the entire SA was attacking it and it was undergoing it's transformation. Again this is the over hype I was talking about you think to much of those mokuton seals because Hashirama had those same seals vs Ems madara with the kyuubi so why didn't he use them vs Madara and the kyuubi since they easily held down the juubi and eod madara??? You see how that works, that even further proves the pint the juubi was undergoing transformation which the manga showed but in this debate as well since the juubi is way more powerful than the kyuubi that was not under the mokuton seals...and FYI edo madara was under those seals but Hashirama was incapacitated even worst than Madara and the juubi since he was rendered immobile since madara had impaled him with several black rods. And madara and the juubi both were still able to use abilities like the juubi shedding to make juubi spawns and madara using rinne tensei...so it's not a ko jutsu just so you know as I have just proved...

Also the soul dragon instantly wrecked alot of shinobi within moments...also you fail to understand the difference between a huge monster(juubi) and a shinobi (madara) since you think the seals just caught madara whenever they use d like they are inescapable and they are not, first Hashirama immobilized madara with the mokuton dragons then he used the seal on him because if he would have just tried the seals from the start madara would have avoided them low diff...same for Nagato who would shinra tensei that shit away

 

[KidGamer65]

Put all those people together and Hashirama would still win let alone 1 on 1.

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Put all those people together and Hashirama would still win let alone 1 on 1.

Fail again it's like yall decide to ignore what the manga says...

Manga states nobody other those with the same kkg (sharingan) and blood as itachi can break tsukoyami...that specifically means only sasuke can break tsukoyami so how the **** can Hashirama break it moron???

He can't even avoid it cuz he doesn't know shit about itachi to even to know he has it nor has he ever faced ms genjutsu since the only genjutsu madara has ever shown in the manga has been 3 tomoe only and itachi as stated by Shikaku Nara and Ao is the only shinobi that can knead chakra for genjutsu without it being detectable to anyone...

Manga states Kotoamatsukami is the most powerful ocular jutsu and it cannot be broken nor defended against...

Manga Facts > fanism

 

[Uchihakil]

Well juubi was only held down because the entire SA was attacking it and it was undergoing it's transformation. Again this is the over hype I was talking about you think to much of those mokuton seals because Hashirama had those same seals vs Ems madara with the kyuubi so why didn't he use them vs Madara and the kyuubi since they easily held down the juubi and eod madara??? You see how that works, that even further proves the pint the juubi was undergoing transformation which the manga showed but in this debate as well since the juubi is way more powerful than the kyuubi that was not under the mokuton seals...and FYI edo madara was under those seals but Hashirama was incapacitated even worst than Madara and the juubi since he was rendered immobile since madara had impaled him with several black rods. And madara and the juubi both were still able to use abilities like the juubi shedding to make juubi spawns and madara using rinne tensei...so it's not a ko jutsu just so you know as I have just proved...

Also the soul dragon instantly wrecked alot of shinobi within moments...also you fail to understand the difference between a huge monster(juubi) and a shinobi (madara) since you think the seals just caught madara whenever they use d like they are inescapable and they are not, first Hashirama immobilized madara with the mokuton dragons then he used the seal on him because if he would have just tried the seals from the start madara would have avoided them low diff...same for Nagato who would shinra tensei that shit away[/QUOTE

You can't serious, him not using the seals on kurama meant he could'nt, it's like saying nagato not floating like deva means he can't levitate which is crap, those seals are ko seals if it can tag someone as strong as juubito, nagato aint got nothing on them, lemme say this again, edo madara >>> nagato and hashi still stalemated with him, as i said the only version of hashi nagato stands a chance against is base hashi

 

[NarutoX28]

Itachi will always be #1. No one can beat him.

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Nothing, but manga facts. Even Hashirama concedes to it. :bdpf:

 

[KidGamer65]

Fail again it's like yall decide to ignore what the manga says...

Manga states nobody other those with the same kkg (sharingan) and blood as itachi can break tsukoyami...that specifically means only sasuke can break tsukoyami so how the **** can Hashirama break it moron???

He can't even avoid it cuz he doesn't know shit about itachi to even to know he has it nor has he ever faced ms genjutsu since the only genjutsu madara has ever shown in the manga has been 3 tomoe only and itachi as stated by Shikaku Nara and Ao is the only shinobi that can knead chakra for genjutsu without it being detectable to anyone...

Manga states Kotoamatsukami is the most powerful ocular jutsu and it cannot be broken nor defended against...

Manga Facts > fanism

Lmao. This joke of a poster actually thinks I'm gonna waste time arguing with him. Funny.

 

[Wizard_Impressive]

hashi is king