Hashirama>Madara? Completely false with facts

[TheSages456]

Stop passing off your assumptions as facts, where are the tree roots on the rooftop where Hiruzuen solo'd? The trees are made from his chakra.

its your job to prove the negative but in doing so, you are arguing with kishi. you lose either way so its pointless. counter kishimotos databook entry on hashiramas chakra merely being the source and nothing more since you apparently know more about the manga than the author.

 

[Midday]

its your job to prove the negative but in doing so, you are arguing with kishi. you lose either way so its pointless. counter kishimotos databook entry on hashiramas chakra merely being the source and nothing more since you apparently know more about the manga than the author.

I've brought up the databook pages supporting my claim unlike yourself. How about you show me where those tree roots on the roof tops are?

 

[TheSages456]

Yeah, just like oil is just a oil.

kishimoto says that mokuton is life. kishi says that jiraiyas oil is chakra converted into oil. your arguments are ridiculously fallacious.

 

[TheSages456]

I've brought up the databook pages supporting my claim unlike yourself. How about you show me where those tree roots on the roof tops are?

you didnt post any databook entries that support your claim. i already reiterated kishis words which state that hashiramas chakra is just the source. take this up with kishi not me because your downplay is horrendous.

 

[Turson]

kishimoto says that mokuton is life. kishi says that jiraiyas oil is chakra converted into oil. your arguments are ridiculously fallacious.

And your way of "debating" is absolutely arrogant. Didnt your parents teach you how to behave?

Personally, I dont see a difference. In both cases shinobi is using his chakra to create something. And of course that Mokuton is alive, its trees afterall. Did you ever heard of flame or water that was alive?

 

[TheSages456]

And your way of "debating" is absolutely arrogant. Didnt your parents teach you how to behave?

Personally, I dont see a difference. In both cases shinobi is using his chakra to create something. And of course that Mokuton is alive, its trees afterall. Did you ever heard of flame or water that was alive?

are you home schooled or what? your reading comprehension is below the average 5th grader. i will be as 'arrogant'(even though im being perfectly reasonable and humble and your just crying about it because you're wrong) as i need to be because common sense obviously cant reach you.

hashiramas chakra is the source of life as in hashiramas chakra are the roots and this makes actual life grow.

jiraiya is spitting converted and kneaded chakra out of his mouth.

 

[Turson]

are you home schooled or what? your reading comprehension is below the average 5th grader. i will be as 'arrogant'(even though im being perfectly reasonable and humble and your just crying about it because you're wrong) as i need to be because common sense obviously cant reach you.

You see? Arrogance at its finest. Was I home schooled? No, I just like to respect people and receive the same thing in exchange.

 

[TheSages456]

You see? Arrogance at its finest. Was I home schooled? No, I just like to respect people and receive the same thing in exchange.

im not even being arrogant. you cant handle being wrong and when corrected, you spew this mess like someone is abusing you. quit this nonsense.

 

[Turson]

im not even being arrogant. you cant handle being wrong and when corrected, you spew this mess like someone is abusing you. quit this nonsense.

Nah, its not about me being right or wrong, its about your poor behaviour. Believe me, debating without such statements

your downplay is horrendous

your arguments are ridiculously fallacious.

because common sense obviously cant reach you

...is completely possible. Words like this arent going to make me agreeing with you, quite the opposite, actually. Learn how to respect others and then debate, poor manners wont get you anywhere. Cheers.

 

[shelke]

Hashirama and Madara fought many wars and no battle was a victory for anyone, which means they were equals.

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So it's a false notion that Hashirama is more powerful than Madara. How did he win that last faithful battle is a mystery. We need more proof.

 

[Strict]

Hashirama > EMS Madara + Kurama. And, by going off of Madara's own words and simple logic, Hashirama > Edo Madara.

@bolded, for the simply reason Hashirama could took control over the nine tails. Hashirama himself mentioned in a chipped state, that Kyuubis power was incredible and should be banished. So who actually thinks that Hashirama beat the Kyuubi? And who particularly thinks Hashirama fought the Kyuubi along with Madaras full power. It's just common sense that the perfect Susanoos usage happaned after Madara used Kyuubi and lost control.

 

[SadSasuke]

Edo Madara wins.
Even though I wish the normal Madara was as much as strong as Hashirama U_U

 

[razinzell]

Hashirama>Madara

Edo Madara>Hashirama

Edo hashirama>Edo Madara

 

[Unorthodox]

Hashirama>Madara

Edo Madara>Hashirama

Edo hashirama>Edo Madara

no edo hashirama has no sealing tech nor does he wins he lost to old hiruzen

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

no edo hashirama has no sealing tech nor does he wins he lost to old hiruzen

Lol. It was Orochimaru's incomplet edo tensei.

 

[UchihaInza]

hashirama and madara fought over 3 times and madara always lost i hate the fact to but its the truth read the manga :hypertobi:

 

[Unorthodox]

current madara wins