Hashirama and Tobirama were at full power
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Lawl, you can't even troll properly. If their emotions are not suppressed, the Edo Tensei can choose not to fight :/ Dispersing happens when the soul is set free because something which was binding them to the world was overcome you tool. Hashirama and Tobirama did not want to fight, so Orochimaru removed their free will and took control over them. Fail response is a fail.
Yes they were, but they never got a chance to use their full powers.
Oro was just Toying with hiruzen, So were his edo's, Oro would of won easily if he had gone at it with full power.
He underestimated Old hiruzen and he payed the price by losing his arms and his Edo kages.
I doubt even prime hiruzen can take on both senju brothers at once.
Oro was just Toying with hiruzen, So were his edo's, Oro would of won easily if he had gone at it with full power.
He underestimated Old hiruzen and he payed the price by losing his arms and his Edo kages.
I doubt even prime hiruzen can take on both senju brothers at once.
SatchiZurake
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How bout that when he was in the genjutsu Orochimaru could have stabbed him through like he did the Kazekage, but instead decided to have his former senseis kick him around a little bit longer?
Drakengard
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Based on Orochimaru's words and actions.. he seemed to be toying with Hiruzen more than anything. With 2 Edo Hokages on his side, he could afford to be cocky. This ended up being a mistake however, since Hiruzen had a forbidden jutsu that quote on quote even he didn't know about. This, plus the obvious display of the Will of Fire in action, was the reason that Hiruzen won the fight. Doesn't have to be any harder than that >_>
youralltrolls
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Itachi and Nagato fought with their emotions not suppressed along with asuma and dan.
Bijuu Kage
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Itachi escaped Kabuto's control with Kotoamatsukami :/
Nagato did have his emotions suppressed:
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Kabuto can control people's bodies without suppressing their personalities. Problem is, some people's will is strong enough to overcome that - full control is needed.
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Unorthodox
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Yeah i was wondering and i always look back on that fight with two options:
1. Hashirama was fighting it so that he wasnt completely controlled and fighting at his full petential
2. Kishi didnt know that Hashirama was going to be such great and legendary shinobi that early in the series
1. Hashirama was fighting it so that he wasnt completely controlled and fighting at his full petential
2. Kishi didnt know that Hashirama was going to be such great and legendary shinobi that early in the series
youralltrolls
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Explain Asuma and Dan.
As a matter of fact, Hashirama says before the tag is even put in that they have to fight against him.
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youralltrolls
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I think kishi decided to make hashirama seem godly but he is always going to be remember as getting beaten by a 69 year old man while having full access to his powers according to Kabuto.
Kabuto can control people's bodies without suppressing their personalities. Problem is, some people's will is strong enough to overcome that - full control is needed.
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Lol, you'd like to ignore the tag (to control them) which Orochimaru put into the Hokage's heads, wouldn't you? Honestly, have you been reading at all?
youralltrolls
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The tag isn't put in their head until after he says they are forced to fight against him.
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Anything Kabuto can do with Edo Tensei, orochimaru is able too as well in terms of control. The manga says Orochimaru perfected it and that they can use all their abilities. Keep on ignoring the manga.
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Because they knew Orochimaru was about to take control of them - Tobirama was the one who invented the jutsu for crying out loud. Your reading comprehension fails.
LMAO. What is this? Of course they retain all their abilities. But while Orochimaru has full control over them, he cannot possibly use them so that they're fighting at the same level of their autonomous forms. You think Orochimaru controlling Hashirama = The one which fought Madara + Kyuubi? I think you've even failed in comprehending what people in this thread have actually said. The mere fact that Flower tree world, S/T ninjutsu and Mokuton Kage Bunshin were not used should allow for even the pre-school readers to understand that Orochimaru did not use them to their MAX capabilities.
youralltrolls
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The manga states they retained all their abilities and orochimaru had full control. Your now just making assumptions. Keep trying but your argument has no facts to stand on.
youralltrolls
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You just have no real argument. Its not like you provided any facts that disproved me. You simply made yourself look stupid.
