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AnimusOra

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Yamamoto is above Kenpachi from what we have seen so far. The mere activation of his bankai starts destroying all of seretei abd the rest of the worlds after that. Kenpachi couldnt survive something like that
 

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You mean the 8th espanda and no he was not the fastest espanda (sonido). Ulquiorra and Starks were faster then him by a MILE!!!!!!!!
Grimmjow and Hallibel have the speed feats to argue and win the argument that their faster.

Here's the thing I think people forget about speed feats. There's a difference between overall speed and speed techniques. Cloning/after-images is a speed technique, it's not indicative of overall speed. The fastest characters in Bleach: Aizen, Ichigo, Yama, Shunsui, Starks, Ulquiorra, all have amazing speed feats; but no cloning/after-image techniques. Why? Cloning/after-image is more of a technique, bot indicting overall speed.



Yama could do that to almost everybody. Did you see his bankai? I'm starting to feel like there was so many plot-holes, Yama should have gone bankai against Aizen when he had him cornered. But I guess Wonderwise would have interfered regardless. Yama just stood there against Juha Bach, Bach didn't speed blitz him. He just accepted his death.

Yea 8th espada..i'd probaly put ulquiorra speed over his but not starkk or any other espada..Grimmjow an halibel got what speed feats? She could not even catch hitsugiya..

Yea you need a good amount of speed to pull off the tec an it can come in handy in this fight..an after seeing renji an rukia upgrade I can't imagin kyoraku being stronger than Byakuya now.
 

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Yea 8th espada..i'd probaly put ulquiorra speed over his but not starkk or any other espada..Grimmjow an halibel got what speed feats? She could not even catch hitsugiya..

Yea you need a good amount of speed to pull off the tec an it can come in handy in this fight..an after seeing renji an rukia upgrade I can't imagin kyoraku being stronger than Byakuya now.

Starks showed up between Ichigo and Zaraki held Ohinme (forgot how to spell her name) talked to them while their coming at him and leaves with her; none of them tried to follow because his sonido was that fast.
@Bold: Not this agreeing, but it doesn't indicate overall speed. I think you agree.
@Underlined: Looking at your avatar, don't you think you might be alittle bias. I think byakuya will be the 3rd or 4th strongest captain.
We can debate it, but we're going to have too see how it plays out.
 

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Starks showed up between Ichigo and Zaraki held Ohinme (forgot how to spell her name) talked to them while their coming at him and leaves with her; none of them tried to follow because his sonido was that fast.
@Bold: Not this agreeing, but it doesn't indicate overall speed. I think you agree.
@Underlined: Looking at your avatar, don't you think you might be alittle bias. I think byakuya will be the 3rd or 4th strongest captain.
We can debate it, but we're going to have too see how it plays out.

Kenpachi is slow an not known for speed but yet him an ichigo arrive at the same time trying to hit stark meaning ichigo did not even use full speed he did not even try to flash step.

Yea but its still does somewhat I see what ur saying.

Naw not being bias just saying that royal guard stuff is no joke, kyoraku bankai being super haxxed is the only way he will be stronger than Byakuya by going off of ukitake words I guess it will be but yea lets wait an see.
 
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