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exactly. There are few exceptions, exceptions that require powerful mediums that aren't widely available. So for you to know where your opponent is, indefinitely be it through the standard seeing them visually, sensing their chakra, hearing them with enhanced hearing or some other mode of sensory that can indefinately tell you where they are, you need that information in order to cast genjutsu.
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Elemental Genjutsu that covered the area and expanded the range. However, those can only be made by a select group of people and is closed off to the general public. They're not as OP as you think but they're far from ordinary standards and require an entirely different set of rules for breaking them which I won't be getting into with this training. Any other questions?
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Well there isn't much else on the others aside from sound which is what I wanted to get into. There are different mediums of genjutsu as I said before. Through touch, smell, sight, taste (kinda weird but Lili is trying), and sound. These mediums essentially use the respective sense to induce genjutsu. We could go into depth about specific ones later if you'd like but the key here is sound.
Sound genjutsu, which is restricted to users who can learn Sound Release, are especially strong and sought after because of the speed by which they travel and also how unique they are. There is specifically one aspect that I like about Sound genjutsu and it relates to the Uchiha clan and their eyes. Do you remember how I spoke about the Uchiha's method of combating against genjutsu?
Sound genjutsu, which is restricted to users who can learn Sound Release, are especially strong and sought after because of the speed by which they travel and also how unique they are. There is specifically one aspect that I like about Sound genjutsu and it relates to the Uchiha clan and their eyes. Do you remember how I spoke about the Uchiha's method of combating against genjutsu?
Yes, that Uchihas can see throught illusions up to the rank of their eyes, 1 tomoe being D-rank, 2 being C-rank, 3 being B-rank, MS being A-rank and EMS S-rank, the Uchihas can see the genjutsu coming to them from the microwaves of sound.
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That's incorrect. An Uchiha and other dojutsu users do not see the chakra coming toward them, they notice the disruption of chakra in their own system which only comes from when they are specifically focusing on their body. Nevertheless even IF an Uchiha could see sound waves, do you think they'd be capable of seeing and reacting faster than sound? It wouldn't make sense for them to.
Now then, you have a common misconception which most people have had in the past. It is the very same reason people with Byakugan thought that they were immune to genjutsu or at least immune to being caught off guard by subtle genjutsu because they could "See the chakra coming" which is not the case. An Uchiha has the ability to see through/pierce through visual genjutsu. What that means is their eyes can see through strong visual genjutsu that affects them because their eyes are more perceptive to genjutsu and therefore they can get out of it that way (as you listed the chart per rank of tome).
With me explaining this to you, do you think you can explain to me how sound genjutsu is advantageous against even the Sharingan?
Now then, you have a common misconception which most people have had in the past. It is the very same reason people with Byakugan thought that they were immune to genjutsu or at least immune to being caught off guard by subtle genjutsu because they could "See the chakra coming" which is not the case. An Uchiha has the ability to see through/pierce through visual genjutsu. What that means is their eyes can see through strong visual genjutsu that affects them because their eyes are more perceptive to genjutsu and therefore they can get out of it that way (as you listed the chart per rank of tome).
With me explaining this to you, do you think you can explain to me how sound genjutsu is advantageous against even the Sharingan?
What? I really just looked at a past post of yours...
But anyway, sound genjutsu is strong against Uchihas because of, the chakra can't be seen by the Uchihas, sound genjutsu, could be used without the Uchiha even hearing it, because there are waves that the ear can't hear, but they can still affect the Uchiha because they're still infusing the chakra to make the genjutsu, the Uchiha won't notice that and won't know he is in a genjutsu, the other types are more visible, so the Uchiha could confirm he/she is in a genjutsu by checking his chakra flow, with Sound genjutsu, he probaly won't notice anything
But anyway, sound genjutsu is strong against Uchihas because of, the chakra can't be seen by the Uchihas, sound genjutsu, could be used without the Uchiha even hearing it, because there are waves that the ear can't hear, but they can still affect the Uchiha because they're still infusing the chakra to make the genjutsu, the Uchiha won't notice that and won't know he is in a genjutsu, the other types are more visible, so the Uchiha could confirm he/she is in a genjutsu by checking his chakra flow, with Sound genjutsu, he probaly won't notice anything
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No you're simply misunderstanding. I will make it simple and explain to you normal genjutsu vs. sound genjutsu and the relationship it would have regarding the Uchiha.
Normal genjutsu works through the user infusing chakra sending that chakra to their opponent. This happens usually through the field of hand seals or sometimes gestures or what have you. However genjutsu does not travel in a visible spectrum as one might think. If you look at it this way:
A-------------C
Gen(A)
Genjutsu travels directly from A to C after activation as follows
A--------------C
--------------Gen(A)
Genjutsu does not travel from A to C in a spectrum of chakra that can be seen via sensory as follows
A--------------C
B-------------Gen(A)
So in no situation can the chakra from a normal genjutsu be seen by the opponent traveling toward them because it does not travel it immediately goes from Point A to point C and upon activation. Normal genjutsu encompasses this. There is the activation and completion and then there are the effects that happen upon the target. Uchiha have the ability to see past the illusion and pierce it. Again, what this means is the falsehoods of the illusion do not fool the enhanced vision of the Sharingan which is especially strong in spiritual or Yin based qualities which is the realm of genjutsu. This only happens, however, for genjutsu with visual; things that affect your vision. If the jutsu has no visual affect, meaning it affects one of the other four senses and not vision then it cannot be broken by an Uchiha with their eyes. Nevertheless an Uchiha can still see their chakra if they believe and have reason to suspect they are under a genjutsu. No matter what the affects of the genjutsu, your chakra system can be used as a validation source to see if you are under one or not if you have the capabilities to detect it.
Sound genjutsu and other genjutsu that use mediums do travel in a distinctive path of chakra. However this does not mean that one can "see" or "detect" the genjutsu heading towards them If you look at my last picture where Genjutsu travels through a chakra spectrum, that is how techniques like sound genjutsu and other medium based genjutsu work. When I say medium genjutsu I mean any form of alternative way of casting genjutsu through the five senses. If you want to think of it this way, in the last picture Genjutsu A travels along chakra spectrum B to get to C. Now, while a Sharingan or sensor can determine that there is chakra that does not mean that they 1) know the medium (immediately anyway) and 2) that they know the chakra can induce genjutsu. If somebody were to use a Sound Genjutsu to an ordinary sensor they would just be using sound and chakra to create ninjutsu. THe same goes for a Dojutsu. However the dojutsu and sensor do not see the sound waves. Also once the genjutsu has taken affect since the genjutsu is a produced of the manipulated medium unless the medium is temporary (meaning isn't continuous) it cannot be broken by normal means. Sound genjutsu no matter the state of continuous or temporary cannot be seen through since it is not a visual genjutsu but one that travels along an entirely different spectrum. If it is continuous then the medium needs to be disturbed or broken in order for one to be able to break the genjutsu period.
Does this make any sense?
Normal genjutsu works through the user infusing chakra sending that chakra to their opponent. This happens usually through the field of hand seals or sometimes gestures or what have you. However genjutsu does not travel in a visible spectrum as one might think. If you look at it this way:
A-------------C
Gen(A)
Genjutsu travels directly from A to C after activation as follows
A--------------C
--------------Gen(A)
Genjutsu does not travel from A to C in a spectrum of chakra that can be seen via sensory as follows
A--------------C
B-------------Gen(A)
So in no situation can the chakra from a normal genjutsu be seen by the opponent traveling toward them because it does not travel it immediately goes from Point A to point C and upon activation. Normal genjutsu encompasses this. There is the activation and completion and then there are the effects that happen upon the target. Uchiha have the ability to see past the illusion and pierce it. Again, what this means is the falsehoods of the illusion do not fool the enhanced vision of the Sharingan which is especially strong in spiritual or Yin based qualities which is the realm of genjutsu. This only happens, however, for genjutsu with visual; things that affect your vision. If the jutsu has no visual affect, meaning it affects one of the other four senses and not vision then it cannot be broken by an Uchiha with their eyes. Nevertheless an Uchiha can still see their chakra if they believe and have reason to suspect they are under a genjutsu. No matter what the affects of the genjutsu, your chakra system can be used as a validation source to see if you are under one or not if you have the capabilities to detect it.
Sound genjutsu and other genjutsu that use mediums do travel in a distinctive path of chakra. However this does not mean that one can "see" or "detect" the genjutsu heading towards them If you look at my last picture where Genjutsu travels through a chakra spectrum, that is how techniques like sound genjutsu and other medium based genjutsu work. When I say medium genjutsu I mean any form of alternative way of casting genjutsu through the five senses. If you want to think of it this way, in the last picture Genjutsu A travels along chakra spectrum B to get to C. Now, while a Sharingan or sensor can determine that there is chakra that does not mean that they 1) know the medium (immediately anyway) and 2) that they know the chakra can induce genjutsu. If somebody were to use a Sound Genjutsu to an ordinary sensor they would just be using sound and chakra to create ninjutsu. THe same goes for a Dojutsu. However the dojutsu and sensor do not see the sound waves. Also once the genjutsu has taken affect since the genjutsu is a produced of the manipulated medium unless the medium is temporary (meaning isn't continuous) it cannot be broken by normal means. Sound genjutsu no matter the state of continuous or temporary cannot be seen through since it is not a visual genjutsu but one that travels along an entirely different spectrum. If it is continuous then the medium needs to be disturbed or broken in order for one to be able to break the genjutsu period.
Does this make any sense?
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Just stop with the waves -_-
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Next order of business is Layering. I'm just going to give you the quiz to see if I even need to go over this in depth. I shouldn't have to considering there's an answer to every question on the base already.
1) When layering which technique comes first Weakest rank or Strongest rank? Explain
2) When layering, aside from the rank order, what condition must be met for the genjutsu layer to be successful?
3) When Layering you can only Layer two genjutsu at a time. True or False?
4) When Breaking a multi-layered genjutsu is it possible to break all of them at the same time? Explain why or why not.
5) I cast a B-rank genjutsu on you to make you feel as though you were burning in the pit of hell and then I follow up by casting an A-rank genjutsu that makes you see white feathers falling all around you in a calm serine atmosphere which makes you fall asleep. What will happen?
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Next order of business is Layering. I'm just going to give you the quiz to see if I even need to go over this in depth. I shouldn't have to considering there's an answer to every question on the base already.
1) When layering which technique comes first Weakest rank or Strongest rank? Explain
2) When layering, aside from the rank order, what condition must be met for the genjutsu layer to be successful?
3) When Layering you can only Layer two genjutsu at a time. True or False?
4) When Breaking a multi-layered genjutsu is it possible to break all of them at the same time? Explain why or why not.
5) I cast a B-rank genjutsu on you to make you feel as though you were burning in the pit of hell and then I follow up by casting an A-rank genjutsu that makes you see white feathers falling all around you in a calm serine atmosphere which makes you fall asleep. What will happen?
Sorry for being so dumb
1. The strongest I think as if the person being put in the genjutsu will first have to break through the weaker one first
2. The rank.
3. False. Can be done with more than two.
4. It's not possible, as the effect to release the genjutsu will only work on the one that is taking place, then after the first is released, the second will take place.
5. I think I'll fall asleep as the second one is stronger than the first one
Do you want to redo? I'll let you redo 2 questions if you want