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Xylon's posts: I do agree at the fact that if gay marriage is allowed more gay or lesbians that are currently hiding their choice of being like that would appear on the map. This would cause a huge problem if this was about the population. Not to offend anyone, and just like Xylon said, but to be gay is actually and path that isn't supposed to be taken. To put it harshly, it's a choice that you made like you made a choice to steal money out of a register. Love is what counts mostly so it's mostly overlooked at corruption, but in reality you did corrupt your sexual integrity.

Now don't get me wrong, being straight isn't the way better way of life or anything, it's just that look at the past. Maybe people get humiliated, hurt, attacked, and even killed by just being gay. I do adore their courage, but at the same time it is their fault due to people hating difference and change. They will always be attacked and always considered a problem.

shonenvan's posts: The way you explained how love works seems to be the general and correct idea. No one, well I would hope not, thinks of a single mother/father less than a normal family. In fact most people would look up to them more than other 2 parent families.

Scary Yamato posts: Thank you ^^ Also about the part of thinking people are born gay. There was always speculation that people would be born gay at times due to the fact that all babies start as a female regardless of what they will be at the time of birth. When this was discovered they believe that is how it is, but after many tests and follow up questions of how their life were (read it somewhere i know it) they decided this didn't have enough evidence to be true.

People are influenced in their sexual life just like they are influenced in mannerisms. People will either copy, do the opposite, or ignore both depending on the popularity/risk involved. This grand ultimate choice of being straight or gay is decided on many things like fear, love, location, man to woman ratio, lust, and even mistake in teaching.

Lord Danzo's post: I do agree that it is up to the church, well technically regardless of my opinion it truly is up to them, and the state laws should allow such a union of two people. Though it really wouldn't happen. Most, or maybe all, religions cast out the filth that is of the gays. No offense to anyone that is gay, but all religions in it's roots hate your corrupted choice in sexuality since it shows weakness towards the god(s).

About the gay or lesbian couples that are together with a child, adopted or born by having donated sperm/egg, I believe it's practically the same for the child up to a certain age of understanding. First it's about the tools, fathers are actually under the requirements to be able to raise a child. Mothers can give their child breast milk and have the inner ability of nurturing. Men are considered hunters or protectors of the family and do not have the same outlook in raising a child regardless of sexual orientation. After a while of raising a child, the teens mostly, this type of family can cause many social problems for the child that can lead into many horrible situations. From humiliation and courage to face the year ahead of him or her, to even suicide for the sheer fact they are threaten or are different from what his or her parents are.

The lowered population would also help the world, but at the same time it would hurt it if it persists. I wasn't just talking about a timeline of allowing this form of life live peacefully in society. I was considering it to continue from here on out, so regardless of how much time it would actually take to make the population lower to dangerous levels; it will eventually get there.

TL;DR

Xylon: Agreed and in that blocked of text I explained my idea or how most people would think of what gay is.

shonenvan: Agreeing about the aspect of family love and how families outlooks are.

Scary Yamato: A thank you and some info about the born being gay idea.

Lord Danzo: Talking about the lowering population, the same *** parent families, and the church vs state allowance of gay marriage with a bit of religious stuff that I believe and heard of through talking to people of that religion.
 

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Marriage should be about love, commitment, trust and faithfulness. but should be between male and female. romantic relationships themselves should be between male and female.

"follow your heart", "do what makes you happy"
well if in your heart is to molest small children and that makes you happy should one "follow their hearts" or "do what makes them happy"?

dont be suprised if gay marriage was ever legalized or a social exceptance than people would try to push foward adult and children relationships.
 

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Everyone has a right to think what they want. Be it that gays shouldn't marry or they should but the thing is that to stop one set of people(gays) and letting another (straight) is just wrong, and so is condemning them because of a book (the bible) that was written by man not god....witch means it is subject to personal prospective.....

So in short I don't care if gays or straights get married....but marriage isn't all its cracked up to be....that's just my opinion on the matter do with it what u will
 

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I see your logic. You are saying homosexuality is a choice. I always thought people were born that way.
I read the 10% of sheep are born gay.... somewhere...

And maybe they are born gay?
I have a lot of Gay/lesbian friend's Most have always like the same ***, but I do know some who chose it as well..
 
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As recently as 40 years ago, interracial couples could not marry. That kind of ignorance and racism is a horrible blemish on our nation's history. Today, we shudder at such injustice and cannot imagine condoning such a law. Denying homosexuals the right to marry those they love signifies a harsh parallel to that unenlightened time of our past.

the burden of proof is on opponents to gay adoption/marriage/homosexuality in general. american society is founded on the notion of negative liberty (as posited by John Locke), which states basically that the limits of one person's freedoms is only defined by how those freedoms infringe (or not) on other peoples' freedoms. gays to not have to justify what they want or do; conservatives must give good reasons why they should not be allowed to. religion is not a suitable basis for such a reason, because religious doctrine does not direct law in america (so sayeth the separation of church and state). beyond that, there is no scientific (social, physiological, or otherwise) evidence that supports any claim that there is anything wrong with homosexuality, including gays rights to adoption and marriage. when it comes down to it, one always finds conservatives' arguments are predicated not on any logical thought process, but rather on prejudice (disgust, fear, discomfort, whatever). It always comes back to that. All of their logic is specious. they start with a prejudice, and then just search for arguments that superficially support it. that is no way to pursue truth, or a path towards a better society.

So...in reference to marriage specifically, marriage is actually not a bond under God (not necessarily anyways, and certainly not for atheists/agnostics). Rather it is a legal contract recognized by the American courts. Since the judicial process should be separate from religious doctrine, why should a religious position have any bearing on that civil process? Besides, not all religions even oppose gay marriage or homosexuality in general. When the Mormon Church tried to represent all of religion against the gay activists in Hawaii, a Buddhist sect stepped in and reminded them it has more members then them in Hawaii, and has no problem with same-*** marriage.

Finally, the notion that it is unnatural is fallacious. Roughly 1/3 of known species in the world exhibit gay/bisexual behavior, including same-*** coupling for life. Ask an animal behaviorist.​
We are humans not animals.
God created man and woman for each other ... if God want homosexuality why there was Adam and Eva and no Adam and Adam or Eva and Eva ...
Its against nature.
But again love does not make sense so if two guys or two chicks love each other so be it ... but I still dont find it to be right.
 
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Marriage should be about love, commitment, trust and faithfulness. but should be between male and female. romantic relationships themselves should be between male and female.

"follow your heart", "do what makes you happy"
well if in your heart is to molest small children and that makes you happy should one "follow their hearts" or "do what makes them happy"?

dont be suprised if gay marriage was ever legalized or a social exceptance than people would try to push foward adult and children relationships.
Agree
 

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We are humans not animals.
God created man and woman for each other ... if God want homosexuality why there was Adam and Eva and no Adam and Adam or Eva and Eva ...
Its against nature.
But again love does not make sense so if two guys or two chicks love each other so be it ... but I still dont find it to be right.
well since you believe in god and that he created every thing
then you should believe that he made homosexual ppl too
cuz if he had a prob with it then they wouldn`t even exist right??


Marriage should be about love, commitment, trust and faithfulness. but should be between male and female. romantic relationships themselves should be between male and female.

"follow your heart", "do what makes you happy"
well if in your heart is to molest small children and that makes you happy should one "follow their hearts" or "do what makes them happy"?

dont be suprised if gay marriage was ever legalized or a social exceptance than people would try to push foward adult and children relationships.
that is not the same at all
cuz in gay marriage
it`s a relationship between two adults who can decide what`s best 4 them both
while in adult/children relationship the child is forced or maybe manipulated and that`s why it`s wrong
 
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Yeah ... But I believe homosexuality is from Devil not from God.
With your logic God created illness,death and everything evil that exist.
No, God gave to us free will so he dont created homosexual people, those people are homosexual because they want to.
Its just bad thing.
Devil whispers to us to make bad things and its up to us if we will listen to him or to God and what from these two we choose is up to our own free will.
Homosexual people need to cure themselves ... not by doctors but by God.
 

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Yeah ... But I believe homosexuality is from Devil not from God.
With your logic God created illness,death and everything evil that exist.
No, God gave to us free will so he dont created homosexual people, those people are homosexual because they want to.
Its just bad thing.
Devil whispers to us to make bad things and its up to us if we will listen to him or to God and what from these two we choose is up to our own free will.
Homosexual people need to cure themselves ... not by doctors but by God.
lol you are really funny
i mean you are kidding right??
yup god did create illness, ( especially )death and everything else
and btw homosexuality isn`t a pure mental thing
there are hormones and other physical stuff that cause it
so actually they don`t choose it out of nowhere they`re born with it
and it`s not a sickness so they would have to go cure themselves
 

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I jsut wanna say thank you to all the people that haev commented on this thread it warms my heart to hear what you all of to say it also saddens me that someone would post something as idotic as this on here

Yeah ... But I believe homosexuality is from Devil not from God.
With your logic God created illness,death and everything evil that exist.
No, God gave to us free will so he dont created homosexual people, those people are homosexual because they want to.
Its just bad thing.
Devil whispers to us to make bad things and its up to us if we will listen to him or to God and what from these two we choose is up to our own free will.
Homosexual people need to cure themselves ... not by doctors but by God.
I dont get you what human would want to be discriminated against for their whole life be stripped of their rights picked on teased humiliated and go through living hell be told you can never be like everyone else and not have a "proper" family I am a Out and Proud Homosexual and I will say this IT IS NOT A F***ING CHOICE DO NOT EVER WRITE THIS BULLS*IT ON HERE or on any other post about homosexuality.
 

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to my surprise NB is very gay tolerant
not that it is tolerant.....no rules were laid down specifically to inhibit them from joining....aside from that, the right to post here is not in reference to sexual orientation....this is a forum that invites anyone who is in his proper mind to post something that he thinks need to be heard by the somebody else...and i am not taking the side of the third *** (though there is no such thing as third *** in real world) as well. mine is of pure opinion...LOL
 

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i jsut wanna say thank you to all the people that haev commented on this thread it warms my heart to hear what you all of to say it also saddens me that someone would post something as idotic as this on here



i dont get you what human would want to be discriminated against for their whole life be stripped of their rights picked on teased humiliated and go through living hell be told you can never be like everyone else and not have a "proper" family i am a out and proud homosexual and i will say this it is not a f***ing choice do not ever write this bulls*it on here or on any other post about homosexuality.
he is just speaking of his thoughts. And what makes you angry????lol...being a gay is a choice...you were not born like that....you were born either a male or a female...
 

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This really comes down to two things. Do you believe being gay is a choice or something you are born with and do you have a belief that says gay is or isn't correct. For me, I think it is something people are born with and I do not follow any particular religion so I see nothing wrong with gay marriage. One of my best friends is in a gay relationship and if they chose to marry I would support them.

However, if there are other reasons people believe one way or another I would be very interested to hear them. (this does not mean I am uninterested in the first two reasons and that I think they are unimportant. Just to see if there are other reasons people feel one way or another on this)
 
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