Gai could only touch Ay if uses 8 gate

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We know this because Ay Dodged things like Amaterasu. Gai doesn't really have feats like that
 

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Lies, the only set back is Ay's Lightning Release.

Take that away he gets negged, Gai only needs the first 4 Gates to beat him.
 
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Here's how the naruto manga works:

Pick a character hype them up. Show them being beaten two scans after they were supposedly "formidable" or "unbeatable" let people get rustled. Pick a prodigy, hype them up, let people wank them, then nerf the character, and then let them be defeated by things regular characters could have avoided. In other words it's difficult to really pin down who could overly defeat who because of the thousands of plot holes that still haven't been answered.

O.T: I agree
 

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This is Base Ay's punch

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unless he goes straight to gate 4 off the bat then he'sgonna be seriosly injured

And? This is Tsunades base finger (better then any feat of Ay's) but does she beat him? No




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Anyway: Guy is Naturally faster then Ay, Ay's lighting armor enhances his speed so none of those BASE PUNCHES are landing but at the end of the day Gai's taijutsu is unsurpassed.
 
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Yep. that's what the manga shows


This is Base Ay's punch

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unless he goes straight to gate 4 off the bat then he'sgonna be seriosly injured

I was disagreeing with you.

And second have you seen Guy's base punching strength?! He is a monster not to mention Ay got beat up by base Madara with the help of the other kage meanwhile Guy was holding his own against Madara so your entire thread is already invalid due to this cannon fact.:hint:
 

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And? This is Tsunades base finger (better then any feat of Ay's) but does she beat him? No




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Ay is faster than tsunade so you don't really have a point
 

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Ay is faster than tsunade so you don't really have a point

My point stands, your counter to my disagreement was to post a scan of Ay's base strength as if that the determining factor and speed wasn't so I kindly posted a scan of Tsunades base strength using finger to show you how dismissive your counter was. Anyway this really isn't an argument, Gai doesn't need all 8 gates to beat Ay.

He only needs to go up to the Gate Of Pain.
 

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Regardless of what you're trying to make people understand. You yourself admitted G-dog could touch A-dog.
 

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I was disagreeing with you.

And second have you seen Guy's base punching strength?! He is a monster not to mention Ay got beat up by base Madara with the help of the other kage meanwhile Guy was holding his own against Madara so your entire thread is already invalid due to this cannon fact.:hint:

Gai's punching base strength means nothign here lol Guy was holding his own against Madara in 7th and 8th gates so what you're saying makes no sense. read the title. If you're going to disagree atleast make sense :lol
 

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gai can't be ay nor touch unless he's 8 gates this 100% facts
 

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My point stands, your counter to my disagreement was to post a scan of Ay's base strength as if that the determining factor and speed wasn't so I kindly posted a scan of Tsunades base strength using finger to show you how dismissive your counter was. Anyway this really isn't an argument, Gai doesn't need all 8 gates to beat Ay.

He only needs to go up to the Gate Of Pain.

It is a determining factor because Gai can't survive a puch like that withou dealing heavy damage.
-1 Tsunades strength has nothing to do with her beating Ay or Gai (She can't beat either)
-2 Gai needs to go all out to beat Ay because again, he can't touch him unless he goes all 8
-3 you really haven't countered anything and have yet to prove what your saying, but really you can't :lol

Regardless of what you're trying to make people understand. You yourself admitted G-dog could touch A-dog.

Could touch or be touched? lol. learn to read. I said if Gai tries to engage even a Base Ay before going to high gate level he's going to be severly wounded. If Ay uses his shroud he isn't touching him unless he goes all 8.
 

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At 7 gate he was able to blitz juubi Madara wtf can ay do who couldn't hurt regular Madara and was even made faster by oohnoki . Ay isn't strong either tsunade has more strength gain in 6th gate at most destroys him no diff
 
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