Gadien Sasuke(no sage chakra) VS BSM Minato

[Unorthodox]

Unorthodox just admit you lost this one Take the L and move on atleast you didn't say Manda solos L0l

Ill admit i lost when it can be proven also when you going to admit Unorthodox > Beans?

@kidgamer you are saying sasuke doesnt have the thrust speed to hit minato after he uses ameno but what if he combines that with universal pull? Im pretty sure he would get minato if he combined the two techs.
Care to disagree?

Nice combo did not think of that.

 

[KidGamer65]

@kidgamer you are saying sasuke doesnt have the thrust speed to hit minato after he uses ameno but what if he combines that with universal pull? Im pretty sure he would get minato if he combined the two techs.
Care to disagree?

Unless Sasuke can pull Minato to him faster than Minato can react, then Minato will just warp away with Hiraishin.

 

[DHOH]

It could be a Genjutsu... That could be a distraction that would allow Sasuke to get to him with Amenotejikara.

 

[ashrafuchiha]

Unless Sasuke can pull Minato to him faster than Minato can react, then Minato will just warp away with Hiraishin.

so your telling me that BSM minatos reaction speed is that much more superior to sasukes that even after the combined techs of ameno which is pretty much instant and the ability to pull your opponent towards you, minato will still have time to react and escape. lmao. just stop.

 

[ashrafuchiha]

Ill admit i lost when it can be proven also when you going to admit Unorthodox > Beans?



Nice combo did not think of that.

cheers man i gotta support my man SASUKE.

 

[KidGamer65]

so your telling me that BSM minatos reaction speed is that much more superior to sasukes that even after the combined techs of ameno which is pretty much instant and the ability to pull your opponent towards you, minato will still have time to react and escape. lmao. just stop.

Sasuke's reaction speed has nothing to do with the speed BT pulls him at. I'd have to ask you Sasuke supporters to stop coming at me with these weak arguments.

 

[ashrafuchiha]

Sasuke's reaction speed has nothing to do with the speed BT pulls him at. I'd have to ask you Sasuke supporters to stop coming at me with these weak arguments.

How is this a weak argument when you havent even told me when he counter the ameno+bansho tenin combo?
First prove me wrong then call my argument weak. smh.

 

[KidGamer65]

How is this a weak argument when you havent even told me when he counter the ameno+bansho tenin combo?
First prove me wrong then call my argument weak. smh.

Unless Sasuke can pull Minato to him faster than Minato can react, then Minato will just warp away with Hiraishin. Bansho Tennin will not pull Minato to Sasuke's position faster than he can react, so it is practically irrelevant here. If you aren't going to give a decent reply then don't expect me to waste my time arguing with you.

 

[DHOH]

I love how the Sasuke supporters is only being 'countered', but is not giving the chance to counter because the non Sasuke supporters have no way for Minato to win.

 

[ashrafuchiha]

I love how the Sasuke supporters is only being 'countered', but is not giving the chance to counter because the non Sasuke supporters have no way for Minato to win.

Exactly, Minato only has one tech in his arsenal that is doing any damage to sasukes PS and that is Flash Bijuu Dama which is easily dodged by sasukes versatile susanoo or even countered with arrows. KG is just spouting shit. Even if this sasuke is a Fanfic he is still shitting on Minato.
Any version of sasuke with rinnegan with or without sage chakra is shitting on any version of Minato period.

 

[KidGamer65]

Exactly, Minato only has one tech in his arsenal that is doing any damage to sasukes PS and that is Flash Bijuu Dama which is easily dodged by sasukes versatile susanoo or even countered with arrows. KG is just spouting shit. Even if this sasuke is a Fanfic he is still shitting on Minato.
Any version of sasuke with rinnegan with or without sage chakra is shitting on any version of Minato period.

The only people spouting shit are the people who are attempting to defend Sasuke here, or maybe I should just say you and unorthodox.

-Dodges flash Bijuu Dama? With what speed feats? Something I already covered in my argument with unorthodox.
-Countered with Arrows? Since when the hell were Susanoo Arrows strong enough to counter a Flash Bijuu Dama enhanced by Senjutsu?

I suggest you take your hands out of your pants and stop with the wank. Don't come here crying about me spouting shit when your best argument is "Ameno+BT" "Sasuke dodges Flash BD" and "Susanoo Arrows counter Flash BD".

I love how the Sasuke supporters is only being 'countered', but is not giving the chance to counter because the non Sasuke supporters have no way for Minato to win.

Lmfao. I've already suggested how Minato wins on the first page of this thread. What's worse is that a large portion of the argument was unorthodox trying and failing to counter my initial post. You're the OP. I suggest we actually read the thread before making nonsensical, and false, claims.

 

[Unorthodox]

When i debated kidgamer his hole argument was where is the proof im like im debating with a fanfic character, Lel my proof is accurate assumptions lol the KID kills me with his where is the proof arguments when this form of Sasuke does not exist and lawd the overration of the BSM avatar i wont even begin with that.

He had a raspy ass counter to Rinnegan genjutsu like stop giving him rikudou feats how is rinnegan genjutsu a rikudou feat when he has the rinnegan?

 

[ashrafuchiha]

The only people spouting shit are the people who are attempting to defend Sasuke here, or maybe I should just say you and unorthodox.

-Dodges flash Bijuu Dama? With what speed feats? Something I already covered in my argument with unorthodox.
-Countered with Arrows? Since when the hell were Susanoo Arrows strong enough to counter a Flash Bijuu Dama enhanced by Senjutsu?

I suggest you take your hands out of your pants and stop with the wank. Don't come here crying about me spouting shit when your best argument is "Ameno+BT" "Sasuke dodges Flash BD" and "Susanoo Arrows counter Flash BD".

Are you even serious did you actually just ask me how sasuke dodges Flash Bijuu Dama. Ok let me tell you Amenotejikara and even if he doesnt use Ameno the range at which Minato will use FBD will be enough for sasuke to 1 see him charging the jutsu and 2 have plenty of time to evade that slow ass attack. Do you even read what you post. You ask what speed feats when sasuke BEFORE he got sage chakra was keeping up with jj obito even it was barely he was keeping up and your asking how sasuke would dodge a FBD from a considerable range considering Minato would not want to get caught in the explosion.
And you say how i use Ameno+BT as an argument, ofcourse and i will continue to use that argument until you tell me how minato counters without it being BS.
If Sasuke teleports behind minato already in thrusting motion as he and naruto did against madara, also how he did against naruto, then after uses Bansho Tenin Minato is getting sucked into that chidori my friend like it or not. Sasuke doesnt need no striking speed if he is pulling hes opponent towards him so dont give me that BS about Minato having faster reactions when it is irrelevant due to sasukes OP arsenal. /Thread

Lmfao. I've already suggested how Minato wins on the first page. What's worse is that a large portion of the argument was unorthodox trying and failing to counter my initial post. You're the OP. I suggest we actually read the thread before making nonsensical, and false, claims.

Are you even serious did you actually just ask me how sasuke dodges Flash Bijuu Dama. Ok let me tell you Amenotejikara and even if he doesnt use Ameno the range at which Minato will use FBD will be enough for sasuke to 1 see him charging the jutsu and 2 have plenty of time to evade that slow ass attack. Do you even read what you post. You ask what speed feats when sasuke BEFORE he got sage chakra was keeping up with jj obito even it was barely he was keeping up and your asking how sasuke would dodge a FBD from a considerable range considering Minato would not want to get caught in the explosion.
And you say how i use Ameno+BT as an argument, ofcourse and i will continue to use that argument until you tell me how minato counters without it being BS.
If Sasuke teleports behind minato already in thrusting motion as he and naruto did against madara, also how he did against naruto, then after uses Bansho Tenin Minato is getting sucked into that chidori my friend like it or not. Sasuke doesnt need no striking speed if he is pulling hes opponent towards him so dont give me that BS about Minato having faster reactions when it is irrelevant due to sasukes OP arsenal. /Thread

 

[Unorthodox]

Hmm...

Gakidō hold's relevancy as the Senjutsu absorbed from Minato's attacks can just be used to fuel a Senjutsu Susano'o; also, "Susano'ō being destoryed /Damaged" should not even be referenced as it can be effortlessly replenished. With the Sharingan's precision Sasuke ignites Namikaze's Kunai with Ameterasu and the wood-portion hosting the seal is burnt off. The Rin'negan abilities as well as those stemming from his Sharingan give birth to many various methods by which Sasuke could best Namikaze. Initially Sasuke could use Amenotejikara concurrently with

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to make contact with Minato and begin to remove the Kyuubi's Chakra and his soul. ​

Your so smart puppydog so you agree Sasuke wins?

brb Showering!

 

[KidGamer65]

When i debated kidgamer his hole argument was where is the proof im like im debating with a fanfic character, Lel my proof is accurate assumptions lol the KID kills me with his where is the proof arguments when this form of Sasuke does not exist and lawd the overration of the BSM avatar i wont even begin with that.

He had a raspy ass counter to Rinnegan genjutsu like stop giving him rikudou feats how is rinnegan genjutsu a rikudou feat when he has the rinnegan?

So is this guy really bitching because he's expected to prove his assumptions? Lmfao. And when he can't he cries about Sasuke being fanfic, as if that is something that lets him make up whatever BS he wants to make up. And he calls himself the best debater, or one of the top tiers. Smfh.

Stop posting. You're done. Don't make yourself look any foolish than you and your fellow supporters already have. Claiming shit like:

-Rinnegan Genjutsu one shots when this is Sasuke w/o the chakra that buffs literally ALL OF HIS FUCKING ABILITIES.
-Sasuke uses Chidori w/ PS even though a BUFFED FUCKING SASUKE IS THE OWNER OF THAT FEAT.
-Sasuke's PS blade w/ Raiton bisects the Sage Kurama Avatar even though it couldn't do shit to the regular one at VoTe in canon.
-RSM downscales to BSM when RSM is not Old Senjutsu+Hagoromo's Senjutsu.
-Sasuke's PS is as fast as it is when he the chakra that FUCKING BUFFS ALL HIS ABILIITES.
-Sasuke's PS is far stronger than EMS Madara's even though you people can't even give real proof that it's equal let alone far stronger.

But yeah, I'm done arguing with you. You've already proven that someone can counter your shit over and over again only for you not to concede.

Are you even serious did you actually just ask me how sasuke dodges Flash Bijuu Dama. Ok let me tell you Amenotejikara and even if he doesnt use Ameno the range at which Minato will use FBD will be enough for sasuke to 1 see him charging the jutsu and 2 have plenty of time to evade that slow ass attack. Do you even read what you post. You ask what speed feats when sasuke BEFORE he got sage chakra was keeping up with jj obito even it was barely he was keeping up and your asking how sasuke would dodge a FBD from a considerable range considering Minato would not want to get caught in the explosion.

1. Already admitted that he can dodge via Ameno, but the cooldown prevents him from doing it multiple times or doing it in a row. You said he uses Susanoo to dodge, so I want you to provide the speed feats. Not that hard, even you should be able to understand a concept that basic, considering the clown above can't.

--You make claim.
--You prove claim.

It's not rocket science. If you can't follow this simple debating rule, get out of the vs section now.

2. You still haven't proved your claim. First you say Bijuu Dama is slow, even though Madara vs. Hashirama disagrees. Even though B's matching FRS disagrees. Even though BSM Naruto's matching Susanoo Arrow disagrees. Even though the speed and force of two giant BD's clashing was enough to shoot them far up into the air, far beyond Mountain Level in a second or two.

3. Then you give me feats of Sasuke being able to STRIKE Juubito. Which has jack shit to do with how fast he can fly.

4. Lmfao. Minato can protect himself by covering himself with his tails. YOU are the one who assumed that he'd be an abnormally large distance away when you can't even accurately fight from that distance.

Why don't you Sasuke supporters tell me how:

-He gets past the Kurama Avatar, lord knows the other 2 clowns did a terrible job at that.
-Survives multiple Flash BD. This evading shit is based on nothing.

And you say how i use Ameno+BT as an argument, ofcourse and i will continue to use that argument until you tell me how minato counters without it being BS

So basically you'll ignore what I clearly stated in favor of your own opinion? Good to know that you are just another retard fanboy who ignores evidence. Concession accepted here.

f Sasuke teleports behind minato already in thrusting motion as he and naruto did against madara, also how he did against naruto, then after uses Bansho Tenin Minato is getting sucked into that chidori my friend like it or not. Sasuke doesnt need no striking speed if he is pulling hes opponent towards him so dont give me that BS about Minato having faster reactions when it is irrelevant due to sasukes OP arsenal. /Thread

When BT can pull Minato so fast that he can't react, then we can talk. But considering you literally have no proof for any claim you make, there is nothing more to say here. Going with the same retarded "no striking speed" argument isn't going to help you.

Why the actual **** am I debating this with you clowns anyway when Sasuke has to actually get past the Kurama Avatar if we want to talk about hitting him w/o the Avatar on at all.

 

[ashrafuchiha]

So is this guy really bitching because he's expected to prove his assumptions? Lmfao. And when he can't he cries about Sasuke being fanfic, as if that is something that lets him make up whatever BS he wants to make up. And he calls himself the best debater, or one of the top tiers. Smfh.

Stop posting. You're done. Don't make yourself look any foolish than you and your fellow supporters already have. Claiming shit like:

-Rinnegan Genjutsu one shots when this is Sasuke w/o the chakra that buffs literally ALL OF HIS FUCKING ABILITIES.
-Sasuke uses Chidori w/ PS even though a BUFFED FUCKING SASUKE IS THE OWNER OF THAT FEAT.
-Sasuke's PS blade w/ Raiton bisects the Sage Kurama Avatar even though it couldn't do shit to the regular one at VoTe in canon.
-RSM downscales to BSM when RSM is not Old Senjutsu+Hagoromo's Senjutsu.
-Sasuke's PS is as fast as it is when he the chakra that FUCKING BUFFS ALL HIS ABILIITES.
-Sasuke's PS is far stronger than EMS Madara's even though you people can't even give real proof that it's equal let alone far stronger.

But yeah, I'm done arguing with you. You've already proven that someone can counter your shit over and over again only for you not to concede.



1. Already admitted that he can dodge via Ameno, but the cooldown prevents him from doing it multiple times or doing it in a row. You said he uses Susanoo to dodge, so I want you to provide the speed feats. Not that hard, even you should be able to understand a concept that basic, considering the clown above can't.

--You make claim.
--You prove claim.

It's not rocket science. If you can't follow this simple debating rule, get out of the vs section now.

2. You still haven't proved your claim. First you say Bijuu Dama is slow, even though Madara vs. Hashirama disagrees. Even though B's matching FRS disagrees. Even though BSM Naruto's matching Susanoo Arrow disagrees. Even though the speed and force of two giant BD's clashing was enough to shoot them far up into the air, far beyond Mountain Level in a second or two.

3. Then you give me feats of Sasuke being able to STRIKE Juubito. Which has jack shit to do with how fast he can fly.

4. Lmfao. Minato can protect himself by covering himself with his tails. YOU are the one who assumed that he'd be an abnormally large distance away when you can't even accurately fight from that distance.

Why don't you Sasuke supporters tell me how:

-He gets past the Kurama Avatar, lord knows the other 2 clowns did a terrible job at that.
-Survives multiple Flash BD. This evading shit is based on nothing.



So basically you'll ignore what I clearly stated in favor of your own opinion? Good to know that you are just another retard fanboy who ignores evidence. Concession accepted here.



When BT can pull Minato so fast that he can't react, then we can talk. But considering you literally have no proof for any claim you make, there is nothing more to say here. Going with the same retarded "no striking speed" argument isn't going to help you.

Why the actual **** am I debating this with you clowns anyway when Sasuke has to actually get past the Kurama Avatar if we want to talk about hitting him w/o the Avatar on at all.

Kidgamer you never cease to amaze me you ask with what speed feats is sasuke dodging with and i say the same speed feats he used to keep up with a JUUBI JIN and then you say that i dont back my statements or dont have proof.
You then say that Minato will be at a close distance when he uses FBD if that is the case he gets caught in the blast and you say he protects himself with the tails, lmao if the tails can withstand the blast PS can do the same.
YOU say sasuke cannot dodge with ameno in succession/ in a row but can minato fire FBD in a row? NO.
How is minato reacting to Ameno+BT when literraly the second sasuke uses ameno he then proceeds to use BT. You ever notice how everytime sasuke does ameno the other character always has those exclamation marks, thats to show that they are suprised and kinda caught off guard if at that moment that they are thinking "WTF" sasuke uses BT to pull them towards him thats GG. There is no way minato is reacting to that. Dont bullshit.
And you ask how he will get past the kurama avatar
Gakidō hold's relevancy as the Senjutsu absorbed from Minato's attacks can just be used to fuel a Senjutsu Susano'o; also, "Susano'ō being destoryed /Damaged" should not even be referenced as it can be effortlessly replenished. With the Sharingan's precision Sasuke ignites Namikaze's Kunai with Ameterasu and the wood-portion hosting the seal is burnt off. The Rin'negan abilities as well as those stemming from his Sharingan give birth to many various methods by which Sasuke could best Namikaze. Initially Sasuke could use Amenotejikara concurrently with Ningendō and Gakidō (as a defense mechanism) to make contact with Minato and begin to remove the Kyuubi's Chakra and his soul.
That is from the knowledgeable waltz. /Thread

 

[Unorthodox]

Why are you replying to me? was i speaking to you? Lol no and by the caps its sounds like your angry you did not counter my points replying to me quotes is not a counter you only repeated yourself with the same nonsense. If 3 tomoe Itachi would have gotten Hagoromo's chakra would that means his 3 tomoe genjutsu would be stronger? Derp no anyways your ability to comprehend my post is funny since you had no counter for any of it and i was the one debating with a fanfiction Kidgamer sit yo but down and stay in a Kids place.


HEY OP DUDE DOES SASUKE GET ALL HIS RINNEGAN ABILITIES THAT HE'S SHOWN JUST DOWNSCALED OR WHAT? MAKE IT SPECIFIC TO ME Okay

Given the Sharingan's insight [

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]; Saucy swaps Minato's heart with the nearest rock. ​

Thank you for your input. You should have seen the overration of Minato in this thread like goddam aint that some shit

 

[ComplexCity]

Why are you replying to me? was i speaking to you? Lol no and by the caps its sounds like your angry you did not counter my points replying to me quotes is not a counter you only repeated yourself with the same nonsense. If 3 tomoe Itachi would have gotten Hagoromo's chakra would that means his 3 tomoe genjutsu would be stronger? Derp no anyways your ability to comprehend my post is funny since you had no counter for any of it and i was the one debating with a fanfiction Kidgamer sit yo but down and stay in a Kids place.


HEY OP DUDE DOES SASUKE GET ALL HIS RINNEGAN ABILITIES THAT HE'S SHOWN JUST DOWNSCALED OR WHAT? MAKE IT SPECIFIC TO ME Okay




Thank you for your input. You should have seen the overration of Minato in this thread like goddam aint that some shit

lol @ on getting shatted on and then getting mad Lol

 

[Unorthodox]

lol @ on getting shatted on and then getting mad Lol

Im not mad lol and who are you?

 

[KidGamer65]

Why are you replying to me? was i speaking to you? Lol no and by the caps its sounds like your angry you did not counter my points replying to me quotes is not a counter you only repeated yourself with the same nonsense. If 3 tomoe Itachi would have gotten Hagoromo's chakra would that means his 3 tomoe genjutsu would be stronger? Derp no anyways your ability to comprehend my post is funny since you had no counter for any of it and i was the one debating with a fanfiction Kidgamer sit yo but down and stay in a Kids place.

Hagoromo's chakra bolsters ALL ABILITIES. The fact that you felt the need to take BUFFED Sasuke's feats and give them to a non BUFFED Sasuke only shows that you know Sasuke w/ the abilities he's supposed to have w/o Hagoromo's power cannot win. Kidgamer but still has 10x the knowledge and 10x the IQ you do. Smh.

FOH with your retarded ass.

Kidgamer you never cease to amaze me you ask with what speed feats is sasuke dodging with and i say the same speed feats he used to keep up with a JUUBI JIN and then you say that i dont back my statements or dont have proof.

I already explained why his striking speed is irrelevant when it comes to his movement speed.

ou then say that Minato will be at a close distance when he uses FBD if that is the case he gets caught in the blast and you say he protects himself with the tails, lmao if the tails can withstand the blast PS can do the same.

Except Sasuke's PS takes a direct hit. Minato's Avatar blocks with it's tails. Two completely different things.

YOU say sasuke cannot dodge with ameno in succession/ in a row but can minato fire FBD in a row? NO.

Never said he'd fire them in a row. You kids need to sit down and learn how to read. Not to mention it's fact Ameno can't be spammed due to it's cooldown.

How is minato reacting to Ameno+BT when literraly the second sasuke uses ameno he then proceeds to use BT. You ever notice how everytime sasuke does ameno the other character always has those exclamation marks, thats to show that they are suprised and kinda caught off guard if at that moment that they are thinking "WTF" sasuke uses BT to pull them towards him thats GG. There is no way minato is reacting to that. Dont bullshit.

This whole paragraph is literally you stating "Minato can't react because I say so". Lmfao. Grow the **** up and learn how form a real argument, instead of literally copying and pasting other people's arguments into your post instead of making your own.