Gaara vs Mighty Guy

[genii96]

A clone is a weaker version of the original anyway. Even if he does use a clone, his chakra may be split into half, thus defeating the clone will be just fine. Besides, the clone doesn't have the sand gourd, or if it does, it doesn't work since this only works on the original body, which is a Kekkei Genkai. If the clone doesn't have an absolute defense, Guy can simply defeat them clones with Taijutsu attacks, simple ones.

And by out-sped I'm referring mainly to the fight between Gaara and Lee, when the sand couldn't keep up with Lee's movements when he wasn't even using Gates. Going full defense as you say may work, but you can't attack. Basically, Gaara only hides this way.

In the 322 Episode you can see Madara hitting shinobi with his feet but the sand is there, protecting them, and still was almost pierced. Madara wasn't using super power or super speed, just simple Taijutsu moves, which proves that a simply sand barrier can be pierced with Guy's brute force.

Hirudora might indeed not work, but once Gaara runs out of chakra, it could. If Gaara will have time to get in his sand sphere fine, but his attacks won't land on Guy. And once Guy uses gated attacks, Gaara won't be able to get in his sand sphere. And a tsunami can be easily dodge by Guy's speed.


Facts or not, clones are either splitting your chakra in half, thus defeating them won't be a problem since it's basically 50% of chakra, or how many clones you make, or simply don't share chakra with your clones meaning that they're weak and can be easily defeated with Taijutsu.

you know that sand clones can reform right?,gaara is a former jin,chakra is not a problem. Clones are actually as strong as the original except with less durability. Water clones are an exception though.

Clones have sand gourds too actually.
Gaara vs lee didnt have a sand sphere,sand sphere covers all around him. He used it against sasuke,and he can make spikes come out from the sphere when it it hit. Speed and taijutsu are cancelled then.

Gaara can attack when in full defence form via sand sensing 3rd eye. And waiting is just fine,seeing as guy will just tire himsel out quickly.

Madara was made to flee from the sand in that anime episode,gaara's sand withstood 5 susanoo blades while being small,so ure wrong.


Chakra?,whose gonna run out quicker?,gaara or guy?. Sand tsunami is dodged how?

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[Prince Charles]

Gaara would take this more times than not for me.

 

[Optimistic]

Ah, now I'm sure you are DrProof's alt.

he's right though Gaara can take on Kakashi(without kamui) and Gai at once.

 

[miromiro]

you know that sand clones can reform right?,gaara is a former jin,chakra is not a problem. Clones are actually as strong as the original except with less durability. Water clones are an exception though.

Clones have sand gourds too actually.
Gaara vs lee didnt have a sand sphere,sand sphere covers all around him. He used it against sasuke,and he can make spikes come out from the sphere when it it hit. Speed and taijutsu are cancelled then.

Gaara can attack when in full defence form via sand sensing 3rd eye. And waiting is just fine,seeing as guy will just tire himsel out quickly.

Madara was made to flee from the sand in that anime episode,gaara's sand withstood 5 susanoo blades while being small,so ure wrong.


Chakra?,whose gonna run out quicker?,gaara or guy?. Sand tsunami is dodged how?

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Guy is also able to create at least a clone, so, once he figures out that the clone is a clone, he'll just create a clone to take care of it. Also, once Gaara goes into his sand sphere, there's no reason to attack him anymore at all. He'll attack, but with Guy's speed he can dodge the attacks. And we're talking here about current Gaara, which doesn't have Shukaku, so his chakra ain't that much. As long as Guy is careful and doesn't get close to the sphere, those spikes to shit to him. Also, dodging attacks takes less effort, in Guy's case anyway, than Gaara's chakra to attack. So, Gaara will tire out first. Gaara was able to withstand those blades because he saw them, he won't see Guy at his super-light speed. And a sand tsunami like that one can easily be dodged by running out of it's way. For Guy especially, that won't be a problem.

 

[genii96]

Guy is also able to create at least a clone, so, once he figures out that the clone is a clone, he'll just create a clone to take care of it. Also, once Gaara goes into his sand sphere, there's no reason to attack him anymore at all. He'll attack, but with Guy's speed he can dodge the attacks. And we're talking here about current Gaara, which doesn't have Shukaku, so his chakra ain't that much. As long as Guy is careful and doesn't get close to the sphere, those spikes to shit to him. Also, dodging attacks takes less effort, in Guy's case anyway, than Gaara's chakra to attack. So, Gaara will tire out first. Gaara was able to withstand those blades because he saw them, he won't see Guy at his super-light speed. And a sand tsunami like that one can easily be dodged by running out of it's way. For Guy especially, that won't be a problem.

guy using clones?seriously?:|. Gaara always attacks when he goe s into his sand sphere,didnt you see him do it against deidara?.

Gaara never used shukaku's chakra aside from the chunin exams,he actually had to supress shukaku's personality rather. So shukaku never added anything for him.

How will guy attack gaara if he dosent hit the sphere?,he has to punch through it.

Guy needs to use gates to dodge the attacks,once gates sets in,his stamina and chakra will reduce rapidly. His fight with kisame showed it. He wont last an hour in gates.

The sand tsunami covers everywhere,only place to run is back

 

[miromiro]

What's so strange about Guy using clones? Any ninja, who wants to become Genin, is needed to perform the Kage Bunshin Jutsu. Indeed Guy may not be the ninjutsu dude as the others, but I can tell you that at least 1 clone he can do. You mentioned that he's a Jinchuuriki, and that chakra ain't a problem because of this, but Jinchuuriki's don't get more chakra than normal humans only because of this, that's what I wanted to point out. Also, Guy's normal speed is more than enough to dodge the sand attacks. Do you remember the Lee vs Gaara fight? When Lee left those weights off his feet he was able to attain incredible speed, and he didn't use there any gates. Same thing goes for Guy, who's probably even faster, by logic. Also, I believe you're over-estimating Gaara's sand sphere. If it were that effective, why didn't it do anything against Madara? Why didn't he use it?

Also, in that picture, you can see that the tsunami covers a limited space. With the few seconds before getting hit, Guy with his speed can simply run out of the tsunami's way.

 

[KazekageDaichi]

What's so strange about Guy using clones? Any ninja, who wants to become Genin, is needed to perform the Kage Bunshin Jutsu. Indeed Guy may not be the ninjutsu dude as the others, but I can tell you that at least 1 clone he can do. You mentioned that he's a Jinchuuriki, and that chakra ain't a problem because of this, but Jinchuuriki's don't get more chakra than normal humans only because of this, that's what I wanted to point out. Also, Guy's normal speed is more than enough to dodge the sand attacks. Do you remember the Lee vs Gaara fight? When Lee left those weights off his feet he was able to attain incredible speed, and he didn't use there any gates. Same thing goes for Guy, who's probably even faster, by logic. Also, I believe you're over-estimating Gaara's sand sphere. If it were that effective, why didn't it do anything against Madara? Why didn't he use it?

Also, in that picture, you can see that the tsunami covers a limited space. With the few seconds before getting hit, Guy with his speed can simply run out of the tsunami's way.

Gaara has been using massive techniques during all the war. How could you even say his chakra ain't that much...

 

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[miromiro]

Gaara has been using massive techniques during all the war. How could you even say his chakra ain't that much...

I was just replying to where he said that chakra isn't a problem at all because he's a Jinchuuriki. Obviously he has a huge chakra, but not that huge for it to not be a problem at some point.

 

[genii96]

What's so strange about Guy using clones? Any ninja, who wants to become Genin, is needed to perform the Kage Bunshin Jutsu. Indeed Guy may not be the ninjutsu dude as the others, but I can tell you that at least 1 clone he can do. You mentioned that he's a Jinchuuriki, and that chakra ain't a problem because of this, but Jinchuuriki's don't get more chakra than normal humans only because of this, that's what I wanted to point out. Also, Guy's normal speed is more than enough to dodge the sand attacks. Do you remember the Lee vs Gaara fight? When Lee left those weights off his feet he was able to attain incredible speed, and he didn't use there any gates. Same thing goes for Guy, who's probably even faster, by logic. Also, I believe you're over-estimating Gaara's sand sphere. If it were that effective, why didn't it do anything against Madara? Why didn't he use it?

Also, in that picture, you can see that the tsunami covers a limited space. With the few seconds before getting hit, Guy with his speed can simply run out of the tsunami's way.

no,they are required to make a bushin,not kage bushin. Those normal bushins dont fight,and are practically useless in a fight with top ninjas. It's a genin level tech. Kage bushin is much more advanced.

To be a jinchuriki you must have a huge chakra pool.

Gaara vs lee was a long time ago,infact still around that time,by the SRA arc,gaara faced kimimaro who was pretty much faster than lee in base,getting boosts in speed in both cs1 and cs2,yet gaara still kept up with him. Gaara's sand blocked a nuke the split second it blew up. Base guy is doing nothing. Sand hail or sand tsunami forces him into gates

Using madara to justify Guy isnt wise,seeing as madara is leagues above guy.

 

[miromiro]

no,they are required to make a bushin,not kage bushin. Those normal bushins dont fight,and are practically useless in a fight with top ninjas. It's a genin level tech. Kage bushin is much more advanced.

To be a jinchuriki you must have a huge chakra pool.

Gaara vs lee was a long time ago,infact still around that time,by the SRA arc,gaara faced kimimaro who was pretty much faster than lee in base,getting boosts in speed in both cs1 and cs2,yet gaara still kept up with him. Gaara's sand blocked a nuke the split second it blew up. Base guy is doing nothing. Sand hail or sand tsunami forces him into gates

Using madara to justify Guy isnt wise,seeing as madara is leagues above guy.

Huge chakra pool is one thing, and having chakra "not to be a problem" like Madara's is another thing. Remember that Guy doesn't use chakra for his Taijutsu. Also, you're now comparing Kimmimaro to Mighty Guy? They're miles away Taijutsu wise and power-wise. That Kimmimaro was able to put quite some problems on Gaara, and now he's not that much stronger than he was back then.

And I was only using Madara as an example that penetrating the sand defense ain't really that big thing. I'm pretty sure that if Chidori was able to pierce through that sand sphere, a 5-6 Gated Guy could too. It's just sand in the end, even if it's held by chakra, with Guy's gated brute force and can be penetrated. And that would be a fatal blow for Gaara.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I was going to say gai but gaara has improved massively, so anyone who mentions Lee vs gaara forget it current gaara wins I think, then again its gai so I'm 50 50

 

[Tartarus]

Gaara still has this. I don't see Guy breaching Gaara's defense in any other way outside of the 8th Gate.

 

[genii96]

Huge chakra pool is one thing, and having chakra "not to be a problem" like Madara's is another thing. Remember that Guy doesn't use chakra for his Taijutsu. Also, you're now comparing Kimmimaro to Mighty Guy? They're miles away Taijutsu wise and power-wise. That Kimmimaro was able to put quite some problems on Gaara, and now he's not that much stronger than he was back then.

And I was only using Madara as an example that penetrating the sand defense ain't really that big thing. I'm pretty sure that if Chidori was able to pierce through that sand sphere, a 5-6 Gated Guy could too. It's just sand in the end, even if it's held by chakra, with Guy's gated brute force and can be penetrated. And that would be a fatal blow for Gaara.

gaara chakra pool wont be a priblem in this match because guy wont last more than an hour in gates whereas gaara can go 2 days of fighting.

Guy dosent use chakra,but his stamina runs down.

I was comparing kimi to part 1 lee,just to show that gaara's sand speed and strength improved by much at that time. Kimimaro gave gaara trouble because of his bones.

Gaara is far stronger now as a 16 year old than when he was 13.

Madara used meteors,mokton,PS,rinnegan,guy uses taijutsu and gates,there is a very big gap in power there.

Chidori piercing it was in the chunin exams,and it barely pierced it anyway,and his arm got stuck.
Kimimaro's cs2 bone drill couldnt pierce through the sand,and that is stronger than a chidori at that time.

Gaara's defence as a 12 year old was stronger than steel. It is not just sand when gaara uses it.

 

[miromiro]

Guy doesn't need to fight 1 hour in gates. He needs to open 5-6 gates and he'll be able to pierce through Gaara's sand armor. Doesn't need to use gates more than a minute. Stamina runs out, but he has durability and his stamina will run out slower dodging Gaara's attacks unlike Gaara's chakra to attack. The sand speed might have improved, yet Guy's speed is still above it. That's something that needs to be admitted.

Also, Sasuke was still weak back then, and the Chidori was weak too. We can't compare that Chidori with a 6-7 Gated Guy attack. Once Gaara runs out of chakra to attack Guy, he'll go into gate-mode and pierce through his defense. With brute force, and with less chakra from Gaara, Guy can pierce it at about 5 gates.

 

[genii96]

Guy doesn't need to fight 1 hour in gates. He needs to open 5-6 gates and he'll be able to pierce through Gaara's sand armor. Doesn't need to use gates more than a minute. Stamina runs out, but he has durability and his stamina will run out slower dodging Gaara's attacks unlike Gaara's chakra to attack. The sand speed might have improved, yet Guy's speed is still above it. That's something that needs to be admitted.

Also, Sasuke was still weak back then, and the Chidori was weak too. We can't compare that Chidori with a 6-7 Gated Guy attack. Once Gaara runs out of chakra to attack Guy, he'll go into gate-mode and pierce through his defense. With brute force, and with less chakra from Gaara, Guy can pierce it at about 5 gates.

guy will need far more than a minute to pierce the sand sphere,guy's punches cant equate to a v3 susanoo sword,

as long as gates are open,his stamina will drop,whether he dodges or stand still.

Guy's speed is only higher in gates,not base.

Chidori is a piercing attack,punches are not. Gaara,like i said later blocked a cs2 bone drill from kimimaro,so his sand improved a lot.

Why would gaara have less chakra?,he can go for 2 days fighting.

Guy's 7 gates do not have the same power as a senjutsu enhanced v3 susanoo sword strike which was bloclked by a tiny sand shield.

 

[miromiro]

1 minute, 5 minutes, whatever. At Guy's speed, he can land many gated attacks. The chakra that envelops him when he's using gates is increasing his power drastically, so he's basically going to pierce through it with brute force. If not, he'll push the sand back and the sphere will be broken. And he could stop those swords because he was focusing his chakra towards his defense, plus that Guy's attacks are multiple and fast. No time for Gaara to react. And I already told you that he doesn't need gates to dodge Gaara's attacks. And watch the Lee vs Gaara fight. Lee is like Gaara, and we all remember the speed Lee got after taking off those weights, and he wasn't using gates there. Indeed, that speed to attack might not be enough, but it is for dodging.

Gaara only was able to fight 2 days because he stopped two times. Once it was night and nobody was fighting, and once he was knocked out and was treated by Orochimaru. Guy's attack is certainly not a 1-powerful-shot as that arrow, but it's a multiple attack with multiple gated chakra punches in a matter of milliseconds. Gaara doesn't have the speed and power to keep up with that.

 

[KazekageDaichi]

1 minute, 5 minutes, whatever. At Guy's speed, he can land many gated attacks. The chakra that envelops him when he's using gates is increasing his power drastically, so he's basically going to pierce through it with brute force. If not, he'll push the sand back and the sphere will be broken. And he could stop those swords because he was focusing his chakra towards his defense, plus that Guy's attacks are multiple and fast. No time for Gaara to react. And I already told you that he doesn't need gates to dodge Gaara's attacks. And watch the Lee vs Gaara fight. Lee is like Gaara, and we all remember the speed Lee got after taking off those weights, and he wasn't using gates there. Indeed, that speed to attack might not be enough, but it is for dodging.

Gaara only was able to fight 2 days because he stopped two times. Once it was night and nobody was fighting, and once he was knocked out and was treated by Orochimaru. Guy's attack is certainly not a 1-powerful-shot as that arrow, but it's a multiple attack with multiple gated chakra punches in a matter of milliseconds. Gaara doesn't have the speed and power to keep up with that.

Gaara stopped at night... what an argument. Of course he did x). How many characters were able to do what he did? Do you even remember what kind of opponents he fought?
His chakra reserves are just huge, that shouldn't even be debatable.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Lee didn't lose though, he just lost stamina and was tired, and he was still ready to fight after wards and guys has the tiger thingy that he uses,

 

[Optimistic]

Lee didn't lose though, he just lost stamina and was tired, and he was still ready to fight after wards and guys has the tiger thingy that he uses,

Differences between part 1 gaara and current gaara: he can fly, sand speed has increased, reaction speed increased, able to multitask(use two sand jutsu's at once), bijuu sized attacks , sealing jutsu(suffocation), larger reserves , stronger defense. Don't compare Part 1 Gaara's sand to Part 2, Gai loses low diff he cannot hit Gaara when he's air born Gaara was able to tank C3 which is much stronger than Hirodora.