Gaara is the strongest of the current Kage

[Meowazziel]

Gaara>A
Gaara>Tsunade.
Gaara>Mei.
Gaara>Onoki.

The last one might be difficult, but not impossible.

Gaara can fly on his sand and has longrange attacks. A and Tsunade lack long range attacks and cant fly.
Gaara's sand was shown to block a lightning guilotine kick from A (Sasuke vs A battle), so his sand is not THAT weak vs lightning. Gaara has large chakra reserves. He should be able to take both down 1 on 1.

Mei Cant fly either, but she has mid/long range attacks. Gaara his ability to fly makes sure he can stay out of boil release mist and he can dodge and block the lava release. The Mizukage Terumi Mei lacks good defences. This one goes to Gaara as well.

Onoki has good long range attacks and good defences. Even if he couldnt fly, he would have some good tools to battle Gaara. But Onoki can fly, in addition to the arsenal he has. However, with all the sand attacking you, it cant be easy to fire dust release attacks. Dust release takes a huge chunk of chakra. Onoki has to win fast, because a battle that is drawn out will be in Gaara's favor. Its not impossible to fight a dust release user(even though the manga said Muu needed to be stopped by Onoki, another dustrelease user). If it was impossible, than Madara would have been owned by Onoki AND Muu, but he wasnt owned. On the contrary, he owned them, two dust release users.
Taijutsu wise, Onoki cant hurt Gaara, cause even a Gates Lee couldnt get through his sand armor.
The only way for Onoki to win, is by hitting Gaara with a dust release.

So the youngest Kage, is the strongest one, if they would go 1 on 1.
Just as the second Mizukage said, he is the Golden egg, among the current Kage .

Do you agree?
Why?
or
Why not?

P.S
Ignore the Gaara ava/profile , it just happened to be made around the same time as this thread. No fanboying Gaara here (no unrealistic fanboying, like spouting nonsense at least).

 

[Negative Knight]

Oonki is stronger than Gaara.

 

[CommanderInChief]

No sir, it would Tsunade.

 

[Meowazziel]

Oonki is stronger than Gaara.

Could you give reasoning why you believe this? Iam not saying that it cant be true, I would just like to know why you believe so.

and @ the person above this post as well, please add the ''why'' part .

 

[Pekoms]

Unless Gaara and Ōnoki are fighting in a desert (his best feats), the former will initially be limited to the sand in his gourd.
That's not to say Gaara can't easily make more, it'd just be slower than Ōnoki's Jinton. In most scenarios, Ōnoki triumphs.

It'd take an absurd amount of sand to inhibit the devastation of Jinton.

 

[Negative Knight]

Could you give reasoning why you believe this? Iam not saying that it cant be true, I would just like to know why you believe so.

and @ the person above this post as well, please add the ''why'' part .

Gaara's Sand defense automatic or not, he isn't capable of defending against Jinton, something which would tear it apart on a molecular level. Since he has no defense against Jinton and isn't fast enough to escape it before being struck (especially since he's a stationary fighter), the attack will bring about his inevitable demise.

 

[Meowazziel]

Unless Gaara and Ōnoki are fighting in a desert (his best feats), the former will initially be limited to the sand in his gourd.
That's not to say Gaara can't easily make more, it'd just be slower than Ōnoki's Jinton. In most scenarios, Ōnoki would win.

Jinton moves in one straight line though, while sand is more flexible. You maintain more mobility with sand attacks and you become more stationary with jinton. Gaara can defend(as in block BUT also dodge) and attack at the same time, Onoki cant(has to attack or defend).

How fast do you think Onoki's Jinton is? It cant be unavoiable, otherwise Iwakagure would have dominated the Shinobi world with Muu and Onoki, but they havent. So it must be battleable(word? xd) right?

It would be cool to see them fight in a ova or something.
Some type of sparring fight.
Most likely not gonna happen though.

Gaara's Sand defense automatic or not, he isn't capable of defending against Jinton, something which would tear it apart on a molecular level. Since he has no defense against Jinton and isn't fast enough to escape it before being struck (especially since he's a stationary fighter), the attack will bring about his inevitable demise.

Which Shinobi do you consider fast enough to dodge it?

 

[Negative Knight]

Jinton moves in one straight line though, while sand is more flexible. You maintain more mobility with sand attacks and you become more stationary with jinton. Gaara can defend and attack at the same time, Onoki cant.

How fast do you think Onoki's Jinton is? It cant be unavoiable, otherwise Iwakagure would have dominated the Shinobi world with Muu and Onoki, but they havent. So it must be battleable(word? xd) right?

It would be cool to see them fight in a ova or something.
Some type of sparring fight.
Most likely not gonna happen though.


Which Shinobi do you consider fast enough to dodge it?

Minato, The Third Raikage (Possibly), The Fourth Raikage, Current Naruto and probably a few others.

 

[UchihaInza]

they are all dead ..but without his tailed beast i dont think so ..A is stronger

 

[choft]

Why can't Onoki fly and charge up his attack at the same time?

Gaara doesn't move either, and I can't see the sand surviving an attack which disintegrates things to the molecular level.

Onoki and Muu dominating the world is a different story to a 1vs1 battle. - you have to deal with many more people, and we're not just talking about fodders, we're talking about all the other strong ninjas too (kages, elite jounins).

 

[Pekoms]

Jinton moves in one straight line though, while sand is more flexible. You maintain more mobility with sand attacks and you become more stationary with jinton. Gaara can defend(as in block BUT also dodge) and attack at the same time, Onoki cant(has to attack or defend).

Gaara is more stationary, not to mention you ignored the part where in most instances he'd begin with a gourd full of sand.
He's not going to have time to both attack and defend against Ōnoki's Jinton when he's attempting to create more sand.

Gaara isn't going to just dodge it, Jinton's area of effect is quite large and his speed is mediocre at best (databooks).
Not to mention the obvious, his sand won't withstand Jinton. Jinton will disintegrate the sand rather easily.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

No sir, it would Tsunade.

I'm glad you don't underrate her, but Onoki is stronger then her.

 

[Meowazziel]

Why can't Onoki fly and charge up his attack at the same time?

Gaara doesn't move either, and I can't see the sand surviving an attack which disintegrates things to the molecular level.

Onoki and Muu dominating the world is a different story to a 1vs1 battle. - you have to deal with many more people, and we're not just talking about fodders, we're talking about all the other strong ninjas too (kages, elite jounins).

When Onoki fires a beam, he cant turn around while shooting, cause the beam would turn around too.
He has to face his attack and keep the beam still. If he flies up, the beam goes up. So once he fires the jinton, he cant move. This makes him very stationary.

Gaara is quite a stationary fighter as well, but his sand is more flexible in terms of control. He can fly up or down, without the sand having to fly up or down with him. The sand can move, independent of Gaara's movement.

So you are saying
Muu>anyone 1 on 1?
Onoki>anyone 1 on 1?
They fought Madara together and lost.

I guess the big question in Gaara vs Onoki is if Gaara can dodge Jinton and if Onoki can stop Gaara's sand by desintegrating it.

Gaara is more stationary, not to mention you ignored the part where in most instances he'd begin with a gourd full of sand.
He's not going to have time to both attack and defend against Ōnoki's Jinton when he's attempting to create more sand.

Gaara isn't going to just dodge it, Jinton's area of effect is quite large and his speed is mediocre at best (databooks).
Not to mention the obvious, his sand won't withstand Jinton. Jinton will disintegrate the sand rather easily.

About being stationary, see text above .
I didnt ignore the part about the guard. I just didnt talk about dessert battles nor starting with a guard. No need to block jinton with lots of sand anyway, since it goes through it. So the chakra infused fast sand, is the sand that matters the most to catch Onoki anyway.

The big question is if Gaara can dodge it(high distance?) or stop Onoki from hitting him with it/making it harder to hit himand if Onoki could just decide to purposely destroy the sand with jinton to the point of Gaara being without.

 

[Cocytus]

I don´t know about Oonoki, that would be a close one, but i think that A would dominate Gaara with his insane speed
he would break through his auto-defense before Gaara would even be able to react

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

No, Onoki is stronger than Gaara even Madara stated that out of all the Kages Onoki possessed the biggest threat.

 

[choft]

When Onoki fires a beam, he cant turn around while shooting, cause the beam would turn around too.
He has to face his attack and keep the beam still. If he flies up, the beam goes up. So once he fires the jinton, he cant move. This makes him very stationary.

Gaara is quite a stationary fighter as well, but his sand is more flexible in terms of control. He can fly up or down, without the sand having to fly up or down with him. The sand can move, independent of Gaara's movement.

That's an interesting thought you proposed there.

Well, I won't get too technical since it hasn't been shown in the manga, but when I was visioning Onoki flying and charging, I was thinking that he was kind of flying in a way such that he was always facing Gaara. (I hope that makes sense XD)

Also, I think that while he is charging up the beam, he is able to move. It's only during the firing stage, that he actually has to be stationary, and that part is pretty short (that beam moves pretty damn fast). It's not an easy thing to do, but I think he can do it because he is a Kage after all.

We know that it's possible to dodge Gaara's sand whilst flying (Deidara proved it), and I think that Onoki must have a good aim, considering the many years he has been using the technique.

So you are saying
Muu>anyone 1 on 1?
Onoki>anyone 1 on 1?
They fought Madara together and lost.

No, I'm not. You said that if jinton was really OP, they should have dominated the world by now. I'm saying they haven't because in reality, they could be facing a whole lot of strong shinobis simultaneously. But here we're only talking about a battle between two people. I'm not saying that Onoki can solo everyone, just that I think he can solo Gaara.

I guess the big question in Gaara vs Onoki is if Gaara can dodge Jinton and if Onoki can stop Gaara's sand by desintegrating it.

I can't see Gaara dodge jinton, I haven't seen Gaara move that fast, even when he moves, and I can't see why sand can prevent itself from being disintegrated.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Gaara>A
Gaara>Tsunade.
Gaara>Mei.
Gaara>Onoki.

The last one might be difficult, but not impossible.

Gaara can fly on his sand and has longrange attacks. A and Tsunade lack long range attacks and cant fly.
Gaara's sand was shown to block a lightning guilotine kick from A (Sasuke vs A battle), so his sand is not THAT weak vs lightning. Gaara has large chakra reserves. He should be able to take both down 1 on 1.

Mei Cant fly either, but she has mid/long range attacks. Gaara his ability to fly makes sure he can stay out of boil release mist and he can dodge and block the lava release. The Mizukage Terumi Mei lacks good defences. This one goes to Gaara as well.

Onoki has good long range attacks and good defences. Even if he couldnt fly, he would have some good tools to battle Gaara. But Onoki can fly, in addition to the arsenal he has. However, with all the sand attacking you, it cant be easy to fire dust release attacks. Dust release takes a huge chunk of chakra. Onoki has to win fast, because a battle that is drawn out will be in Gaara's favor. Its not impossible to fight a dust release user(even though the manga said Muu needed to be stopped by Onoki, another dustrelease user). If it was impossible, than Madara would have been owned by Onoki AND Muu, but he wasnt owned. On the contrary, he owned them, two dust release users.
Taijutsu wise, Onoki cant hurt Gaara, cause even a Gates Lee couldnt get through his sand armor.
The only way for Onoki to win, is by hitting Gaara with a dust release.

So the youngest Kage, is the strongest one, if they would go 1 on 1.
Just as the second Mizukage said, he is the Golden egg, among the current Kage .

Do you agree?
Why?
or
Why not?

P.S
Ignore the Gaara ava/profile , it just happened to be made around the same time as this thread. No fanboying Gaara here (no unrealistic fanboying, like spouting nonsense at least).

for onnoki he has to fight him in the desert

 

[Meowazziel]

That's an interesting thought you proposed there.

Well, I won't get too technical since it hasn't been shown in the manga, but when I was visioning Onoki flying and charging, I was thinking that he was kind of flying in a way such that he was always facing Gaara. (I hope that makes sense XD)

Also, I think that while he is charging up the beam, he is able to move. It's only during the firing stage, that he actually has to be stationary, and that part is pretty short (that beam moves pretty damn fast). It's not an easy thing to do, but I think he can do it because he is a Kage after all.

We know that it's possible to dodge Gaara's sand whilst flying (Deidara proved it), and I think that Onoki must have a good aim, considering the many years he has been using the technique.



No, I'm not. You said that if jinton was really OP, they should have dominated the world by now. I'm saying they haven't because in reality, they could be facing a whole lot of strong shinobis simultaneously. But here we're only talking about a battle between two people. I'm not saying that Onoki can solo everyone, just that I think he can solo Gaara.





I can't see Gaara dodge jinton, I haven't seen Gaara move that fast, even when he moves, and I can't see why sand can prevent itself from being disintegrated.

Thanks for the interesting thought compliment.

No I wasnt saying that you mean ''Onoki or Muu>anyone''. It was a question (that is why i used thequestionmark xd).
Who do you think can take out Muu 1 on 1? Who do you think can take out Onoki 1 on 1?
The second Mizukage(died himself too though) can take out Muu and probably Onoki 1 on 1 too.
Madara can.
Who can too?

I dont mean that sand can prevent itself from being disintegrated(when hit), it had more to do with if the sand can dodge the jinton and prevent itself from being desintegrated due to not getting hit .

 

[choft]

Thanks for the interesting thought compliment.

No I wasnt saying that you mean ''Onoki or Muu>anyone''. It was a question (that is why i used thequestionmark xd).
Who do you think can take out Muu 1 on 1? Who do you think can take out Onoki 1 on 1?
The second Mizukage(died himself too though) can take out Muu and probably Onoki 1 on 1 too.
Madara can.
Who can too?

I dont mean that sand can prevent itself from being disintegrated(when hit), it had more to do with if the sand can dodge the jinton and prevent itself from being desintegrated due to not getting hit .

I think anyone fast can take out Onoki, if Onoki starts out on the ground. (like Minato, Naruto, 3rd Raikage)

I think Nagato can too and Itachi.

EDIT: I forgot Obito, I think Obito can as well.

 

[HadouKage]

You are aware that Onoki can expand his Jinton right?