Gaara can defeat Nagato.

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no deva path>sand it destoyed a whole village.

They were unaware of Nagatos abilities then. If thet knew, trust me. Shikamaru and shikaku would plan a good enough strategy to bring him down without Narutos help.

 

[Owarij]

That is not enough backing up. Gaara was trying to protect the village. He couldnt go all out. Back up your points, if not, when you talk like that, it makes you sound like a douche.

sigh i hate when people bring up the "gaara was protecting the village" ... you look at gaaras ONE disadvantage, and forget many things, like gaaras advantage.. geographically.. Deidara's TWO disadvantages, having like 1 bag of clay, and inability to kill gaara by request... deidara even said "It was much more difficult not killing him than i thought ....yeah"

deidara hints if it was a fight to kill, it would have been a totally different thing..

but anyway , I digress, totally offtopic

 

[Yo pappy]

see what can this path do...

and don't forget to mention that just 3 missiles from this path took down the 6 tails flat. and gaara who is even without a bijuu ( that too 1 tail ) can't do shit.

2. yeah.. the problem is that... who can he deal with each and every summoning at the same time...??? with rhinos , bulls , dogs, birds , reptiles soming from all sides..

3. yeah he doesn't need to revive any bodies but you remember this path also extract souls ??? through their freakin mouth.....

4. petra path ... the moment petra path touches sand it is out of gaara's control and normal sand and if petra path catches gaara good bye gaara...

5.human path though has a range but can catch anyone without anyone noticing ... too fast for gaara...

6. deva path.. don't even try.. deva path will crush gaara in his own sand.

and your biggest misconception....



sire that was a good joke that made my day.... good day to you sire...

- Pain defeating the 6 tails with the missiles was not in the manga, and tails has nothing to do with power as stated by Hachibi. The only thing the tails resemble is the amount of chakra.

- Gaara can fly, and control sand from the ground while in the air therefore not having to deal with the summons directly (besides the bird).

- In order for him to remove Gaaras soul he needs to bring Gaara into range, and I don't think he can.

- That doesn't even make sense.

- Human path doesn't really have a range, unless you consider a couple feet range.

- Great argument, you totally got me there bro. /sarcasm

- That bird summon is no where near as fast and agile as Deidaras bird. Nothing but a huge target that will get the treatment.

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[Ambriel]

No where on there does it say that he absorbed the sands chakra, they were referring to the Rasenshuriken. And even if they were referring to the sand being absorbed (which they're not) it's because he used the sand from the gourd to grab Madara, and sand from the ground to trap Susanoo..

Rinnegan absorbs chakra and gaara guides his sand with his chakra infused. Gaara sand would be useless against nagato

 

[ANNEDAX]

what is his clone going to do? sure he can try , but as i said, once nagato uses rain tiger at will, rain starts falling on the entire battlefield, all gaaras attacks are now mud, he cant fly, he can't do anything properly ,

Now what? nagato can fly, and gaara is stuck on a ground with only mud... open to raiton attacks

Gaaras sand is preety fast you know. Even during the chinin exams, Lee could hardly keep up with him. I can recall someone say "what i going on? I cant see a thing" because of the speed. Even during Diedaras battle he could keep up with Diedaras flying bombs despite the speed. My point is that he can fly even before the rain starts and get himself in a safe distance.

 

[vaibhav16591]

- Pain defeating the 6 tails with the missiles was not in the manga, and tails has nothing to do with power as stated by Hachibi. The only thing the tails resemble is the amount of chakra.

- Gaara can fly, and control sand from the ground while in the air therefore not having to deal with the summons directly (besides the bird).

- In order for him to remove Gaaras soul he needs to bring Gaara into range, and I don't think he can.

- That doesn't even make sense.

- Human path doesn't really have a range, unless you consider a couple feet range.

- Great argument, you totally got me there bro. /sarcasm

- That bird summon is no where near as fast and agile as Deidaras bird. Nothing but a huge target that will get the treatment.

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i didn't even bother i read after that.... good day to you sire i am leaving this thread.

 

[Yo pappy]

as i said , if nagato makes it rain, all his sand will get wet..

gaara can fly by placing solid sand under his feet.. how is he going to stand on mud which is liquid...

once his sand is liquid , its all over.. with raiton..

Water actually makes the sand a lot more compact, which is why it's heavy to begin with. Wet sand is not the same thing as mud, get it trough your head.

 

[Owarij]

Gaaras sand is preety fast you know. Even during the chinin exams, Lee could hardly keep up with him. I can recall someone say "what i going on? I cant see a thing" because of the speed. Even during Diedaras battle he could keep up with Diedaras flying bombs despite the speed. My point is that he can fly even before the rain starts and get himself in a safe distance.

you can't get yourself in any safe distance from rain... thats the point of the technique... gaara doesn't fly past clouds.. he doesn't go that far up.. and he doesn';t even know nagato has that tecnique..

you couldn't enter the hidden rain village without getting touched by the rain, and not have him know

sand isn't mud, but it will absorb water and become wet, heavy, slow, dense, etc , i don't see him being able to fly with wet sand.. and as i said , lightning element attacks would be his down fall

 

[soulless uchiha]

Yeah, and Sakura can kill Madara. Really, deidara took Gaara down.. :|

true

 

[Better]

You know I love Gaara, but the rinnegan is on a completely different level

 

[ANNEDAX]

sigh i hate when people bring up the "gaara was protecting the village" ... you look at gaaras ONE disadvantage, and forget many things, like gaaras advantage.. geographically.. Deidara's TWO disadvantages, having like 1 bag of clay, and inability to kill gaara by request... deidara even said "It was much more difficult not killing him than i thought ....yeah"

deidara hints if it was a fight to kill, it would have been a totally different thing..

but anyway , I digress, totally offtopic

We are talking about bombs here, not just ordinary clay. Imagine it a a bullet. Everyone can cause a certain amout of damage. Gaara was in mid air. Another disadvantage, not as much sand as he could have used. He was using thesame sand for protection, of both himself and the village and for defence. Not imagine that fight just outside the village and tell me that Gaara will not win. But as you said, that is by the way.

 

[Yo pappy]

Rinnegan absorbs chakra and gaara guides his sand with his chakra infused. Gaara sand would be useless against nagato

I think this is the only thing that would put a damper on the whole thing if it's true, which it very well could be. I did state that it was only a theory.

 

[Owarij]

how is gaara even going to touch him, when his preta path ability can activate at any time, at any part of his body, without hands being involved???

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[Yo pappy]

how is gaara even going to touch him, when his preta path ability can activate at any time, at any part of his body, without hands being involved???

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Like I said, as long as Gaara does not attack with the sand in his gourd Preta Path won't be able to absorb the dry sand around him. I don't think Gaara infuses his chakra with sand already around him, he just manipulates it. It's been stated numerous times that Gaara can control sand at will. Another reason why I think this is because without the Shukaku Gaara has somehow been able to perform twice as much jutsus on the battlefield compared to his previous battles. I don't see any other explanation for that. That's just my guess though, I never said everything in my post was factual.

 

[Oronagato]

Dude... Nagato would cream and annihilate Gaara. But your arguments were great, so I would give your a thread a 4/5 stars.

 

[Yo pappy]

Dude... Nagato would cream and annihilate Gaara. But your arguments were great, so I would give your a thread a 4/5 stars.

lol Someone's gotta shake things up every once and a while. I get tired of seeing the same VS. threads be made over and over again.

 

[Drakengard]

^True, I thought my mega-man thread would work but it turned out that everybody hated it ;P

 

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Please read first.

I'm going to go trough each path and ability that Nagato has, and show you how Gaara can possibly counter all of them, and defeat a live Nagato WITHOUT GEDO MAZO. Not all of these points are concrete, and some of these are theories. Whether you agree or not is up to you.

1. Asura path - This is probably the least threatning path to Gaara. As long as he can keep his distance he poses no threat besides the missiles which can be disposed of by either blocking, or changing it's course with the sand. Whatever this path does is easily countered by Gaaras auto defense.

2. Animal Path - Each and every summon can easily be defeated by simply crushing them, the only one that would give Gaara some trouble would be the Multi-headed dog which he can seal. Also, because Gaara can attack with his sand in more places than one, and from the ground up the linked vision between the summons will be of no use.

3. Naraka Path/Outer Path - Pretty much useless in this fight, Nagato isn't pain, and has no need to revive any bodies.

4. Preta Path - As long as Gaara does not attack with the sand in his gourd Preta Path won't be able to absorb anything. The only sand that Gaara uses that is infused with his chakra is the sand in his gourd as stated by Deidara. Once he realizes that his chakra is being drained he can just use regular sand. This is the reason that Gaara without the Shukaku has been able to last so long in the war without tiring. Think about it.

5. Human Path - This can pretty much kill anyone, and anything if caught, but I don't think Nagato will be able to bring Gaara into his range. I'll explain this next.

6. Deva Path - Both Universal Pull and almighty push can be countered by Gaara grounding himself with the sand. He's done this to his opponents (Kimimaro, his Father, etc.), and there's no reason to say he couldn't do it to himself. It would be somewhat similar to how Tsunade was planning to counter Pain by concentrating chakra to her feet, but unlike Tsunade Gaara still has his auto-defense to minimize the effects of Shinra Tensei. He can use this same method to survive Chibaku Tensei. Gaara has been shown to be able to dig with his sand down to depths of 200 meters, probably even more now. If he were to latch onto his feet with his sand being that deep he's not going anywhere.

Side Notes:

- Nagatos biggest downfall in this fight is that he cannot move, if had the ability to move around he would destroy Gaara. I see him either being crushed or buried, heck, probably both.

- I'm not saying that Gaara would own him, or that he would win every time, but unlike many other characters in the manga he has a solid chance of doing it alone.

nice thread but i just don't see gaarra winning this one, i love gaara but he can't beat pain. mubt i will give u rep for trying

 

[Owarij]

Like I said, as long as Gaara does not attack with the sand in his gourd Preta Path won't be able to absorb the dry sand around him. I don't think Gaara infuses his chakra with sand already around him, he just manipulates it. It's been stated numerous times that Gaara can control sand at will. Another reason why I think this is because without the Shukaku Gaara has somehow been able to perform twice as much jutsus on the battlefield compared to his previous battles. I don't see any other explanation for that. That's just my guess though, I never said everything in my post was factual.

naw gaara passes chakra through the other sand also.. how do you think he controls it? :S mind control?

 

[Yo pappy]

nice thread but i just don't see gaarra winning this one, i love gaara but he can't beat pain. mubt i will give u rep for trying

Thanks.

naw gaara passes chakra through the other sand also.. how do you think he controls it? :S mind control?

Will powa! I don't know to be honest, if it was 100% clear on how he does it I wouldn't have even made this thread.