Gaara and Kisame vs Minato and Tobirama

[Rιver]

Are you trying to suggest the forest that Kisame and Bee dueled in had the same size trees as that in which Gaara and Gamabunta fought? I am hoping this is a misunderstanding, otherwise not much else to do here but tell you to reread both arcs. The different in size is noticeable.

Not sure why you're still on this; Naturally there will be mist between the two. It's literally fire hitting water, of course there's going to be a struggle between techniques. But, guess who's always the winner in the end? The Suiton technique, as I've already showed you the unneeded example and its literally been stated in the manga.

You here are telling me that Ponta is nearly bijū sized and that the landscapes were different, although I don't see almost any difference. Trees are trees, and we clearly saw both dwarfing human sized objects and organisms. Bunta is much bigger than Ponta, let alone the flames being bigger than the dome. It's even bigger than Kurama. Is the dome bigger than Kurama, or even as big? Exactly. It's just something that can't be argued about, we all know that.

You're right, as Fūton will always prove that Katon can become greater than Suiton. Which would happen in this case.​

Not sure what this is on; I was clearing up the comment you made on how Samehada must make contact to absorb the chakra.

Samehada needs contact to absorb ambient chakra. In the panel you showed, Kisame most likely absorbed it himself or Samehada used the sword as a medium.​

Once more; Clearing up a misconception that you made. They can, did you even read? What's stopping Kisame from making them, and letting the insignificant flesh between fingers rip and tear as he executes jutsu? It's really bizarre to believe he wouldn't do this if he really needed to get a technique off.

Mizu Bunshin of a Kisamehada would actually be a formidable foe, as opposed to most clones. Literally they'll absorb anything but physical blows, and to come in and do such a thing means you're likely to have chakra be sucked. Along with the obvious sensing and speed in the water, yeah. Dangerous.

... Okay, l0l.

Since when have Kisame's Mizu Bunshin have had a Samehada? If I'm correct, there is only one Samehada known

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. The only copy to wield it was Kisame's Zetsu copy, but hey, that's Zetsu who also had Itachi's Sharingan etc. Zetsu can form a perfect copy of someone by using one's chakra, and Samehada and Kisame have exactly identical chakra signature in case you wondered why he had that copy

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. So not only do they not have Samehada, but they also can't absorb incoming attacks e.g. Katon or Rasengan.​

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[TheAncientCenturion]

Like last time; you have till five to reconsider and edit before I can push out an appropriate response.

 

[Beans2]

TAC, I'm curious - you make arguments for the beach duo but in the end you say the FTG feggits win. How do you come to this conclusion?

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kisame and Gaara shits there literally there worst opponents for them. Both Alive Minato and Tobirama lack offensice skills to put down Kisame. Once Kisame absorbs Samehada it's game over.