'Fourth, your shunshin is better than mine...'

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Tobirama,after seeing it used only once, realized that minato's shunshin was better than his own. Its still a little vague as to how exactly tobirama's ftg works, but its been made clear that minato's is better. This was quite impressive since despite the fact that the 2nd spent his entire life growing up fighting, in the age before shinobi villages, he had a lot of time to hone his battle skills. (the shuunshin minato used= a battle skill). Moreover, seeing as how tobirama's best battle feat shown was him stabbing izuna using his shuunshin, for him to be beaten at what was his strength is a big praise for minato. Its quite reasonable to assume that minato was the strongest hokage ever after hashirama.

On another note, my guess is that tobiramas shuunshin either:
1. is just a variant of the body flicker. Or
2. Uses seals like minatos ftg, but is not instantaneous.

I think the 1st option is more likely, since the way he stabbed izuna and followed through, seems more like high speed body movement as opposed to minatos ftg. If it were minato, he wouldve probably stayed in front of izuna, since his only movement was the stabbing, i.e he appeared and stabbed. It looked like tobirama had some sort of momentum in his movement, not just 'appearing' and disappearing from a fixed point.

Last point. Minato's wife kushina was an uzumaki and she taught him many seals. Its likely that the seal on his ftg markings are a variant of an uzumaki seal. We dont know if tobirama knew much about fuuinjutsu, or seals he was just skilled at s.t . So its possible that despite being similar, the actual techs the 4th and 2nd used were completely different .

Thoughts?
 
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It impressed me as well, when the 2nd said minato's shunshins was better than his own. I Dont think people realize how good minato really is. He is underrated.
 

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I doubt Tobirama used FTG. He said his Shunshin was better, his body flicker was better. So this means that Minato's base speed>Tobirama's base speed. He has not said anything regarding S.T jutsu.
 
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It's simple: I think Tobirama opens a ST gate and travels through it after determining the destination. "Takes time"
Minato on the other hand opens 2 gates at once, get into one and instantly appears at the other!
Take this with a grain of salt though.
 

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Tobirama is the powerfullest water style user in the manga... You cant say Minato is better than 2nd amd 3rd hokages for one damn move

With that logic Itachi > ALL HOKAGES... TOTSUKA... See you cant base it off one move
 

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You're basing the strength of Minato off of a single justu which makes him superior to the other Hokage? I swear I'm so done with you fools.
Thank you for proving that youre an illiterate noob.
It impressed me as well, when the 2nd said minato's shunshins was better than his own. I Dont think people realize how good minato really is. He is underrated.
Fair enough.
It's simple: I think Tobirama opens a ST gate and travels through it after determining the destination. "Takes time"
Minato on the other hand opens 2 gates at once, get into one and instantly appears at the other!
Take this with a grain of salt though.
Finally, somebody who understands this isnt an omfg minato izz strong thread.

We'll need to see tobirama use his ftg to be sure, it hasnt exactly been shown yet. If there were gates, that would suggest he knows fuuinjutsu.
 

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Well Tobirama didn't say Minato's Hiraishin no Jutsu was better than his own, he said Minato's Shunshin was better than his own. Two different techniques. So yes he said Minato's was faster, but not that his FTG was better. I still think their FTG's are the same.
 

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Shunshin is the Body Flicker Technique, I too almost mis-read that. ;)

Tobirama's FTG is good no matter what, as even Izuna didn't see it coming, plus Tobirama is the greatest Suiton user and has shown great raw strength.
 

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If you look at the scans of Tobirama praising Minato, Tobirama has a "that bastard is better than me" face lol. I just noticed that now when I reread the chapter. Even when he says "You're quick to act" when Minato went into KCM and it about to teleport them, he has a similar face. At least I think he does, it's funny.
 

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I was dissapointed when he said that, after his rage mode in the Uchiha tablet room I thought he would have the better ST jutsu but looks like Kishi is giving all the attention to Minato, hope it doesnt stay like this.
 

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Tobirama is the powerfullest water style user in the manga... You cant say Minato is better than 2nd amd 3rd hokages for one damn move

With that logic Itachi > ALL HOKAGES... TOTSUKA... See you cant base it off one move
Get your live back from genjutsu little boy.....
 
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