Flaws in Sasuke's Plan

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And I'm saying sasuke sacrifices wouldn't be there in the first place if tobirama and danzo weren't there tryna obstruct peace simple as that

Okay...that still failed to address the point I was making, but okay...
 

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Here is where you wrong. A revolution usually grows on to that, but it starts with small spark just like anything else.
In the beginning minority usually revolts thus not everyone is on the same page.
Killing kages is important to make revolution smother and cuz they messed up and have to pay.
U can also say multiple ppl is jugo, suigetsu, Karin, orochimaru and sasuke so his point is in invalid ain't that right alpha?
 

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Here is where you wrong. A revolution usually grows on to that, but it starts with small spark just like anything else.
In the beginning minority usually revolts thus not everyone is on the same page.
Killing kages is important to make revolution smother and cuz they messed up and have to pay.

No, a revolution does not involve just one person, nobody is in agreement with Sasuke, I'm guessing in your opinion, John Wilkes Booth started a revolution by killing Lincoln?
 

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They got eradicated because they chose war over peaceful negotiations(not that I agree with that). I was talking about their treatment before they planned a coup, . I havent seen any evidence that the Uchiha were hated at all. Sasuke was the darling boy of the academy and everyone pretty much hated Itachi for what he did. Yes the Uchiha were treated unfairly, but it wasn't so bad that they had to resort to a civil war IMO.

He was going to kill off Karin after his fight with Danzo because he didnt need her anymore. Wonder what excuse you're going to come up with to justify that.


If you don't think they were hated then you probably don't think black people were hated either. Even orochimaru knew the uchiha were hated and even told Tobirama that he was the cause of their death. Go ahead and deny manga facts


Uchiha were persecuted, Hashirama even told Tobirama not to do so after Hashirama was going to take his own life for madara. His exact words to Tobirama were not to persecute the uchiha. Manga fact

Danzo purposely stopped shi sui from using ka on the uchiha because he wanted them eradicated because he knew shi sui ka plan would stop the coup from every happening. Manga fact
 
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No, a revolution does not involve just one person, nobody is in agreement with Sasuke, I'm guessing in your opinion, John Wilkes Booth started a revolution by killing Lincoln?

Karin suigetsu orochimaru and jugo say hi
 

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U can also say multiple ppl is jugo, suigetsu, Karin, orochimaru and sasuke so his point is in invalid ain't that right alpha?

That still wouldn't be a revolution, as the only people agreeing with Sasuke are his four followers, he'd need unrelated citizens like the people of Konoha or Kumo to agree with him to start an actual civil revolt, at best he plans a coup.
 

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No it does u just don't get it but whatever I'll leave it at that tho

My point was that Sasuke was unjustified, just like Obito, who was responsible for the losses is inconsequential...you know, I'm gonna go out on a limb here...are you 12 or something?
 

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That still wouldn't be a revolution, as the only people agreeing with Sasuke are his four followers, he'd need unrelated citizens like the people of Konoha or Kumo to agree with him to start an actual civil revolt, at best he plans a coup.
Ur just denying it now that is a revolution multiple ppl which are them going against the government
 

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Here is where you wrong. A revolution usually grows on to that, but it starts with small spark just like anything else.
In the beginning minority usually revolts thus not everyone is on the same page.
Killing kages is important to make revolution smother and cuz they messed up and have to pay.

@bold- Villains like Madara, Obito, Fugaku, the general Uchiha clan barring Shisui/Kagami/Itachi, and Sasuke caused most of the problems in the shinobi world. The kages have turned from their less-than-moral ways and have helped out in the way for genuine motives, they're even in an alliance now. They don't "have to pay" a thing.
If anything, the Uchiha need to pay. Sasuke included.
 

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Ur just denying it now that is a revolution multiple ppl which are them going against the government

Yeah, pretty sure you must be, because these arguments make absolutely zero sense.
 

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@bold- Villains like Madara, Obito, Fugaku, the general Uchiha clan barring Shisui/Kagami/Itachi, and Sasuke caused most of the problems in the shinobi world. The kages have turned from their less-than-moral ways and have helped out in the way for genuine motives, they're even in an alliance now. They don't "have to pay" a thing.
If anything, the Uchiha need to pay. Sasuke included.

Tobirama who is a kage started this by showing his hate towards them and made madras leave and the rest is history
 

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No if someone needs something clarified so anyone can understand they can ask a question and it's not a conversation if ur insulting someone in it that just leads to argument
idrc what your definition of a conversation is, i was having one with somebody else and you saw fit to interject yourself in it w/o being able to grasp what it was about. And oh, you chose to do it while throwing stones from inside your glass house.
 

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Tobirama who is a kage started this by showing his hate towards them and made madras leave and the rest is history

And Indra started the Curse of Hatred that made Tobirama the way he was.
 

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Yeah, pretty sure you must be, because these arguments make absolutely zero sense.

Are u stupid like honestly u said clearly what a revolution is u think sasuke the only one he got his team still which is not just him that are multiple ppl gonna follow him to lead a revolution ima ask u a question are u a retard? Or a failed troll?
 

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No, a revolution does not involve just one person, nobody is in agreement with Sasuke, I'm guessing in your opinion, John Wilkes Booth started a revolution by killing Lincoln?

Who cares if he is alone? There are like 4 people awake atm. Sasuke intends to bring a change and he has power to do so.
And there can be found examples where single person made a change.

Not to mention that 6 people dead in revolution is as peaceful as one can get in militaristic shinobi world.
 

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Are u stupid like honestly u said clearly what a revolution is u think sasuke the only one he got his team still which is not just him that are multiple ppl gonna follow him to lead a revolution ima ask u a question are u a retard? Or a failed troll?

Do you know what a revolution is? Do you know what a coup is? Seriously, are you 12?
 

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idrc what your definition of a conversation is, i was having one with somebody else and you saw fit to interject yourself in it w/o being able to grasp what it was about. And oh, you chose to do it while throwing stones from inside your glass house.

All I said was u don't prove a point by insulting someone lol and u get so butthurt bout it u can't even clarify to who u were talking bout its a simple question where u talking bout sasuke or hitler in ur first thread
 

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Who cares if he is alone? There are like 4 people awake atm. Sasuke intends to bring a change and he has power to do so.
And there can be found examples where single person made a change.

Not to mention that 6 people dead in revolution is as peaceful as one can get in militaristic shinobi world.
Yeah, other than maybe talking to those same 5 people as they're likely willing to talk now...I imagine you could save even more lives that way...either way, Sasuke would still have to kill everyone that disagrees with him *cough*the world*cough*!
 
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