Finally, we can completely understand how Kamui works.

[EliteKakashi]

ah considering that they were in Kakuzu's body and Kakashi's skill level at the time, Kakuzu would probably lose a limb or something similar and regrow/compensate for it with his Earth Grudge Fear Transformation.

But it seems a bit far fetched (though not impossible) that he managed to instantly warp away something of that size considering his stamina and how draining his ocular jutsu is.

He warped away Deidara's explosion instantly, so I don't see him having any issue with that.

 

[kakashi owns all]

ah considering that they were in Kakuzu's body and Kakashi's skill level at the time, Kakuzu would probably lose a limb or something similar and regrow/compensate for it with his Earth Grudge Fear Transformation.

But it seems a bit far fetched (though not impossible) that he managed to instantly warp away something of that size considering his stamina and how draining his ocular jutsu is.

loss a limb? kakashi never makes the same mistake twice he would take out the hole think not like deidara

i dont get all the hate on his stamina look at him in war

countless lighting blades ( part one only 4)

battled and defeated the 7 swordmen

battled with many tailed beast

battled with tobi/ 10 tails

2 times he used the ms

 

[Dantee]

Already knew this but didn't want to admit it. Kakashi > almost everyone now. Hooray.

 

[kakashi owns all]

Already knew this but didn't want to admit it. Kakashi > almost everyone now. Hooray.

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[EliteKakashi]

Already knew this but didn't want to admit it. Kakashi > almost everyone now. Hooray.

In a 1v1, pretty much...until he goes blind, anyway.

That's why he'll never be allowed to fight someone 1v1 in this manga..unless it's someone like Tobi who it doesn't work on.

That's why Kishi's probably waited til now to "reveal" that Kakashi can put how much ever chakra he wants to in it..because we're at the final arc of the manga.

I still won't resort to Kamui(unless for defensive measures) in vs thread debates though. That's cheap as all ****.

 

[FizzyDrink]

It's interesting, but I do believe that your point about Gedo Mazo is incorrect. Tobi I believe did something to stop the warping of Gedo Mazo, Gedo Mazo itself is not immune to being warped.

Also, I'm not entirely sure about "the more chakra he puts into it, the faster it warps. The speed in my opinion depends on the mass of the object being warped, and he can only warp at a certain speed. Of course, that is entirely built upon opinion I THINK.

Also, about the Kakuzu thing, if Kakuzu has his hearts out, Kakashi wouldn't have time to use Kamui in my opinion. This is based off of the idea that he can't warp things instantly.

It's interesting, but I don't honestly think that if he puts enough chakra in. he can make something disappear just like that, in the blink of an eye. Every time he's used it it seems as though it has taken some time to warp, and the larger the target the more times it takes.

 

[Lentz]

I'm surprised anyone could claim they "know how something works" in the manga. Knowing how something works means you can do it yourself, right?

 

[Negative Knight]

It's interesting, but I do believe that your point about Gedo Mazo is incorrect. Tobi I believe did something to stop the warping of Gedo Mazo, Gedo Mazo itself is not immune to being warped.

Also, I'm not entirely sure about "the more chakra he puts into it, the faster it warps. The speed in my opinion depends on the mass of the object being warped, and he can only warp at a certain speed. Of course, that is entirely built upon opinion I THINK.

Also, about the Kakuzu thing, if Kakuzu has his hearts out, Kakashi wouldn't have time to use Kamui in my opinion. This is based off of the idea that he can't warp things instantly.

It's interesting, but I don't honestly think that if he puts enough chakra in. he can make something disappear just like that, in the blink of an eye. Every time he's used it it seems as though it has taken some time to warp, and the larger the target the more times it takes.

very true, a lot of the assumptions on the thread are based on the recent chapter's disappearance of Gedo Mazou

For all we know Tobi could of used his own S/T ninjutsu to warp it away

one more point we saw Gedo Mazou being warped so it cancels out the idea of instantaneous Kamui

 

[EliteKakashi]

It's interesting, but I do believe that your point about Gedo Mazo is incorrect. Tobi I believe did something to stop the warping of Gedo Mazo, Gedo Mazo itself is not immune to being warped.

Also, I'm not entirely sure about "the more chakra he puts into it, the faster it warps. The speed in my opinion depends on the mass of the object being warped, and he can only warp at a certain speed. Of course, that is entirely built upon opinion I THINK.

Also, about the Kakuzu thing, if Kakuzu has his hearts out, Kakashi wouldn't have time to use Kamui in my opinion. This is based off of the idea that he can't warp things instantly.

It's interesting, but I don't honestly think that if he puts enough chakra in. he can make something disappear just like that, in the blink of an eye. Every time he's used it it seems as though it has taken some time to warp, and the larger the target the more times it takes.

Every use of it pretty much says he can control how fast it warps. Deidara's explosion was huge, but he got it instantly. He warped away the Susannoo arrows(which is one of the fastest techniques in the manga) instantly. And it's shown that it requires more chakra to do it, and him saying he's gathered enough chakra to warp Gedo Mazo is just Kishi giving us the "final piece to the puzzle" that is kamui.

In regards to Tobi/Gedo Mazo, you may be correct. Not really sure myself.

 

[EliteKakashi]

I'm surprised anyone could claim they "know how something works" in the manga. Knowing how something works means you can do it yourself, right?

Really?

You're going to be THAT guy?

 

[kakashi owns all]

It's interesting, but I do believe that your point about Gedo Mazo is incorrect. Tobi I believe did something to stop the warping of Gedo Mazo, Gedo Mazo itself is not immune to being warped.

Also, I'm not entirely sure about "the more chakra he puts into it, the faster it warps. The speed in my opinion depends on the mass of the object being warped, and he can only warp at a certain speed. Of course, that is entirely built upon opinion I THINK.

Also, about the Kakuzu thing, if Kakuzu has his hearts out, Kakashi wouldn't have time to use Kamui in my opinion. This is based off of the idea that he can't warp things instantly.

It's interesting, but I don't honestly think that if he puts enough chakra in. he can make something disappear just like that, in the blink of an eye. Every time he's used it it seems as though it has taken some time to warp, and the larger the target the more times it takes.

what about the explosion he had to that instant and it has very large

 

[kakashi owns all]

very true, a lot of the assumptions on the thread are based on the recent chapter's disappearance of Gedo Mazou

For all we know Tobi could of used his own S/T ninjutsu to warp it away

one more point we saw Gedo Mazou being warped so it cancels out the idea of instantaneous Kamui

no its just he did not pore all his chacra in it if he had it would have been

 

[Lentz]

Really?

You're going to be THAT guy?

Haha, relax, I'm just having some fun here. I don't know, I'm an engineer, that's how we think. I know how paper plane glides through the air, I'll make a good one. I know how an engine works, bring me the parts and I'll assemble one. I know how suiton works, here, I'll spit an entire ocean out of my mouth.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Haha, relax, I'm just having some fun here. I don't know, I'm an engineer, that's how we think. I know how paper plane glides through the air, I'll make a good one. I know how an engine works, bring me the parts and I'll assemble one. I know how suiton works, here, I'll spit an entire ocean out of my mouth.

I don't guess it was the best choice of words, but everyone gets the point, lol.

 

[Lentz]

I don't guess it was the best choice of words, but everyone gets the point, lol.

Then my work here is done.

 

[kakashi owns all]

so with this in mind who can beat kakashi one on one other then tobi

 

[FizzyDrink]

Every use of it pretty much says he can control how fast it warps. Deidara's explosion was huge, but he got it instantly. He warped away the Susannoo arrows(which is one of the fastest techniques in the manga) instantly. And it's shown that it requires more chakra to do it, and him saying he's gathered enough chakra to warp Gedo Mazo is just Kishi giving us the "final piece to the puzzle" that is kamui.

In regards to Tobi/Gedo Mazo, you may be correct. Not really sure myself.

First of all, I said it takes more time to warp things with a greater MASS. An explosion actually doesn't have that great of mass. It would be easier to warp away. And a Susanoo arrow may not have great mass either, all we know that it is big, not that it has a large mass (similar to the explosion).

And maybe him gathering enough chakra to warp away Gedo Mazo proves MY point. He needed to know that he would have enough chakra to warp something that large, and so gathered it up to make sure he had enough. But it still took time. And the fact that it took time is why it failed. If he had done it instantly, Tobi wouldn't have had time to stop it. And since Kakashi would have no reason to believe that Gedo Mazo can counter Kamui (which it can't) there is reason to warp it immediately, ESPECIALLY since he actually KNOWS that Tobi can counter his Kamui. So the fact that he didn't warp away the head instantly is actually more proof that he CAN'T warp things instantly.

 

[EliteKakashi]

so with this in mind who can beat kakashi one on one other then tobi

There's still people capable of it. There's bunshin feats, characters capable of killing with just 1 hit(Sasori comes to mind), genjutsu, etc.

Kakashi would still have to fight to figure out the opponents abilities. He ain't just gonna start firing off kamui. He knows he'd get himself killed doing that. So there's still people capable of beating him, but it would be extremely difficult for them.

 

[kakashi owns all]

There's still people capable of it. There's bunshin feats, characters capable of killing with just 1 hit(Sasori comes to mind), genjutsu, etc.

Kakashi would still have to fight to figure out the opponents abilities. He ain't just gonna start firing off kamui. He knows he'd get himself killed doing that. So there's still people capable of beating him, but it would be extremely difficult for them.

itachi- all his gen are short range making it hard to catch him

nagato- no moment without summons making him a target if many long range moves

sasori- the guy has a big target on his body i think kakashi will get it

could go on

 

[Bogard]

I agree with you and i've to tell you that i already noticed it since the fight against Pain when he said "my amount of chakra is not enough to take his hole body(talking about Asura)". It's when i saw that in the contrary of the popular belief, it's not that he was limited in 2/3kamuis everyday, but that it depends on what he wants to send in another dimension. That's why he only slightly struggled after warping Sasukes Susanoo arrows, but said it would take him more chakra to warp Tobi entirely