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Okay so this training will be set up with both me and my sempai, Ares, teaching you the basics and jutsu of Water release and making sure you understand them at the same time. Towards the end, we will turn this into a more rp streamed training and have a small fight with you using water only. Do bad and we start go back a rank in training. :p Lol, anyway are you ready to begin?
 

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Good. Let's begin. First, I want you to give me your definition of chakra, a ninja, ninjutsu, elemental ninjutsu, suiton ninjutsu, it's uses, what some advantages/disadvantages of using water release are and last but most important, why did you want to learn water release?
 

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Chakra - is the moulding of physical energy(which is present through out the body) and spiritual energy(which you get from your mind), it is essential to even the most basic technique and once it is mastered it allows the user to do awesome things like walk on water, exhale fire and even create illusions - Ninjas - are individuals who will perform a mission for a fee, missions that include assassinating people, gathering information, manual labour, etc. An obvious characteristic for a ninja is their ability to manipulate chakra to create and use techniques - Ninjutsu - allows the user to do something that they usually won't be able to do, it also allows experienced ninja to use their surroundings to their advantage when they are using elemental jutsu - Elemental*Ninjutsu - is an advanced form of chakra control. It allows the user to add his chakra nature to his ninjutsu and allows the user to perform ninjutsu that is enhanced by the combination of shape manipulation and nature manipulation - Suiton*Ninjutsu - is 1 of the 5 basic nature elements.it allows the user to manipulate pre-existing water or to create their own by turning their chakra into water, water is also 1 of the most versatile of the 5 chakra natures because it can not only change shape but state as well - Uses - useful to extinguish fires - Advantages - can be used with lightning to increase the flow of electricity and damage and opponent even more, it can also be used with wind to increase the power of water techniques - Disadvantages - is weak against earth because it can easily be absorbed - Reason*for*Suiton - my favourite element
 
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Chakra - is the moulding of physical energy(which is present through out the body) and spiritual energy(which you get from your mind), it is essential to even the most basic technique and once it is mastered it allows the user to do awesome things like walk on water, exhale fire and even create illusions -

Ninjas - are individuals who will perform a mission for a fee, missions that include assassinating people, gathering information, manual labour, etc. An obvious characteristic for a ninja is their ability to manipulate chakra to create and use techniques -

Ninjutsu - allows the user to do something that they usually won't be able to do, it also allows experienced ninja to use their surroundings to their advantage when they are using elemental jutsu -

Elemental*Ninjutsu - is an advanced form of chakra control. It allows the user to add his chakra nature to his ninjutsu and allows the user to perform ninjutsu that is enhanced by the combination of shape manipulation and nature manipulation -

Suiton*Ninjutsu - is 1 of the 5 basic nature elements.it allows the user to manipulate pre-existing water or to create their own by turning their chakra into water, water is also 1 of the most versatile of the 5 chakra natures because it can not only change shape but state as well -

Uses - useful to extinguish fires -

Advantages - can be used with lightning to increase the flow of electricity and damage and opponent even more, it can also be used with wind to increase the power of water techniques -

Disadvantages - is weak against earth because it can easily be absorbed -

Reason*for*Suiton - my favourite element
I spaced it out to make it easier to understand but your answers lack depth. Ninjutsu for example are techniques used by ninja, most cases requiring the molding of chakra. Shape manipulation and nature manipulation is what allows us to turn ninjutsu into elemental ninjutsu.

Water jutsus have a wide array of usages actually. Water is a more or less passive element by nature. It flows freely and takes the shape of whatever it is contained in. I call it passive as it is a yielding element which goes and flows however the external forces and nature dictate it to. For example; still water will move and ripple at the slightest touch, a river flowing straight will move around a rock and take an alternate direction instead of just going through the rock. Wind can cause water to move in different directions. This is one of the reasons why water, a yielding element, is opposite to earth, an unyielding element. That rock in the bank of the river will not move for the water, it will stay firm. If the rock were to walk through the river straight, the water would go around the rock, not the other way around. This is a rudimentary understanding, however water itself can be very powerful and forceful. A large enough mass of water may disroot the rock if strong enough. Water may be condensed to a fine area and move at great speeds to cause a powerful impact. That is where variables come in, which is what any element manipulates, the variables of the properties that can enhance an element's potential. If you want to look at things in terms of balance, Taoism and philosophies behind water and it's general movement. Water is the Yin half, not forceful, yielding and water redirects energy instead of meeting it head on. The Chinese Internal styles of martial arts talk about redirecting your opponents force back onto them which is essentially a property of water (the redirection that is). Force is not met with force rather the force is allowed to continue until redirected suddenly, often times against even harder forces that are much stronger. An example would be if somebody were to punch you. They are traveling in one direction at a certain speed. You simply move out of the way while guiding the fist further in that direction, increasing the speed. Should there be a wall behind them, they make impact with that wall and most often hurt their hand.

Now, water jutsus can be divided into four subcategories.

Method 1: Basic Projectiles

Alright these techniques involve creating projectiles like shuriken or kunai. Shuriken and Kunai are examples of projectiles and are not limited to that scope. When you hear and think of projectiles, you think of objects that you launch or project towards your opponent. They're something that leaves your possession and treavels towards your opponent. There is nothing different when it comes to suiton projectiles. All you're doing is launching water at your opponent as you would any other projectile. Now, with water and any other element that uses projectiles you tend to use a lot of shape manipulation. Reason is, is because you need to make the projectiles strong enough damage your opponent (pierce them, knock them back with blunt force, etc). Water or any other element at its base is just raw unformed element. By using shape manipulation you form the shape of the projectile you want. As well, you also compress the element to a degree which allows for a certain density which is always good. With these water projectiles, you will be exhaling them from the mouth. You will first inhale and focus the chakra from your core and channel it up into your lungs and mouth. You will then exhale; the chakra you gathered in your lungs helps propel the water, and the mouth is the point of release. You use shape manipulation to then form the water into whatever shape you need it to be, whether it be a ball or something more advanced like a shark. The water is also compressed in a tight container (the boundaries you create by shaping it) therefore when it makes impact with the target they'll generally receive a blunt impact that knocks them back, has the capability to knock the wind out of them, bruise them, maybe break bones or damage the organs and cause shock. Also, if fast enough and small enough, the density from the tightly compressed nature and the speed may be able to pierce like a bullet. Using other mediums of release for projectiles, you would simply channel your chakra into a different location and then follow the rest of the procedures of releasing the water, and shaping it for the desired effect.

Method 2: Streams/Water Sources

This method involves creating constant streams of water as well as creating water sources. What I mean is, the techniques in this method continuously releases water and/or creates such a large mass of water, it provides a suitable water source for you to use other Suiton techniques that do need a source of water. Now what this would mean is, you have to constantly fuel the techniques with your chakra in order to keep the on pour of water coming out or else you will not be able to create the streams or the large masses of water. These techniques don't generally require a large amount of shape manipulation. Some techniques do however most are just you creating a mass of water or stream of water where you would, therefore, simply pour your chakra into the technique and create an unfocused wave of water that travels towards your destination. These techniques also provide you with a wider and, potentially longer, range of reach to your opponents. There is also the granted advantage of control over the technique. As opposed to projectiles, where you release them and their self-sustaining nature takes over and there is no further control from the users, most of these techniques allow for you to manipulate in different general directions to allow you to hit your target even if they move out of the immediate range.

Method 3: Water Manipulation

Alright, so we've covered techniques that come from one's own body, creating projectiles, streams and even our own water sources. Now we're onto techniques that require the usage of an existing source of water. This method focuses on using water from a water source and manipulating it to form the techniques we want. When going about using these techniques, you expel the chakra from your body into the water source as opposed to the previous methods where you'd manifest the chakra itself into water. There are a few exceptions I believe, within this method, however most of these techniques require a water source in order for you to use them. Now, the properties of these techniques vary. There may be projectile type techniques or continuous techniques that require you to constantly focus chakra in order to use. In essence, these techniques may exhibit qualities of water techniques in previous methods but the unique thing about this method would be that you'd need a water source for these.

Method 4: Alternative Releases (Water/Oil/Syrup)

This method will be easy. Basically these are techniques that create a different substance than the water, however, they still fall within the category of Suiton release. They are liquids that possess different properties than ordinary water, for example: Oil and syrup. Oil is a flammable substance, one wouldn't use this to combat fire but rather fuel it, and with syrup you create a much stickier viscosity of liquid that doesn't necessarily flow as fast as water but it gives a more adhesive property to it.

Method 5: Specifics

Basically, these are techniques that don’t fall within the above listed categories. These techniques may possess similar qualities to the techniques in some of the other methods, however, for the most part they are more unique in their abilities and aren’t classifiable in this system together in other methods.

With that being said, can you tell me some advantages and disadvantages to each individual method, not counting the 5th one. I also want you to find me an example of each in the water jutsu list. This is just to gauge your level of understanding within this training. :)
 

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Thank you firstly for spacing out my answers, I'm sorry about those horrible answers I gave but I was having a problem with my phone at the time, secondly thank you for the awesome, detailed descriptions, I really understand Suiton a whole lot better

BASIC PROJECTILES

ADVANTAGES

• The most obvious advantage is being able to create kunai and shuriken by using your Suiton chakra and shape manipulation
• If you are out of regular weapons, this will allow you to create them using your chakra
• Allows you to badly injure your opponent if done right

DISADVANTAGES

• Using this ability repeatedly will drain your chakra
• You always have to concentrate while creating these projectiles, leaving yourself open to an attack

(Suiton : Haretsu sui Yashi) - Water Release : Water Bursting Palm
Rank : C
Type : Offensive
Range : Short
Chakra cost : 15
Damage points : 30
Description : After making the Ram hand seal the user generates water around their right arm and then by thrusting their arm forwards they release the water in the form of a projectile bullet that drives through the opponent pushing them back several feet

STREAMS/WATER SOURCES

ADVANTAGES

• Great way to create your own water source for future techniques
• Covers a wider range of attack
• Because a lot of shape manipulation isn't required, this techniques can be done faster than those that need shape manipulation

DISADVANTAGES

• Takes a lot of chakra to maintain
• Doesn't have a great deal of accuracy
• Because you are constantly blowing out water, your cannot see what's directly in front of you

(Suiton : Seisuiryu) - Water Release : Azure Water Stream
Rank : C
Type : Offensive
Range : Short-Mid
Chakra cost : 15
Damage points : 30
Description : The user will create a moving body of water beneath him that travels towards the opponent carrying the user. They then slash the opponent with their sword mulitple times

WATER MANIPULATION

ADVANTAGES

• If you are near a lake, the amount of techniques you could use is only limited by your chakra
• You can use techniques of a much larger scale because you have a water source and don't have to create 1

DISADVANTAGES

• In a place like Suna, these techniques will be almost useless
• The fact that your opponent can see you manipulating the water source, he can counter

(Suiton : Daibakuryuu) - Water Release : Great Exploding Current
Rank : C
Type : Attack
Range : Short-Mid
Chakra cost : 15
Damage Points : 30
Description : User creates a whirlpool that sucks any opponent in range underwater
Note : Must be performed on a water source

ALTERNATIVE RELEASES

ADVANTAGES

• Can be used to set your opponent up for next attack
• Syrup is much thicker than water, if you use it on your opponent, he won't be able to move as freely

DISADVANTAGES

• Since they are slower than water, your opponent has time to counter
• If you you oil on the battlefield, your opponent can also take advantage of it with Katon techniques

(Suiton : Kokuun) - Water Style : Black Clouds
Rank : C
Type : Supplementary
Range : Short-Mid
Chakra cost : 15
Damage points : N/A
Description : After performing the Ram->Snake->Tiger hand seals the user creates a flammable black mist that forms a small cloud. The user can then move the cloud above their target and disperse it, covering the target in flammable oil
 

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Excellent! Now, we've covered the general mechanics behind water release. Now we can move on to the actual techniques. My sempai will be doing the bulk of this work himself, with me finishing the S ranks via rp with you. I want you to do something for me though. With each of your replies, I want you to use the jutsu he teaches you alongside another jutsu of the opposing nature (in this case, Earth Release) in a creative combo and Shady will state whether the combo would work or not and why. This way, you both get practical training in usage of the jutsus and explaining them further. This will make you a better battler, and him a better trainer, so you both win! When you do this, write it in a spoiler like below:

I'd use the D rank (Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique to create a small pillar of water underneath them if we both stand on water to lift them in the air towards me as i release the B rank ( Katon: Hi no Iki ) - Fire Release: Fire Breath at them as they move towards me. Granted, it's a weak combo, but if the counter with the element I think they would (water in most cases due to elemental weaknesses), i'm able to easily use a water jutsu as well or a more powerful fire jutsu to clash with the water and cause a steam to emit from it, clouding my movements and later, my next jutsu.

Of course, you will use water and earth, instead of water and fire. Next my sempai will be posting so good luck with training until we meet later! ^^
 
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Heyyyyyyyyyy! Alright im this shady he spoke of and I'll be giving you the run down on all water techniques up to your rank.

Let me know if you'd rather implement rp into the training or nah, but VM me when you reply. K?
 

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Okay senpai, thank you for teaching me as I know you are busy with the war and stuff so I really appreciate it. To be honest I'd rather you tell me whether we use the RP format or not because I want you to enjoy teaching me and not get bored XD I hope its not aproblem but I haven't started Doton training yet because I can't find a sensei yet and I just became an S-Class which Is why I didn't start I previously
 
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(Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points:20
Description: Creates small waves of water,small blasts, and small shields of water.
Note: Doesn't require a water source but can be used to manipulate existing water.

This technique is quite simple. Use your chakra control to manipulate either existing water or water you conjure up. You can do small blasts, waves, shields etc. You don't need any hand seals and at most will require hand gestures. Basically can use it in numerous ways as long as it is small.
 

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I begin by performing the Snake hand seal and slamming my hands on the ground, once I slam my hands on the ground I channel my chakra into the ground to perform the C Rank Doton jutsu (Doton: Tsuchi Douyou no Hira) – Earth Release: Earth Shaking Palm which makes pieces of rubble emerge from the ground to distract my opponent who is short range from me, while he is distracted I gather my raw chakra in my stomach, I then use nature transformation to change my raw chakra into Suiton chakra. I then release my Suiton chakra through my mouth to perform the Suiton jutsu (Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique which allows me to shoot blasts of water at my opponent, hitting him as he is distracted by my previous jutsu
 

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Eh, the combo works but would be both hard to pull off and would leave you open. A better approach in short range would be something that doesn't need you to kneel down to the ground and occupy your hands, followed by blasting them. Shoot, some C-rank earth spikes from all directions followed by the water attack, or better yet the water projectile first then as they defend that you could use something below them to attack.




(Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This displacement technique creates a thick mist to spring forth by lifting up some water from either a pre-existing source or expelled from their mouth, then goes in and out of sight at will from within the pearly-white realm. The mist's thickness is controlled by the amount of chakra kneaded into it. It can't fool the Byakugan, but, due to the mist being created with the user's chakra, any Sharingan and Rinnegan-user will see the mist coloured by their opponent's chakra, which will effectively hide the user from the dōjutsu.
Note: Can be created through releasing from mouth or manipulating a nearby water source.

this next jutsu is quite a famous one, it's the Hiding in Mist jutsu. First, I want you to either, manipulate the water of the lake, or any nearby Water source for the jutsu or you can just use your own Water based chakra to create the mist by expelling it from your mouth. Then, within seconds of it being released, the mist will hide your presence from your enemy and allow you to make some sneaky moves. It's quite useful against Sharingan and Rinnegan users, as they can't see through the mist because it is laced with your chakra, and they will only see a huge chakra blob. The Byakugan on the other hand, can see right through it.(Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu
 

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As my opponent stands at mid-range from me, I look at him in his eyes as I get ready to perform my next jutsu. i begin gathering chakra in my mouth, I continue gathering chakra before I start changing my raw chakra into Suiton chakra, once my Suiton chakra is moulded properly, I release it through my mouth in the form of a thick mist that covers the battle field by performing the Suiton jutsu (Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu. As my location is hidden from my opponent, I perform the Rat hand seal and start gathering chakra thoughout my body, I then start changing my raw chakra into Doton chakra. I then begin releasing it into the Earth to make several to make several sections of rock, I then use my chakra to compress the rocks to make to big rocks that are either side of my opponent, I then control them and make them slam together, crushing my opponent after I performed the C-Rank Doton jutsu (Doton: Ganban Kyu) - Earth Release: Bedrock Coffin
 

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Good, good. Keep it up Lee-sama.

(Suiton: Mizu Kuri No Yaiba) - Water Style: Sword of Draining
Rank: D
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: A technique that utilizes water to create a sword. The sword can be wielded in the normal fashion, allowing the ninja to cut and stab like with a normal blade.
Note: Doesn't require a water source.

Using the water create a sword made of pure water and stab or slash my clone like a normal sword.


( Suiton: Junsai no Jutsu ) - Water Release: Water Shield Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary, Defence
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user will manipulate their water chakra and releasing it from their arm which is held outwards in front of them and they then create a shield of water that can aide in defence against projectile weapons and close combat techniques.

Using your water chakra release it from your arm outwards and create a shield of water to protect you from close combat attacks, kunai, swords etc.
 

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Thank you Shady-senpai xD

I begin by gathering chakra throughout my body, i continue gathering chakra before I begin releasing it from various points in my body and into the water. Once my chakra is in the water, I use shape manipulation to make the water that is infused with my chakra to take the shape of a long, sharp sword by using the Suiton jutsu (Suiton: Mizu Kuri No Yaiba) - Water Style: Sword of Draining to stab senpais clone. While he is suffering with the pain and has his hand on his stab would, I quickly perform the Snake hand seal, I begin gathering my chakra into my right arm, once I gather enough chakra, I begin changing my raw chakra into Doton chakra by using nature manipulation. I then begin releasing my Doton chakra from my right arm and use shape manipulation to make it form rock around my arm like a protector, i then punch senpais clone with my rock arm after performing the C-Rank Doton jutsu (Doton: Kengan no Jutsu) - Earth Release: Fist Rock Technique



I begin by gathering chakra in my right arm, I gather more chakra before I begin turning my raw chakra into Suiton chakra. Once my Suiton chakra is moulded preperly, I begin releasing it through my mt right arm while using shape manipulation to make my Suiton chakra take the form of a shield that is attached to my arm by performing the Suiton jutsu (Suiton: Junsai no Jutsu ) - Water Release: Water Shield Technique to protect me from the kunai that were thrown at me. As I continue holding the Suiton shield with my right hand, I begin gathering chakra in my left hand, I gather more chakra before I begin turning my raw chakra into Doton chakra. I then begin releasing my Doton chakra through my left hand and use shape manipulation to make them form a ring of rocks that I control and fling them at my opponent by using the D-Rank Doton jutsu (Doton: Iwa Rendan ) - Earth Release: Rock Barrage as a counter
 

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(Suiton: Suiben) - Water Release: Water whip
Rank: C
Type: Offensive, supplementary
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: After the user performs a series of 3 hand seals Rat → Dog → Ox, the user creates a whip of water that can be used to strike the opponent with a lashing action or wrap around the target to bind them. This technique can also have lightning techniques channeled through when they have bound their victim with the water whip.

Simple technique here. Perform the needed three hand seals Rat → Dog → Ox, which allows you to manipulate water particles and create a whip made of condensed water. With this you could lash out at the opponent like Catwoman or something, grab objects/opponents to pull them to you, bind them or pull yourself to it. Pretty versatile technique that you could also channel lightning through to make more lethal.

(Suiton: Mizuame Nababara) - Water Style: Starch Syrup Capture Field
Rank: C
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user After performing the required hand seals Ram → Tiger spits out high-viscosity, chakra infused water, aimed at a surface of wide scope. This is a stream of sticky liquid which can be used to form an adhesive trap that can inhibit a person's mobility. One can effectively reduce their enemy's area of activity with this technique, and has the effect of being able to take complete control over the battlefield. The normal scope of this technique is normally just a few metres, but if prepared, it is also possible to make an entire pond of starch syrup. Being caught in the technique can be avoided by channelling chakra to one's feet allowing one to walk upon it uninhibited, beforehand.

Do the required hand seals Ram → Tiger , which is going to let you spew out highly sticky water, as if you were spitting out a syrupy substance that is very adhesive. You could range the amount of syrup spit out from just enough to cover a body to a small pond of sticky water. The water is sticky enough to limit your opponents mobility and leave him open for attacks afterwards. You could also continue to use the water for other techniques after you use it, making other techniques being made of sticky water. I.e. after creating a pond of syrup water, use water beast to create a sticky water beast to attack with.
 
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