Just_Red
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Of 6 flips town, the ppl that leaded the lynch will be sus for sure
If he flips mafia, then the ppl that suported him will look sus
If he flips other, then no progress
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If he flips mafia, then the ppl that suported him will look sus
If he flips other, then no progress
ScarletCelestial
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Like it's less about him being scummy it's more about me reading most other people Town, and Hokage happens to be the viable lynch at this point.
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Who do you think leaded the lynch?
Who do you think would be his supporters, or at least be possible partners?
I don't really agree. Since scum wouldn't know if he was other or not, I think the approach is very similar to if he were Town imo.
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ScarletCelestial
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I kinda listed my PoE before, but today I was left with Hokage, Sesh, Poison?, somebody else can't remember who. However I kinda removed Poison for reasons between then and now.
Konno I don't think is scum, as behaviourally I doubt they'd use the type of read they had on you as scum: a mechanical one which can be easily be proven upon flip.
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Proven as in whether it's a lie or not.
Just_Red
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I think the person that leaded his lunch would be odd.
Supports would include dr strange, me (cause im not voting him) and possibly you if you disagree with the lynch
ScarletCelestial
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Do you think it fits with how Odd was very against Ryu and by how both Ryu and Soul had issues with Odd?
Could it be considered support if I haven't moved my vote at all? Do you think Dr. Strange would fit as a partner considering how he was the attempted counter to Ryu? Would anybody at the back of the wagon, who voted only when it grew very large, be considered suspects too?
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I'll recheck the first day phase, I was in this game at the time. And I do suspect 6th and red. You can check my latter posts. And I guess it is possible my reads on Dr. Strange are off. So after I review the first day phase I'll make a final decision for my vote.
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I can tell from your game you are pretty good player . I can easily tell you are veteran mafia player !
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Just_Red
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No.
Dr will still be sus, cause for all we know, he prob voted ryu when the train grwew very large.
Odd is forsure town but if he is wrong about this it'll question his standing. He could be indepent if he is wrong about 6th.
Everyone that voted 6th at the end when the train got big, cannot be counted. Only the leader shuold be held responsible.
Dr will still be sus, cause for all we know, he prob voted ryu when the train grwew very large.
Odd is forsure town but if he is wrong about this it'll question his standing. He could be indepent if he is wrong about 6th.
Everyone that voted 6th at the end when the train got big, cannot be counted. Only the leader shuold be held responsible.
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I wanted to post my reads but almost nothing changed, i had Red and Sagebee in the red part of my list and for now i think that logically Sage leans town and for Red i have an idea that she can be town or survivor. The survivor wins with town from what i know, so she can be an ally.
Town and null reads everyone else.
i don't know where to place Odd, i can't read him. Logically leans town.
Depending on 6th flip i have to rethink maybe everything. :-/
Town and null reads everyone else.
i don't know where to place Odd, i can't read him. Logically leans town.
Depending on 6th flip i have to rethink maybe everything. :-/
ScarletCelestial
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Well, Lonely-slot. I counted myself in non-voters on my highlight thing too, mainly because there was someone before me so it would be a Scarlet-slot, if that makes sense. So you may have not been in the game, but your slot wasn't voting.
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...Uh it was Odd who voted Ryu and Odd was the first person on the wagon according to the final VC.
I'll give you that.
The wagon question was about if he flips scum, so would concern whether the people on the back of the wagon would be possible scum. On the note of what you said, I vehemently disagree with what you say. As someone with more experience, most lynches on Town are actually lead by wrong Town. I think I've only seen one case to the contrary, and that was a case of powerwolfing. May I ask why you believe the leader of Town lynch wagons should be held accountable, even if behaviour or other factors may suggest otherwise?
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Well this is quite a long dusk phase.
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This isn't really true. One person alone cannot get someone lynched, after all (unless we were using the Monarchy lynch system, of course, but I digress). In fact, I feel like this is an overt attempt to discredit ones who joined the lynch on the basis that they were not the proginator of said lynch. While it would not be uncommon to see scum vote for themselves (as in, their teammates) when there is a wagon well established, I would typically expect them to be wary of flagrantly bandwagoning on at the end, too. Indeed, one could argue it's the middle of the wagon where scum are most likely found, but personally I'm not a fan of appealing to probability. In any case, I think credit for the lynch should be awarded based on the reasoning provided, and of course what led to that, as opposed to merely where one happened to be placed on the wagon.
I don't know how Odd can be "for sure" town yet have that status revoked if this lynch flips anything but scum. That would imply Odd is not, in fact, "for sure" Town, as of right now. More to the point, if Odd could be independent if 6th flips Town, why does this possibility not exist if 6th flips scum too? Independent, by definition, means he is not aligned with either scum or town. I don't understand the logic behind your thought process here.
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I've done what I've done with wagons a lot - it is usually the middle to end if they're Town and usually end if the flip is scum, if any at all.
While not inherently wrong, I feel like this too is overly absolutionist. At the end of the day, this is only supported by anecdotal evidence. For instance, one wold expect confident scum to be able to lead the town, and I don't feel like that is particularly uncommon. While Town do certainly shoot themselves in the foot, I can't get on board with the notion that it is more plausible than scum doing it. I would personally but it as about even, in the sense that I don't believe a strong read can be formed on whether one started the wagon or not alone.
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I belive the leader of town lynches should be held acountable cause, logically speaking they are the ones that fueled the fire for the lynch. They are the ones who gave the others a reason to lynch, though this reasoning may be flawed, it still begs the question: shouldnt the person who advocated for the town lynch the most be held at question? Despite thier past behaviour they should still be put to question, not necccarly givem the tittle mafia.
The possibility of him being independent is greatly increased if the person he flips is town. Becauee it'll give us a reason to suspect him being an indepnednt becaue he lynched a person that was town despite having past lynches that were mafia. I'm not sayong there was no possiblity of him being indepndent before, or there is none if 6th flips mafia, im just saying that the possiblity is higher than before if 6th flips town.
So the lynch is only worth the flip? What about the logic behind the lynch? I beleve that ought to count at least as much as whether one was right or wrong. Town do play scummy, sometimes.
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