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this thread is only for proper thinking people. If you are ILLOGICAL and UNREASONABLE, this is not for you. This requires you to think and if you cannot do that, leave and say nothing. You can go wank your own fantasies elsewhere.
The topics will contain works from other offical materials such as the Last Movie and Boruto The Movie. People who use "tHat'S NOt rEaL. Only manga/databook" to discredit official works of Kishi and by extension Kodachi (including Boruto series) would fall under the premise of being ILLOGICAL and UNREASONABLE.
However, if you have your own theory and evidences to back them or wish to compare other people's theories or just simply want to know what other people think, then you are welcome here.
Just be warned that your attitude will be reflected back to you.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: USE BRAIN PLZ
The topics will contain works from other offical materials such as the Last Movie and Boruto The Movie. People who use "tHat'S NOt rEaL. Only manga/databook" to discredit official works of Kishi and by extension Kodachi (including Boruto series) would fall under the premise of being ILLOGICAL and UNREASONABLE.
However, if you have your own theory and evidences to back them or wish to compare other people's theories or just simply want to know what other people think, then you are welcome here.
Just be warned that your attitude will be reflected back to you.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: USE BRAIN PLZ
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The premise of the Otsutsuki Clan seem to revolve around the vampire lore. These creatures are known to suck the life out of living things and The Otsutsuki Clan does just that. They are pale and white and have mystical powers. They maximize their harvest and keep their immortality by planting chakra seeds. These will grow by taking in the planet's life source through Senjutsu, a technique that takes in natural energy. Once the tree has stored all of the planet's life force, it can be harvested. This was demonstrated by Juubi Madara.
These give them immortality and power. Power of which can be used in conjunction with their own natural talents. They are capable of creating and destroying. (you know, 6 Paths). This makes them the original Sages of 6 Paths. Since they are mystical creatures, it fits the bill of being Sages.
These creatures travel in pairs, one belonging to Yin and one belonging to Yang. The affinities are heavily based on imagination and reality, respectively. The intangible and the tangible.
Mind and Body. Brain and Heart. Spiritual vs Physical.
They can transcend into an awakened being by gaining the other affinity. It can be through eating a planet's life force or by eating their partner. Based on Ikemoto's design and as well as going back to Kishi's senjutsu designs, we can put together certain things.
One is Yin consists of Sage Mode (tattoos) and Rinnegan (dark doujutsus) like mangekyu and sharingan.
The other is Yang consisting of Chakra Mode (glowing chakra things) and Tenseigan (light doujutsus) like jougan and byakugan.
In Summary:
These give them immortality and power. Power of which can be used in conjunction with their own natural talents. They are capable of creating and destroying. (you know, 6 Paths). This makes them the original Sages of 6 Paths. Since they are mystical creatures, it fits the bill of being Sages.
These creatures travel in pairs, one belonging to Yin and one belonging to Yang. The affinities are heavily based on imagination and reality, respectively. The intangible and the tangible.
Mind and Body. Brain and Heart. Spiritual vs Physical.
They can transcend into an awakened being by gaining the other affinity. It can be through eating a planet's life force or by eating their partner. Based on Ikemoto's design and as well as going back to Kishi's senjutsu designs, we can put together certain things.
One is Yin consists of Sage Mode (tattoos) and Rinnegan (dark doujutsus) like mangekyu and sharingan.
The other is Yang consisting of Chakra Mode (glowing chakra things) and Tenseigan (light doujutsus) like jougan and byakugan.
In Summary:
Yin ----- Yang
Moon ------ Sun
Dark ------ Light
Mind ----- Body
Brain ----- Heart
Imagination ----- Reality
Spiritual -------Physical
Intangible ------ Tangible
Rinnegan ------- Tenseigan
Sage Mode ----- Chakra Mode
Moon ------ Sun
Dark ------ Light
Mind ----- Body
Brain ----- Heart
Imagination ----- Reality
Spiritual -------Physical
Intangible ------ Tangible
Rinnegan ------- Tenseigan
Sage Mode ----- Chakra Mode
Kaguya: YIN-YANG
originally Yang
(SPECULATION: ate Isshiki, Yin)
Hagoromo (Yin) ---------------- TWINS -------------------- Hamura (Yang)
sun (Yang within Yin) -------------------------------------- moon (Yin within Yang)
Kaguya's chakra (Yin) = Juubi ------------------------------- Kaguya's vessel (Yang) = Gedo Mazou
Uchiha (yin-yin) - COUSINS - Senju (yin-yang) -- DISTANT COUSINS -- Hyuga (yang-yin) - COUSINS - Uzumaki (yang-yang)
(Some many generation fights later)
Madara ------------- Hashirama +++++++++++++ DISTANT RELATIVES ++++++++++ Hanabi ----------------- Toneri
Stole cells ==================================================================== Stole eyes
Rinnegan Yin RSM ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tesneigan Yang RSM
originally Yang
(SPECULATION: ate Isshiki, Yin)
Hagoromo (Yin) ---------------- TWINS -------------------- Hamura (Yang)
sun (Yang within Yin) -------------------------------------- moon (Yin within Yang)
Kaguya's chakra (Yin) = Juubi ------------------------------- Kaguya's vessel (Yang) = Gedo Mazou
Uchiha (yin-yin) - COUSINS - Senju (yin-yang) -- DISTANT COUSINS -- Hyuga (yang-yin) - COUSINS - Uzumaki (yang-yang)
(Some many generation fights later)
Madara ------------- Hashirama +++++++++++++ DISTANT RELATIVES ++++++++++ Hanabi ----------------- Toneri
Stole cells ==================================================================== Stole eyes
Rinnegan Yin RSM ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tesneigan Yang RSM
There are strong evidence that it is the case. For one, Toneri exhibited all of the same abilties as Naruto. The same as Naruto exhibiting Otsutsuki Yang abilities.
Kinshiki was able to use chakra armaments.
Uzumakis had the special chakra chains (I guess you can call that a part of the chakra armaments)
Naruto using Chakra Cloak
Toneri using Chakra Cloak/part
Mitsuki being able to use Chakra Mode (therefore, it is NOT Kurama's ability)
The curse of hatred also happened to Hamura's side of the family as well. Instead of the events of Naruto, it was reversed. We see that the Yang side is the one that captured the eyes (Toneri taking Hanabi's eyes) compared to the main story (Madara taking a chunk of Hashirama's body).
Kinshiki was able to use chakra armaments.
Uzumakis had the special chakra chains (I guess you can call that a part of the chakra armaments)
Naruto using Chakra Cloak
Toneri using Chakra Cloak/part
Mitsuki being able to use Chakra Mode (therefore, it is NOT Kurama's ability)
The curse of hatred also happened to Hamura's side of the family as well. Instead of the events of Naruto, it was reversed. We see that the Yang side is the one that captured the eyes (Toneri taking Hanabi's eyes) compared to the main story (Madara taking a chunk of Hashirama's body).
Look in the graph
Yeah, makes sense since incest is deplorable, you brainless degenerate.
Or are you going to claim that the Namikaze Clan is also an Uzumaki cousin and anyone in the Uzumaki clan is a Namikaze?
Or are you going to claim that the Namikaze Clan is also an Uzumaki cousin and anyone in the Uzumaki clan is a Namikaze?
Where's your scans and databook? Yours are probably barebones and unfounded compared to this.
THEORY:
The curse of hatred was moved on to the next stage during Madara's era. He ended it on Hagoromo's side when he combined both Indra's and Asura's power and attaining Hagoromo's power on the verge of dying. He gives Nagato his eyes and putting his Karma on the White Zetsu just before dying (we now know that BZ is Kaguya's Karma). Senju bloodline also was gone (only known youngest one remaining is Nagato)
curse of hatred didn't end on Hamura's side until Toneri awakened Tenseigan (well, he didn't fully complete his so IDK if that does anything).
Reason why I think that Toneri isn't at full power and the Tenseigan isn't complete is because of:
curse of hatred didn't end on Hamura's side until Toneri awakened Tenseigan (well, he didn't fully complete his so IDK if that does anything).
Reason why I think that Toneri isn't at full power and the Tenseigan isn't complete is because of:
- Short incubation time
- Swirling blue design
- Hanabi doesn't have the Tenseigan (reverted back to her original Byakugan)
- Full Chakra Cloak (Naruto's RSM only cloaked his garments and not his skin)
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As you already have guessed: Naruto and Sasuke were severely nerfed many times but not so much as the new generation. That is simply due to being cowardly writing.
They never lost any of their powers. In fact, they only had gotten stronger. For one, they are no longer teenagers. They are now fully matured and in their prime. Another is that they are more used to their power than ever before.
Which is another reason why Naruto was able to solo Toneri with his incomplete Tenseigan RSM (see above if you'd forgotten what I'm talking about) without even going RSM.
For the most part, most of the times that we see their powers are from out of the gate (using them ASAP as they have been acquired). Meaning that they lacked the experience and training to fully utilize their powers to the most efficient way possible.
They never lost any of their powers. In fact, they only had gotten stronger. For one, they are no longer teenagers. They are now fully matured and in their prime. Another is that they are more used to their power than ever before.
Which is another reason why Naruto was able to solo Toneri with his incomplete Tenseigan RSM (see above if you'd forgotten what I'm talking about) without even going RSM.
For the most part, most of the times that we see their powers are from out of the gate (using them ASAP as they have been acquired). Meaning that they lacked the experience and training to fully utilize their powers to the most efficient way possible.
Yes, they both have Paths as it is obvious with Hagoromo giving them his powers as well as his and Hamura's sun and moon seal (Not sure exactly what they do except for separating Kaguya's transcendent form into chakra and vessel. So they are on the same shit-tier level of usefulness like Rinnesharingan).
Now it is still hard to say whether both of them have ALL 6 Paths or whether or not it is shared between the two of them.
Reason being is that we are shown by both characters different Paths.
Sasuke:
Now it is still hard to say whether both of them have ALL 6 Paths or whether or not it is shared between the two of them.
Reason being is that we are shown by both characters different Paths.
Sasuke:
- Deva - sealed the Tailed Beasts
- Petra - took chakra from the Tailed Beasts
- Asura - combined 3 Kuramas into 1 and used 2 completely different Rasenshuriken affinities
- Outer/Naraka - restored Kakashi's long lost eye and saved a disintegrating Gai from absolute death
HEAD CANON:
Well, because of shit progression writing, anyone that is in the background are forgotten and never move/scale along with the story. Hyugas one of these offenders.
Jougan is what I would like to say comparable to the Uchiha's Mangekyu. We still do not know what else it can do and whether or not it will be as flashy/unique as the Mangekyu.
We also know that they can do Susanoo level palms as Neji and the rest of the clan exhibited during the Alliance War.
As for the Senjus, they're dead. The only last known Senju alive is Tsunade.
Go ask Jesus Naruto to revive them. The fact that the "Spirit of Asura" has moved to Naruto, an Uzumaki, means that there isn't any NEW Senjus left.
I mean I'm sure Orochimaru can take Tsunade and clone her. There's also Hashirama cells left to restart the Senju Clan.
Tsunade keeps herself in prime so she can probably still make babies if she wants to.
It is like the revival of the Uchiha Clan through Sasuke's family and Shinn clones.
Jougan is what I would like to say comparable to the Uchiha's Mangekyu. We still do not know what else it can do and whether or not it will be as flashy/unique as the Mangekyu.
We also know that they can do Susanoo level palms as Neji and the rest of the clan exhibited during the Alliance War.
As for the Senjus, they're dead. The only last known Senju alive is Tsunade.
Go ask Jesus Naruto to revive them. The fact that the "Spirit of Asura" has moved to Naruto, an Uzumaki, means that there isn't any NEW Senjus left.
I mean I'm sure Orochimaru can take Tsunade and clone her. There's also Hashirama cells left to restart the Senju Clan.
Tsunade keeps herself in prime so she can probably still make babies if she wants to.
It is like the revival of the Uchiha Clan through Sasuke's family and Shinn clones.
If Kodachi is brave enough, I would love to see that happening.
Since Boruto has only one eye Jougan, it is possible for him to gain/implant Mangekyu.
I mean Sarada is there. Sasuke is there. Most importantly, Shinns are there. There are plenty of Mangekyu to go around with those lot.
Since Boruto has only one eye Jougan, it is possible for him to gain/implant Mangekyu.
I mean Sarada is there. Sasuke is there. Most importantly, Shinns are there. There are plenty of Mangekyu to go around with those lot.
ETC:
What do you think? Are there any that I missed or any thing that can be improved?
What are your thoughts and theories and head canon?
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