Feminists want UN to censor Internet

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A bit late, but comedy gold is comedy gold
In a report released yesterday, entitled “Cyber Violence Against Women And Girls: A Global Wake-up Call,” UN Women, the group behind last year’s risible “He for She” campaign, called on governments to use their “licensing prerogative” to ensure that “telecoms and search engines” are only “allowed to connect with the public” if they “supervise content and its dissemination.”

In other words, if search engines and ISPs don’t comply with a list of the UN’s censorship demands, the UN wants national governments to cut off their access to the public.

So, what sort of content does the UN want to censor? ISIS recruitment videos, perhaps, which lure women into lives of rape and servitude? Live-streamed executions from Syria? Revenge porn or snuff videos? There’s no shortage of dangerous and potentially traumatising content on the web, after all, much of it disproportionately affecting women.

Alas not. The UN is hung up on “cyber violence against women,” a Kafkaesque term that is apparently shorthand for “women being criticised on the internet.” At least, that’s how at least two attendees at the launch of the UN report, published by the United Nations Broadband Commission, explained it yesterday...

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To add to this greatness, from that article is a link to UN Women's article, where this can be found

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"A survivor of cyber violence"
What dumb, selfish people.

 

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I don't understand this... I mean I get that half of us don't want to sleep with everyguy out there that claims he's got the goods and surely doesn't, but the other half are trolls pretending to be teenage girls. What do you get by bashing women on the net anyway
 

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The thing is everyone gets cyber bullied not just women, lmao she's such a hypocrite she's so selfish it's actually funny.

Shame on the UN for inviting someone like her. :lol
bitch needs a punch in the face to wake up.
 

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Wow...I get the issues. But the measures is monumentally brimed with idiocy. Censoring all access to the Internet? :lol
 

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I don't understand this... I mean I get that half of us don't want to sleep with everyguy out there that claims he's got the goods and surely doesn't, but the other half are trolls pretending to be teenage girls. What do you get by bashing women on the net anyway

I don't follow you.. In its purest form this is a noble goal. To stop bullying.
However it's weighed down by so much hypocrisy and stupidity that it's corrupt pretty much from the get-go. It's just a bunch of special snowflakes who don't know how to ignore something they have the total power to ignore. And so they're trying to infringe upon the rights of everyone else. It's so selfish and so dumb.
They could turn off their computer but instead they go to the ****ing United Nations and ask for some fascist Big Brother controlled language type shit..
 

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I am really disappointed on how stupid they made themselves. They clearly don't even know the basics on how the whole system works.
 

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This is about as dumb as me going to UN complaining that the rent is too damn high
 

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And UN is actually listening to this? Everyone seems short of an agenda... UN employees are overpaid. To think they peruse such a pointless project...smh Though cyber bullying can be real problem.



But Internet cannot provide the safety. It cannot stop hacking or cyber stalking or threatening messages. Local government needs laws to take care of cyber crimes and people need more awareness to not post personal stuff online unnecessarily and take proper precautions.

Edit: I found the context explained better: ( the emotional outburst in OP was confusing)

September 28, 2015 at 2:52 pm

Here's how the report at page 6 defines cyber violence against women and girls, or Cyber-VAWG: [words]"

When you're talking about the report's overall concept of "cyberviolence," though, I think it is more fair to look at the report's explanation of why it uses that term (on page 21):

The United Nations defines violence against women as: 'Any act of gender-based violence that results in, or is likely to result in, physical, sexual or psychological harm or suffering to women, including threats of such acts, coercion or arbitrary deprivation of liberty, whether occurring in public or in private life.' It includes forced intimate partner violence and sexual assault, marriage, dowry-related violence, marital rape, sexual harassment, intimidation at work and in educational institutions, forced pregnancy, forced abortion, forced sterilization, trafficking and forced prostitution and gender-related killings.

The term ‘cyber’ is used to capture the different ways that the Internet exacerbates, magnifies or broadcasts the abuse."

From that perspective, the term "cyberviolence" makes some sense. Violence is rarely an end in itself – it's usually a means to something else (in the context of violence against women, often a means to control and humiliate). The effect of violence is amplified when it is combined with communicative acts. ISIS is able to spread terror far more effectively by posting videos of executions on the internet. The Klan's terrorization of the South didn't depend just on physical attacks, but on visual symbols such as cross burning and marches. The speech amplifies and extends the effects of the violence beyond the immediate victims to a broader group. Likewise, communication is enhanced and made more effective by the violence – the violence draws attention to the speech that it wouldn't otherwise get. Dylann Roof's racist screeds were published internationally, most extensively on the internet, after he shot up the church in Charleston; only a small fringe group would have been exposed to his thoughts without the violence.

The report mentions an example specific to violence against women – the distribution of photographs taken during the gang rape of Rehtaeh Parsons. The harassment, including online harassment, exacerbated the effects of the physical violence and led to the victim's suicide.

I think it's fair for the report to use "cyberviolence" in that context, and one of the report's strengths is its call to look at how speech and violence are intersecting to exacerbate, magnify and broadcast abuse against women.

Unfortunately, the report's application of that idea is done very poorly, for the reasons you've noted in your post. Poor execution shouldn't be grounds for dismissing the underlying concept, though.



And this:



I agree with some of the points raised in that post.

Instead of reading emotional reactions to the UN, people need to study the report itself to find the actual problem with it. Reactionary posts and articles from the net have a knack for missing the point and underlying issue for whatever it's worth... no I haven't studied it myself yet. May check it out later on if I get time.
 
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Am I the only one who thinks Anita Sarkeesian is fine as hell?
 

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And UN is actually listening to this? Everyone seems short of an agenda... UN employees are overpaid. To think they peruse such a pointless project...smh Though cyber bullying can be real problem.



But Internet cannot provide the safety. It cannot stop hacking or cyber stalking or threatening messages. Local government needs laws to take care of cyber crimes and people need more awareness to not post personal stuff online unnecessarily and take proper precautions.

Edit: I found the context explained better: ( the emotional outburst in OP was confusing)




And this:



I agree with some of the points raised in that post.

Instead of reading emotional reactions to the UN, people need to study the report itself to find the actual problem with it. Reactionary posts and articles from the net have a knack for missing the point and underlying issue for whatever it's worth... no I haven't studied it myself yet. May check it out later on if I get time.

Well yeah this is more level headed view, if a bit hyperbolic.

But do know that UN and many of the Western World Authorities uses vague terms to describe harassment/abuse (For example: ..... unfriending in face book is cited as a instance of workplace bullying in Australia. Not to mention you will remember the case where a Indian student was rejected from a German Uni just because the authorities were aware of the 'India's Daughter' Docu ... So you can guess the way their mental gymnastics work to justify actions).

Cyberviolence is a serious issue ... but the approach to this isnt the correct thing, as it is not a gender issue and treating it as it is wont get rid of it.

Our very own example is Uchiha Macho Threads ... we really dont know who the hell he/she is but we all know the flame wars from his threads can be considered a serious case of cyber violence. So what are we gonna do about it?

PS Either way, this isnt really worry some actually, as this report and all was done by UN Women which is in reality a relatively new branch that really doesnt fit in well ... but like all the UN branches has to keep up a image of semi potency to justify the resources channeled to them.

PPS What more worrisome or ironic is that one of UN Human Rights Ambassadors is Saudi Arabia ... More:

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What the hell do they have against Pickachu?
 
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You are going to laugh and call that stupid but then they are the people there in the ****ing UN, they will influence governments and politicians. I can totally see governments using this as an excuse to censor Internet in the name of protecting women.
 

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Well yeah this is more level headed view, if a bit hyperbolic.

But do know that UN and many of the Western World Authorities uses vague terms to describe harassment/abuse (For example: ..... unfriending in face book is cited as a instance of workplace bullying in Australia. Not to mention you will remember the case where a Indian student was rejected from a German Uni just because the authorities were aware of the 'India's Daughter' Docu ... So you can guess the way their mental gymnastics work to justify actions).

I remember- that was actually a good example of racism. And I find it funny that BBC chose to pick and air such a documentary at the time when they have the biggest case of systematic sexual crimes un-earthed in their own country. And then got a Lord molesting underage boys in Parliament as a cherry on top.

Cyberviolence is a serious issue ... but the approach to this isnt the correct thing, as it is not a gender issue and treating it as it is wont get rid of it.

It's not- It's probably because that the people who sent this report work with women related issues only and didn't make keep it wider because of that.

Even the article says that report was poorly written even though it had some valid points. They didn't seem to think the whole issue through. Time constraint or simply poor drafting as it seems from the articles on it. Dunno. Reactionary articles are not helping in better understanding either.

Our very own example is Uchiha Macho Threads ... we really dont know who the hell he/she is but we all know the flame wars from his threads can be considered a serious case of cyber violence. So what are we gonna do about it?

.. In his case he was the one instigating it- he actually advised one other member to create similar fanboy thread so that people who like other characters flame and get infracted. That was before he left for a time. :|

I have seen some cases where an adult user was trying to get some minors ( at least going by the age in their accounts) to get in to cyber *** and BDSM slavery or other similar bits. Not taking a 'no ' for an answer but trying to convince her that she really wanted it and would like it. In some cases people tried to stalk and find out real life info about other members just to use against them- almost all the staff is stalked- personal snap shots found at other sites posted without permission. In fact at times people get paid to leak info about other users- in form of premium memberships- Some times people complained harassment at FB or chat groups even - not that we can do much about it other than telling them to be more cautious before giving out personal info.

One of the 13 year old got over friendly with one such user only to find their personal video chat at some chat service posted at you tube and linked at NB by that member...I had to come online to remove such links when I needed to pay attention to work only.

And I still consider NB one of the safe places-we help as much as we can and try to keep it as family friendly as possible. Hit the report button if someone is harassing you are sending you uncomfortable predatory messages. But one can guess how it would go in places where there is higher traffic.

People need to be better informed. And in most countries Cyber laws need to be defined and handled properly. It's relatively new branch and evolving. Many cyber criminals get away simply because there is no proper law and procedure in place to charge them properly.

PS Either way, this isnt really worry some actually, as this report and all was done by UN Women which is in reality a relatively new branch that really doesnt fit in well ... but like all the UN branches has to keep up a image of semi potency to justify the resources channeled to them.

Yeah the report does seem to be half baked and put out there because they needed to come up with something.

PPS What more worrisome or ironic is that one of UN Human Rights Ambassadors is Saudi Arabia ... More:

I saw that earlier but not really going to get in to it...

PPPS Also found this:

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What the hell do they have against Pickachu?

Depends- I haven't seen the game so I don't know what does it involve but why give it to a 2 year old? Kids that young really need videos where everyone is polite and nice and friendly. I'm serious.. I have let my kid watch DB after he broke the tale of his toy dino ( a very good piece of robotic toy very sturdy and good model) at exactly same place where Gohan cut it in on the TV---- it took him days but he managed finally... and then he started punching and lashing out in quick sequences and would glare making weird sound- I knew I was wrong in letting him run DB. I removed the Chanel. And made him watch nice shows like Dragon tales- and he slowly became well behaved- learned to say sorry, thank you and please...

I never let him watch shinchan for the similar reason. I don't know why Japanese parents love Doraemon. Only thing my kid and nephew seemed to want is a robot to do their homework- and started throwing tantrums whenever asked to do- so no more Nobita around my home. He used to voluntarily sit to do his HW before that and eagerly so. So much for the kids anime.

I have told my son if I would cancel the cable TV subscription if I found him watching it again. At least he is studying again. Kids really need supervision with what they watch and the games they play.
 
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Lol, I love that episode of South Park, a lot of you SJWs should watch it and learn a lesson.
 

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Figured I'd leave this video here because it is relevant to the subject at hand.

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