[Predictions] Fairy Tail Manga 314 Discussion and 315 Predictions

[Scorps]

Well I have been thinking about that the past few weeks as I got up again with the anime (I just watch the anime once in a while, then let the episodes again pile up for a few months, then watch all those new episodes and repeat the same cycle) and the more I think about it, the less this entire situation makes sense.

Let's recap: As I have understood it the Grand Magic Games have been held for 7 years, meaning it was already held in the year Tenrou Team was locked in the Fairy Sphere. For the normal people it was just entertainment and to decide who is the number 1 guild, however the original purpose from the start was the Eclipse Project and the driving forces behind that were Arkadios and the Princess and the reason as why they did that was because Future Lucy notified them about the future.

If that's true it means Future Lucy has been around for 7 years, meaning she was already there in the same year the Current Lucy got trapped in Fairy Sphere and that everything related to Zeref and the Eclipse Project finds its origin in Future Lucy. However Future Lucy came from the future to avoid some kind of catastrophe. If all of that is correct, it means we absolutely know nothing about what this catastrophe now exactly is as everything related to the Eclipse Project and the Grand Magic Games was to prevent this catastrophe. So hypothetically speaking if Future Lucy didn't come to the past, there wouldn't be something like Grand Magic Games and an Eclipse Project. So what is this catastrophe then? Unless of course Hiro uses the theory of that the past nor future can be changed and that time travel is part of the timeline itself and thus can't change the original flow of time as traveling to the past was from the very beginning a part of it and by Lucy doing so she might have caused this catastrophe by attempting to avoid it.

The biggest problem is that Hiro isn't really clear on the details on how much Future Lucy now had an influence on the Eclipse Project and when she now exactly came to the past? I mean if she came 7 years ago, what did she do then all this time? Was the Eclipse Project then really the only way to stop this incoming catastrophe?

No matter how you look at it, as Jellal said there are things here that don't make much sense.

True. In theory, not long after the Tenryou island incident, the 1st grand games ahppened. The games are only a way to get the magic needed to open the eclipse gate and travel backwards through time but...

a) lucy witsnesses that something horrible happens in the future and thus, in the future, uses the 12 zodiac keys to return to the past using some unknown means (she can't use eclipse because eclipse wasn't made in her original time-line) to come and warn the princsess that she needs to avoid the catastrophe by building the eclipse gate for some unknown reason (it mustn't be to time travel...Lucy from the future got here from a future with no eclipse gate so its not needed to travel) and arrives 7 years earlier than the team is set free. She then gets the princess to work on all this and etc etc.

b) the eclipse gate is something that only exists in one time line and lucy consumed the one in her to come back thus needing a new one to time travel again. weird... but plausible. A time travelling or manipulating device should be beyond the grasp of time, existing only once in the whole series of timelines thus the need to make one after you travel with it. This way, Lucy from the future must wnat to warp the team of the past for the future to prevent the catapshro from killing them, thus bringing them safely to the future, post catatrophe.

c) the eclipse gate has nothing to do with time travel and its all a rouse. Lucy wants to open it to flood the world with some celestial ubber power to use it to prevent the catastrophe from ha++ening.

d) hiro is still drunk from egnog >_>


ITs a bit of a mess when we deal with time travel. Personally, for me, the Eclipse Gate has nothing to do with Time Travel. Lucy from the future in theory didn't have it and she still travelled back. Not only that but the Princess wants to use it if Lucy proves to be wrong, meaning that Lucy's time travel had nothing to do with it. It most likely will simply serve as a gate way to the celestial world or something like that. But this brings me to another question: how did Lucy travel backwards in time?

The thing she wants to avoid: the dragons returning and laying ash to the world. We saw Igneel and Grandine talking about being time or almost time. Its probable that Acnologia, the dragon slayer turned dragon, will lay waste to the world. In an attempt to stop him, the dragons return to fight him. The catastrophe may be the appearance of acnologia in the town, killing all the mages and FT members in the process.

Oh and Zeref? He's 99% bound to be Acnologias Dragon Slayer. So his role is either to kill it or aid it in this catastrophe.


PS-Sorry for the spelling. iPad.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

She didn't get 2nd orgin. She was looking after all that who was going through the proccess

 

[minatoisagod]

Damn i'm liking kagura more and more it was kinda predictable that she was related to simon and see it was. Still glad erza is losing i hate the bs power up they got and this showed how far hate and anger can drive people and make them stronger not just friendship. I hope kagura didn't injury herself i hope its someone that took the hit for erza. Knowing minerva she may just have put milliena between them.

 

[Summer]

Well now that seemed to go just as I thought it would but I still would rather see Jura v.s kagura.

Here is my twist on the chapter the blood at the end was not erza and it was nt from kagura either. You could say it might be jellal but I am pretty sure that the blood was from Millianawhy because of Minerva's stupid transporting magic. Which went all according to Minerva or should I say stings plan. This is just the way hiro writes things.

 

[Hiro94]

She didn't get 2nd orgin. She was looking after all that who was going through the proccess

Im pretty sure she did get 2nd origin...it was in the manga and anime...ultear even asked erza why the 2nd origin process didnt hurt her like the others did~ how do you suppose erza defeated all those 100 monsters if her magic power was the same as 7 years ago...she wouldnt stand a chance in the tournament it would make her one of the weakest mage in fairy tail guild.

 

[AWSUM SID]

I have my sincere doubts about both things. For starters currently I think neither Erza, Kagura or Jellal are still having 'winning the Grand Magic Games' as their main priority. If that was the case Erza wouldn't just sit there on the ground taking the hit. That Minerva would have warped Milliana is very doubtful too as why would she sacrifice Milliana, potentially saving Erza and causing both Kagura and Erza attacking her again out of fury while if she simply doesn't do anything, Erza would probably be beaten and then only Kagura is left in probably a very unstable mental state.

If it was Milliana who was thrown between them, I don't think she was thrown by anyone, but escaped somehow and tried to save Erza.

well... we are just speculating at this point. But think about it. Minevera is seriously twisted. She could just throw millianna in front of the blade just to make kagura more mentally unstable. At that point i guess erza will stand up and take revenge. Because, as you have said, most fights have involved emotion. If erza is to win then her anger has to overcome her guilt. kagura is already unstable and that would just destroy her. Erza can take over from then and stop minevera.

I doubt FT will lose this tournament. Afterall, they have been taking a lot of strong criticism and the remaining members had to overlook who knows how much of humiliation. FT went into the contest to win and i guess it was apparent that they would win. Because the FT guild needs a comeback and there is no better stage.

 

[Machiko]

Awesome chapter. Mashima couldn't have done it any better. I was hoping so badly for Kagura's victory over Erza, and it actually happened! No plot armor, no nakama power, no power of feelings! Erza got her ass kicked. Yeah! Simon being Kagura's older brother didn't come as a surprise. Now I wonder if next chapter will be focused on Simon and the remembrance of his death. I bet we won't get to find out whose blood it was until after 2 chapters. Though I really doubt it's Erza's blood, more likely either Millana's or Kagura herselves.

 

[Netsui]

I forget her name, but I think the member from Mermaid Heel's that can use some type of gravity magic could have stepped in between Kagura and Erza. I only think this because she was yelling to Kagura not to release the sword. We know that Charle had a vision of the future, and Lucy was singing. Singing in the middle of all that destruction, though of course Future Lucy really didn't go into details. Is there a possibility that Lucy lost control of herself, and ended up destroying the country? I only think this because it seems weird that a lot of people died (from what we've heard by Future Levy), yet she survived. Maybe that could be what Jellal thinks is wrong.

I know what I said probably isn't right, but I thought it was just worth mentioning. Loved the chapter, but I wanted a more interesting fight between Erza and Kagura.

 

[Scorps]

Well, main questions at the end of the day are:

a) how did lucy time travel?

b) what is this great power that will destroy a country in one day?

c) what did future lucy do for 7 years to help stop it?

d) what role will FT have in all this?


I maintain that Lucy came back to the past to bring the current FT to the future, where they are already dead, so that they can fight in a war of sorts against this power that consumed the country. This power is most likely related to Acnologia and the dragons. When Acnologia destroyed Tenryou, Zeref's expression seemed to fit with the later off scene dialogues between Igneel and Grandine. The dragons are near the point of return. A catastrophe is near. If we put both together, its likely that they are related. A question is, Acnologia has been in the world since the dragons war ages ago. Yet, little to nothing did he do apart from ripping gildarts apart and destroying tenryou during all that time. I mean...why? If he hates humanity and dispises it shouldn't he spent all this time trying to destroy it or at least playing with it? It seems weird. Zeref is supposedly behind acnologias transformation into a real dragon but i feel there is more to all this and it will soon be revealed the real reason why the dragons left and acnologia didn't do squat over all these years. And this whole big event of destruction coming up has something to do with it.

 

[Jellal Fernandes]

Nah I think jellal jumped in at last minute

I didn't..Hiro just wanted to draw me..You know me being a boss and all...

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[AWSUM SID]

Well, main questions at the end of the day are:

a) how did lucy time travel?

b) what is this great power that will destroy a country in one day?

c) what did future lucy do for 7 years to help stop it?

d) what role will FT have in all this?


I maintain that Lucy came back to the past to bring the current FT to the future, where they are already dead, so that they can fight in a war of sorts against this power that consumed the country. This power is most likely related to Acnologia and the dragons. When Acnologia destroyed Tenryou, Zeref's expression seemed to fit with the later off scene dialogues between Igneel and Grandine. The dragons are near the point of return. A catastrophe is near. If we put both together, its likely that they are related. A question is, Acnologia has been in the world since the dragons war ages ago. Yet, little to nothing did he do apart from ripping gildarts apart and destroying tenryou during all that time. I mean...why? If he hates humanity and dispises it shouldn't he spent all this time trying to destroy it or at least playing with it? It seems weird. Zeref is supposedly behind acnologias transformation into a real dragon but i feel there is more to all this and it will soon be revealed the real reason why the dragons left and acnologia didn't do squat over all these years. And this whole big event of destruction coming up has something to do with it.

for a town that big to be destroyed... the only thing we can come up at this point is the possibility that achnologia would destroy it.

 

[Kiiszame]

Theres a reason Kagura never uses her blade. She said she was saving it for Jella. Why would that be?
Perhaps there is a price to pay for using that blade. Even her teammates were telling her not to use it.
I bet the the blade somehow cut her or needed her blood to function.

Im almost 100 percent sure that she ddnt cut Erza and I doubt Jella intervened.

 

[Dean-Winchester]

one thing that has bothered me is both future lucy and during the s rank exam arc Zeref ahve both cried and jellal claims that future lucys power level is the same as Zeref i am just skeptical over all by a bunch of things

 

[Better]

good chapter o_<

 

[Rayder]

I have a pretty good theory on what I think will happen. Minerva left the fight so she could fight only one of them while they were tired and injured. Kagura is going to win and since Kagura wasn't injured that much and hasn't even unleashed her sword that Minerva would have better odds against Erza than Kagura. So in the last second she appeared behind Kagura and stabbed her so it was Kagura's blood on the last panel.

Think about it Minerva wants to fight the person who she has more of a chance winning against and from what she has seen thats easily Kagura.

 

[Caliburn]

one thing that has bothered me is both future lucy and during the s rank exam arc Zeref ahve both cried and jellal claims that future lucys power level is the same as Zeref i am just skeptical over all by a bunch of things

When did he ever say that Future Lucy's power level is the same as Zeref's? He noted a few times that she feels the same as Zeref's magic, though still slightly different. I can't recall him ever saying that her power is as strong as Zeref.

 

[Scorps]

What if future lucy is Zeref in disguise? His obcession with Natsu could be behind his rouse. And he might simply be using the whole eclipse thing not to safe the country but to destroy it. Perhaps its all just a rouse on his part to fool everyone into activating eclipse. This would explain why Jellal felt something reminiscient of Zeref in future lucy.

One thing that might also be considered is that future lucy may have used a magic similar to Zeref's or of the same nature to time travel. This would explain those "traces" similar to Zeref.

Lets not forget, Jellal never met Zeref. He was never on the same physical space as Zeref. He senses magic that is somewaht reminiscient of Zeref's magic, which he encountered in the tower but also in demons around the world. Zeref used a long forgotten, lost magic unique to him through which he created thousands of demons to destroy the world and would have reportedly used that same power to transition acnologia from dragon slayer to dragon.

If Zeref is future lucy, returning to the grand magic games year after year might be to search for natsu. In the hopes that he can see natsu which he believes to be the key to his own salvation. It would make sense. The crying upon seeing Natsu. The double nature of the situation in itself (Lucy comes back from the future to build a device that would allow her in the future to time travel back...yet she hasn't don anything to change this hellish future in 7 years...Its like a closed circle without a solution or much logic) would play into the double nature we have seen in Zeref. In one side he's a fragile sad depressive kid who cries as he hopes to be saved from all the evil he did. On the other side, he's a saddistic evil mage who once plnuged the world in darkness and even help give birth to the biggest enemy the human kind has ever faced. This dual, uncertain, illogical, inconsistent nature would fit with the current state of things.

 

[Jellal Fernandes]

What if future lucy is Zeref in disguise? His obcession with Natsu could be behind his rouse. And he might simply be using the whole eclipse thing not to safe the country but to destroy it. Perhaps its all just a rouse on his part to fool everyone into activating eclipse. This would explain why Jellal felt something reminiscient of Zeref in future lucy.

One thing that might also be considered is that future lucy may have used a magic similar to Zeref's or of the same nature to time travel. This would explain those "traces" similar to Zeref.

Lets not forget, Jellal never met Zeref. He was never on the same physical space as Zeref. He senses magic that is somewaht reminiscient of Zeref's magic, which he encountered in the tower but also in demons around the world. Zeref used a long forgotten, lost magic unique to him through which he created thousands of demons to destroy the world and would have reportedly used that same power to transition acnologia from dragon slayer to dragon.

If Zeref is future lucy, returning to the grand magic games year after year might be to search for natsu. In the hopes that he can see natsu which he believes to be the key to his own salvation. It would make sense. The crying upon seeing Natsu. The double nature of the situation in itself (Lucy comes back from the future to build a device that would allow her in the future to time travel back...yet she hasn't don anything to change this hellish future in 7 years...Its like a closed circle without a solution or much logic) would play into the double nature we have seen in Zeref. In one side he's a fragile sad depressive kid who cries as he hopes to be saved from all the evil he did. On the other side, he's a saddistic evil mage who once plnuged the world in darkness and even help give birth to the biggest enemy the human kind has ever faced. This dual, uncertain, illogical, inconsistent nature would fit with the current state of things.

Your post was quite the interesting one. That would be a good twist...What i am thinking is that Mavis is there for a reason as well. Im sure she has some type of connection or past with Zeref..So im really eager to see what happens when the day is coming to an end...Probably acnologia is coming again?

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[Scorps]

True. Mavis is....interesting. She is surely beyond the scope of a normal Mage, even by normal standards. She is alive yet dead. She can use magic yet she is not living.

I wonder if she died or simply...passed through somehow...dunno.

She is bound to have met Zeref in the past. And the secret of FT might be related to that i'm sure...

Zeref himself is quite interesting i mean...he was ubber evil now he's not? God this manga is interesting. ^^

 

[Kiiszame]

What if future lucy is Zeref in disguise? His obcession with Natsu could be behind his rouse. And he might simply be using the whole eclipse thing not to safe the country but to destroy it. Perhaps its all just a rouse on his part to fool everyone into activating eclipse. This would explain why Jellal felt something reminiscient of Zeref in future lucy.

One thing that might also be considered is that future lucy may have used a magic similar to Zeref's or of the same nature to time travel. This would explain those "traces" similar to Zeref.

Lets not forget, Jellal never met Zeref. He was never on the same physical space as Zeref. He senses magic that is somewaht reminiscient of Zeref's magic, which he encountered in the tower but also in demons around the world. Zeref used a long forgotten, lost magic unique to him through which he created thousands of demons to destroy the world and would have reportedly used that same power to transition acnologia from dragon slayer to dragon.

If Zeref is future lucy, returning to the grand magic games year after year might be to search for natsu. In the hopes that he can see natsu which he believes to be the key to his own salvation. It would make sense. The crying upon seeing Natsu. The double nature of the situation in itself (Lucy comes back from the future to build a device that would allow her in the future to time travel back...yet she hasn't don anything to change this hellish future in 7 years...Its like a closed circle without a solution or much logic) would play into the double nature we have seen in Zeref. In one side he's a fragile sad depressive kid who cries as he hopes to be saved from all the evil he did. On the other side, he's a saddistic evil mage who once plnuged the world in darkness and even help give birth to the biggest enemy the human kind has ever faced. This dual, uncertain, illogical, inconsistent nature would fit with the current state of things.

Thats a stretch but boy would that make things interesting.