[Discussion] Fair to assume that there will be a very even EOS

[giostep]

If you look at naruto there was only 2 people that could be the strongest, and roughly 2 people that could challenge them from previous generation. But OP has alot of possibly even characters by EOS
I think its been said enough that people should uunderstand that any top tier characters will extereme diff another, in no way will it be a high diff for either. Case in point that Akoiji a Ice Logia is basically equal to Akainu a Magma Logia, and the fight was extreme diff lasting 10 days or something along those lines.
Which means IMO
If Luffy, Law and Kidd are suppose to be rivals then theyw ill be pretty close in strength at EOS.
So
Luffy
Law
Kidd
BB
WB
Rodger
Shanks
Big Ma'am
Kaido
Akainu
Akoiji
Borsolino
Fujitora
Green bull
Mihawk

Possibly

Dragon
Sabo
Zoro
Gorosei
Killer

Will all be roughly the same strength between most of them, of course one will be slightly stronger than the next be to the point where it may not make a huge difference in an immediate conflict, such as Akainu is > than Akoiji but it was still an extreme diff fight on Akainu's behalf.

And one agree or disagree

Thoughts comments and Opinions are welcome.

 

[OG sama]

BB will be ahead of Law and Kid, they will still be a challenge to Luffy but they wont win.

Also the only people surpassing Roger/Primebeard in strength are Luffy and BB, there won't be a hand full of people stronger than them, they are legends after all.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Gorosei are just a bunch of rich people who are drunk on power. Powerwise they are probably like the celestials, rich fodder.

How is WB below luffy? Law? Heck Kidd? Unrestricted blood lust WB would freaking solo, lets not even get into PRIME WB, Prime WB was matched by Rogers, Rogers neg diffs everyone who isn't yonko level at least.how are you even putting a fearless yonko like big mom over kaidou the beast? The only thing doflamingo fears. Current BB is MUCH stronger than you're making him out to be not only is he absorbing more power but he has his own hax devil fruit with WB's to boot and shanks with one arm could fight off kaidou, every yonko and Rodgers is far above anyone in that list. Luffy gear four negs big momma at best, even then, bribe with candy, gg.

Assuming this list is from greatest to least because that what it's looking like.

 

[OG sama]

Gorosei are just a bunch of rich people who are drunk on power. Powerwise they are probably like the celestials, rich fodder.

How is WB below luffy? Law? Heck Kidd? Unrestricted blood lust WB would freaking solo, lets not even get into PRIME WB, Prime WB was matched by Rogers, Rogers neg diffs everyone who isn't yonko level at least.how are you even putting a fearless yonko like big mom over kaidou the beast? The only thing doflamingo fears. Current BB is MUCH stronger than you're making him out to be not only is he absorbing more power but he has his own hax devil fruit with WB's to boot and shanks with one arm could fight off kaidou, every yonko and Rodgers is far above anyone in that list. Luffy gear four negs big momma at best, even then, bribe with candy, gg.

Assuming this list is from greatest to least because that what it's looking like.

EOS Blackbeard should be stronger than Old Whitebeard so Luffy who will beat him will too.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

kidd and killerr are feat-lesss. I hate putting feat-less characters in power lists/

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

EOS Blackbeard should be stronger than Old Whitebeard so Luffy who will beat him will too.

That's debatable as physically white beard solos, the pure strength of whitebeard's physical prowess is what makes his DF so destructive, heck not even BB was going to go tie-to-toe with full health WB or even partial. WB full health stalemated shanks and they weren't even serious, while BB ran like a child away from shanks. But I'll have to see how much Blackbeard has improved first.

 

[OG sama]

That's debatable as physically white beard solos, the pure strength of whitebeard's physical prowess is what makes his DF so destructive, heck not even BB was going to go tie-to-toe with full health WB or even partial. WB full health stalemated shanks and they weren't even serious, while BB ran like a child away from shanks. But I'll have to see how much Blackbeard has improved first.

That was pre skip before he even had or mastered the GGnM, come EOS he will be a LOT stronger. In fact its possible that he may kill Shanks because lets be honest, Luffy is NOT giving that hat back to Shanks, its become a trademark of him.

 

[Relostar Devil]

That was pre skip before he even had or mastered the GGnM, come EOS he will be a LOT stronger. In fact its possible that he may kill Shanks because lets be honest, Luffy is NOT giving that hat back to Shanks, its become a trademark of him.

I think luffy will give his hat Back to shanks when he will become PK and maybe by that time shanks would have died fighting BB , so ya he wont give his hat back to him. He will probably give to some other kid in which he will see potential of being a PK

 

[YellowFang]

Yes there will be a massive competitive environment EOS...

Only thing that will put Luffy ahead others will be his PK title and that he'll achieve by reaching Raftel, not by becoming a god...
Gorosei are average New-Worlders at max...

And Luffy will be able to take on whole WG by forming a huge alliance with several others pirates and Revs...

 

[giostep]

BB will be ahead of Law and Kid, they will still be a challenge to Luffy but they wont win.

Also the only people surpassing Roger/Primebeard in strength are Luffy and BB, there won't be a hand full of people stronger than them, they are legends after all.

Gorosei are just a bunch of rich people who are drunk on power. Powerwise they are probably like the celestials, rich fodder.

How is WB below luffy? Law? Heck Kidd? Unrestricted blood lust WB would freaking solo, lets not even get into PRIME WB, Prime WB was matched by Rogers, Rogers neg diffs everyone who isn't yonko level at least.how are you even putting a fearless yonko like big mom over kaidou the beast? The only thing doflamingo fears. Current BB is MUCH stronger than you're making him out to be not only is he absorbing more power but he has his own hax devil fruit with WB's to boot and shanks with one arm could fight off kaidou, every yonko and Rodgers is far above anyone in that list. Luffy gear four negs big momma at best, even then, bribe with candy, gg.

Assuming this list is from greatest to least because that what it's looking like.

Thanks for the comments.

But my list above is in no particular order. Also i did state that there are some variations of strength but i doubt it will be enough to create an entire new tier. The PK was equaled by Garp and WB as far as the manga basically states to so assume that Luffy will be leagues ahead of anyone is a far stretch considering that the "first" PK was possibly matched by 2 other, 3 if Shiki is counted.

Also gorosei are featless and so is killer but by my own assumptions killer should be kidds counterpart of zoro, if so then he too will be immensely powerful, but yes he is still feat-less, and the gorosei will hopefully be a challenge and not just a group of fodder.

Any other characters that you guys forsee being "Yonkou" or "Admiral" tier'd by EOS.

 

[WhistleBlower]

Eos? .

 

[giostep]

Eos? .

End of Series, End of Story

 

[KingHashirama]

BB will be ahead of Law and Kid, they will still be a challenge to Luffy but they wont win.

Also the only people surpassing Roger/Primebeard in strength are Luffy and BB, there won't be a hand full of people stronger than them, they are legends after all.

You forgot Monkey D. DRagon.

 

[bajram]

There are 2 enemies I see Luffy fighting during the end of series, Akainu and BB, I dont know which one will be the first step to the PK title or even after he retains the PK title but that's not really important, these to should be strong enough to challenge Luffy by the end of the story, other than that there are other 2 fighters who will probably be at around the same ballpark, i.e Law and Kidd and at a close level the likes of Zoro and other yonkos/admirals, but it pretty hard to tell who will surpass prime WB/Roger it's still uncertain, atleast for me.

 

[Bogard]

Dude, Zoro will surpass Mihawk at the very least, there is no possibility in it. Knowing his historical and his role in the crew, he is very likely to remain close to Luffy. I'm not sure about Killer, but assuming Kid's rivarly will stay until the very end of the manga, very likely Killer will probably not be too far to Zoro's strength. Assuming Law doesn't die, he should be close to Luffy too. but BB will be the closest to his strength, so all in all, probably Kid, Law and Zoro in the same ballpark favouring Kid to be the closest. Infact, i'm starting to doubt if Luffy will ever surpass him in terms of straight up strength. I think Akainu will be surpassed really quickly though. Other than that, no way to know

 

[OG sama]

I think luffy will give his hat Back to shanks when he will become PK and maybe by that time shanks would have died fighting BB , so ya he wont give his hat back to him. He will probably give to some other kid in which he will see potential of being a PK

Shanks' son perhaps. He has a son with Makino, Oda hinted.

 

[OG sama]

Thanks for the comments.

But my list above is in no particular order. Also i did state that there are some variations of strength but i doubt it will be enough to create an entire new tier. The PK was equaled by Garp and WB as far as the manga basically states to so assume that Luffy will be leagues ahead of anyone is a far stretch considering that the "first" PK was possibly matched by 2 other, 3 if Shiki is counted.

Also gorosei are featless and so is killer but by my own assumptions killer should be kidds counterpart of zoro, if so then he too will be immensely powerful, but yes he is still feat-less, and the gorosei will hopefully be a challenge and not just a group of fodder.

Any other characters that you guys forsee being "Yonkou" or "Admiral" tier'd by EOS.

You mean that's not on the list. I guess Coby can be put up there and Sanji who I believe will be slightly stronger than Borsalino by EOS, Smoker as well, his performance may not be great right now but he will catch up, he still has many arcs to prove his worth.

You forgot Monkey D. DRagon.

I think that's debatable I think Dragon is strong, but not on par with the legends. Come EOS, I think his opponent during the war will be Kong. Who will give him one hard ass time, but I envision Kong to be just Admiral level. Probably stronger than them all except Akainu.

 

[Relostar Devil]

Shanks' son perhaps. He has a son with Makino, Oda hinted.

Just when?

 

[giostep]

You mean that's not on the list. I guess Coby can be put up there and Sanji who I believe will be slightly stronger than Borsalino by EOS, Smoker as well, his performance may not be great right now but he will catch up, he still has many arcs to prove his worth.



I think that's debatable I think Dragon is strong, but not on par with the legends. Come EOS, I think his opponent during the war will be Kong. Who will give him one hard ass time, but I envision Kong to be just Admiral level. Probably stronger than them all except Akainu.

Ye i forgot about Coby, he too will possibly be somewhere close to the Admirals later in the series, but the problem with that is that it requires that he is basically stronger than most of Luffy's crew which currently doesnt seem possible, I cant see coby being able to beat anyone in the SH. Smoker will probs "awaken" his DF and become very OP, we forsure havent seen the last of smoker, next time we see him he will be much stronger. Id like smoker to be Luffy's Garp more than Coby.

Dude, Zoro will surpass Mihawk at the very least, there is no possibility in it. Knowing his historical and his role in the crew, he is very likely to remain close to Luffy. I'm not sure about Killer, but assuming Kid's rivarly will stay until the very end of the manga, very likely Killer will probably not be too far to Zoro's strength. Assuming Law doesn't die, he should be close to Luffy too. but BB will be the closest to his strength, so all in all, probably Kid, Law and Zoro in the same ballpark favouring Kid to be the closest. Infact, i'm starting to doubt if Luffy will ever surpass him in terms of straight up strength (Referring to Kidd). I think Akainu will be surpassed really quickly though. Other than that, no way to know

1. Your right Zoro should be on the defintly list not the possibly.
2. Your right about that too, hopefully the rivalry between the Big 3 (Luffy, Law, Kidd) dont end after the yonkous the aim to defeat have been defeated.
3. Why do you think he wouldnt stay alive, considering what he has been through i (would like to) doubt that he will be killed off.
4. I would like to agree but atm im out on that one, I think there are a few pirates who will be very close to Luffy's level come EOS BB is the top contender but after the poor showing of Burgess its seeming like BB crew are a bunch of scrubs.
5. IMO Kidd has yet to show how he is stronger that Luffy, I mean his Bounty would be the only thing to hint that he is stronger than the rest of the SN, but when they were fighting the Marines as sab Luffy and Kidd were able to instantaneously cause the same damage. Luffy couldnt sustain it because of the draw back to G3 but that has been surpassed atm. I do believe that Law Luffy and Kidd will be 3 of 4 Yonko if the title still exists come EOS. Wouldnt it be interesting if Kidd and his alliance goes after Shanks.

 

[saw2097]

Honestly by the end of the series I suspect that Law and Kidd will be having cameo appearances at most.

This isn't Naruto were each generation reflects the previous one.

So far, after a arc that deals with a character's backstory, one of two things happens, they either become a Straw Hat or they basically disappear from the manga.

Neither Law or Kidd are becoming Straw Hats, so after there story arc is resolved its likely they will cameo at the most for the rest of the manga, their appearances at the end of the series will probably just be sidelines with them seen fighting fodders or vice admirals, the author probably won't even go into detail on their end of series strength.

The author has many other characters to focus on and many other story lines; there are other supernovas, the yonko, the admirals, the revolutionaries, the former Whitebeard pirates, and many others.

Law's story has more or less been told, he will probably just be helping out for the rest of the arc, I doubt we will get another arc with him having a role like he did in the Dressrossa Arc, and after the fall of Kaidou he will probably more or less disappear from the manga, except for the occasional pop up.