[Theory] Everyone is saying yondaime is related to nidaime bcoz both use space-time

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Even if both Tobirama and Minato had space-time ninjutsu, there's no way they were related. Tobirama was of the Senju clan, and Minato of the Namikaze clan (if it even exists anymore). Anyone who thinks Minato is a Senju is off by miles; it's just like saying Hiruzen was a Senju - that's wrong. Also, Tobirama died before Minato was even born, so that's another way we can cross off relation between the two (student and teacher). They have nothing in common that ties them together, except for the fact both were Hokage and their space-time ninjutsu, which might be different still. But as far as them being related, I do not think so, in any sense of the word.
You can't be 100% certain that Minato and Tobirama aren't related, last names are only half of it because you got to take into account his mothers side, While im not saying they are related there is a possibility, Same goes for Hiruzen
 

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You can't be 100% certain that Minato and Tobirama aren't related, last names are only half of it because you got to take into account his mothers side, While im not saying they are related there is a possibility, Same goes for Hiruzen
That means both the Sarutobi clan and Namikaze clan would have to be related to the Senju. Remember, the Senju clan did not give birth to all the smaller clans that make up Konoha today; they were only one of the many, like the Uchiha. Yes, the Senju are distantly related to the Uzumaki, but the probability that the Sarutobi and Namikaze are or were related to the Senju at some point in time is unlikely. Out of the many clans that existed during Hashirama's time, it would be a shot in the dark (in other words, a low chance) if the Sarutobi and Namikaze really were related to the Senju. This all my opinion of course.
 

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That means both the Sarutobi clan and Namikaze clan would have to be related to the Senju. Remember, the Senju clan did not give birth to all the smaller clans that make up Konoha today; they were only one of the many, like the Uchiha. Yes, the Senju are distantly related to the Uzumaki, but the probability that the Sarutobi and Namikaze are or were related to the Senju at some point in time is unlikely. Out of the many clans that existed during Hashirama's time, it would be a shot in the dark (in other words, a low chance) if the Sarutobi and Namikaze really were related to the Senju. This all my opinion of course.
I agree, I was just pointing out the fact that there is a possibilty
 

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you apparently don't know a word about english language. They don't have to be related in blood nor they have to be related by friendship. There are so many other ways to be related than those that you think of. Go back to school...
nah i was reading a post bout minato being blood related to tobirama.....u dnt need to be pissed off.....plus neither do u nor i have any proof to back up our theories so i request u to stop offending me.....
Ppl are related to one another becoz they are ppl...but we were talking bout blood relation.....u r so out of context...plz try to understand wat i am talking bout before u complain or offend me....and wat do u mean by i dnt understand english language???i did not get that part....i dnt need to go back to skool to understand wat blood relations are....if u dnt like the post then dnt read it.....u can share ur theories but u didnt and u offended me and plus u didnt elaborate ur theory.....
 

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madar and kakashi are exception since theirs revolve around shaingan, `and because other senju didnt learn doesnt mean it cant be a kg, just because your uchiha doesnt mean you'll automatically get sharingan
i support ur theory too and i know kakashi and madara's jutsu is sharingan based...but by kg it means that a certain clan can learn that jutsu...and senju and uchiha are different clans...only doujutsu's can be tranferes for example kakashi's sharingan.....other jutsu's like shikamaru's,ino's and chouji's can not be learned by any other clans even if they tried to teach them...
I understand by wat u mean by saying that since other senju did not learn space time it didnt mean it aint a kg but till now we know that minato is not a senju....
There is a possibilty that minato's mom or grandmom was senju but lets not consider that....plus in this post i presented a theory on how minato's space-time is connected to the uzumaki's seals he learned from kushina....
Dnt u think that maybe minato's jutsu was developed frm uzumaki sealing jutsus???
 

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i support ur theory too and i know kakashi and madara's jutsu is sharingan based...but by kg it means that a certain clan can learn that jutsu...and senju and uchiha are different clans...only doujutsu's can be tranferes for example kakashi's sharingan.....other jutsu's like shikamaru's,ino's and chouji's can not be learned by any other clans even if they tried to teach them...
I understand by wat u mean by saying that since other senju did not learn space time it didnt mean it aint a kg but till now we know that minato is not a senju....
There is a possibilty that minato's mom or grandmom was senju but lets not consider that....plus in this post i presented a theory on how minato's space-time is connected to the uzumaki's seals he learned from kushina....
Dnt u think that maybe minato's jutsu was developed frm uzumaki sealing jutsus???
I believe you have to have an affinity for space time like elemental affinity, his is based around seals, but I don't like to rule anything out. What i'm saying is who can learn space-time is random, like who can use wind element, and how you apply it is up to the user
 
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