[Theory] Everyone is saying yondaime is related to nidaime bcoz both use space-time

[kyuubisage]

well i just read a post here on narutobase and it was bout yondaime and nidaime beng realated becoz both look alike and both of them use space time ninjutsu....well there is a chance that yondaime mite be related to tobirama but not based on space-time ninjutsu...
If space-time was a kg then we wudve read somewhere bout hashirama using it too and not to mention tsunade is a senju as well...we also know that minato learned lots of uzumaki seals from kushina.....
well here is my idea:
minato learned different seals the uzumaki clan and we all know that minato's space time requires seals...not hand seals but the other kind that he has on those special kunai of his....well i think he developed space time jutsu from the seals he learned from the uzumaki's.....maybe the uzumaki's were able to do space time ninjutsu as well using seals as they were known to be best at sealing..

The reason why yondaime and nidaime cant be related coz of space time is bcoz madara and kakashi can use space time as well....so i thnk we cant conclude they are related...space time is not a kg...it is a jutsu which is rare but is definately not a kg....

I think the uzumakis were killed off becoz they were developing space time jutsu using their sealing knowledge....

This is just an idea though about minato's space time that think he was capable of doing bcoz of him being able to do uzumaki seals...

Plz feel free to remark on this post....

 

[StealthShinobi]

true there's no way for them to be releatives because tobimaru died at a young age so if minato was his grandson then he would've been much older just like tsunade who was the 1st hokage's grandson and because of what u stated above...

 

[~+h0lLy-cRab+~]

Well finaly someone to support me :X about minato and nidaime :X and the thing with uzumaki ... Yeah it's maybe true ...

 

[Regulus]

Madar and Kakashi are exception since theirs revolve around shaingan, `and because other senju didnt learn doesnt mean it cant be a KG, just because your Uchiha doesnt mean you'll automatically get sharingan

 

[StealthShinobi]

Madar and Kakashi are exception since theirs revolve around shaingan, `and because other senju didnt learn doesnt mean it cant be a KG, just because your Uchiha doesnt mean you'll automatically get sharingan

yes all warior type uchihas have them(even if they get it later in life)

 

[Regulus]

yes all warior type uchihas have them(even if they get it later in life)

What if there was a warrior type like rock lee and they can't use chakra, you need chakra to use sharingan

 

[milkduds]

Madar and Kakashi are exception since theirs revolve around shaingan, `and because other senju didnt learn doesnt mean it cant be a KG, just because your Uchiha doesnt mean you'll automatically get sharingan

could it be possible that the space-time technique that kakashi uses is the one that he sends anything to another dimension with his MS? cause everytime i hear space-time technique, i think about a ninja teleporting, and i never seen kakashi teleport.

 

[Regulus]

could it be possible that the space-time technique that kakashi uses is the one that he sends anything to another dimension with his MS? cause everytime i hear space-time technique, i think about a ninja teleporting, and i never seen kakashi teleport.

Yea, even though teleporting isn't space time either in Narutoverse

 

[StealthShinobi]

What if there was a warrior type like rock lee and they can't use chakra, you need chakra to use sharingan

thats just not uchiha like cuz they specialize in ninjutsu and especially fire jutsus and thier personal fav is katon:kogyaku no jutsu(fire release:grand fire ball jutsu)

could it be possible that the space-time technique that kakashi uses is the one that he sends anything to another dimension with his MS? cause everytime i hear space-time technique, i think about a ninja teleporting, and i never seen kakashi teleport.

teleportation in narutoverse means high speed movement and space-time ninjutsu is a differant thing,its sending things to other dimension or traveling to them and re-apearing in a differant place in our own dimension...

Yea, even though teleporting isn't space time either in Narutoverse

true.

 

[Regulus]

thats just not uchiha like cuz they specialize in ninjutsu and especially fire jutsus and thier personal fav is katon:kogyaku no jutsu(fire release:grand fire ball jutsu)



teleportation in narutoverse means high speed movement and space-time ninjutsu is a differant thing,its sending things to other dimension or traveling to them and re-apearing in a differant place in our own dimension...



true.

About the Uchiha, I'm not disagreeing with you but you have no proof that every single warrior uchiha had a sharingan, nor do I that they don't

 

[milkduds]

ahhh ok thanks, makes a lot more sense now

 

[kyuubisage]

what if there was a warrior type like rock lee and they can't use chakra, you need chakra to use sharingan

well technically rock lee can use chakra...he isnt capable of manipulating it in the correct way to perform ninjutsus....if he wasnt able to mold chakra then defend urself by providing me another theory bout rock lee walking vertically on mountains or opening the gates.....by opening gates a user is provided with enormous chakra and if rock lee was a dud in using chakra then why the hell does he need to go gates if he cant even use chakra??
Hope u come out with a decent xplanation....

 

[kyuubisage]

guys i wanna make sure to all of u that kekkai genkai's are jutsus that can be performed only n a certain clan so if the space time jutsu used by nidaime was a kg then madara and kakashi wud not be able to use it since a kekkai genkai is seen only among clansmen....and tobi aint n senju....and kakashi aint no senju either....so it dont mean that the other senju didnt activate their space time ninjutsu....i was too bored to quote so i posted a reply thread...lol..but im not offending any one's idea....im very pleased to hear ur ideas and i wud like to hear more theories bout minato's space time jutsu....

 

[Regulus]

well technically rock lee can use chakra...he isnt capable of manipulating it in the correct way to perform ninjutsus....if he wasnt able to mold chakra then defend urself by providing me another theory bout rock lee walking vertically on mountains or opening the gates.....by opening gates a user is provided with enormous chakra and if rock lee was a dud in using chakra then why the hell does he need to go gates if he cant even use chakra??
Hope u come out with a decent xplanation....

When I said he couldn't use chakra I meant he couldn't manipulate it, but he has very low chakra as it is so he wouldn't be able to use sharingan very long, if he was an uchiha of course

 

[Regulus]

guys i wanna make sure to all of u that kekkai genkai's are jutsus that can be performed only n a certain clan so if the space time jutsu used by nidaime was a kg then madara and kakashi wud not be able to use it since a kekkai genkai is seen only among clansmen....and tobi aint n senju....and kakashi aint no senju either....so it dont mean that the other senju didnt activate their space time ninjutsu....i was too bored to quote so i posted a reply thread...lol..but im not offending any one's idea....im very pleased to hear ur ideas and i wud like to hear more theories bout minato's space time jutsu....

Kakashis and Madaras space time jutsu involve the use of sharingan they are indeed KG and I doubt an entire classification of jutsu would be the KG of one clan

 

[Kaziname]

You apparently don't know a word about english language. They don't have to be related in blood nor they have to be related by friendship. There are so many other ways to be related than those that you think of. Go back to school...

 

[StealthShinobi]

About the Uchiha, I'm not disagreeing with you but you have no proof that every single warrior uchiha had a sharingan, nor do I that they don't

well back at kakashi gaiden obito called himself the black sheep of the uchiha clan and yet he was able to minipulate chackra but he didint have the sharingan(when he was talking with minato i think) so if he was called himself the black sheep of the uchiha clan just because he doesnt have a sharingan then all warior type uchihas should have it.

 

[Regulus]

well back at kakashi gaiden obito called himself the black sheep of the uchiha clan and yet he was able to minipulate chackra but he didint have the sharingan(when he was talking with minato i think) so if he was called himself the black sheep of the uchiha clan just because he doesnt have a sharingan then all warior type uchihas should have it.

I thought he called himself black sheep because he wasn't very good at fighting, I think everyone has the ability to unlock it but some just cant

 

[StealthShinobi]

I thought he called himself black sheep because he wasn't very good at fighting, I think everyone has the ability to unlock it but some just cant

he was able to use katon jutsus and thats increadible for his age and was able to use his sharingan in an awesome way as soon as he got it...

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Even if both Tobirama and Minato had space-time ninjutsu, there's no way they were related. Tobirama was of the Senju clan, and Minato of the Namikaze clan (if it even exists anymore). Anyone who thinks Minato is a Senju is off by miles; it's just like saying Hiruzen was a Senju - that's wrong. Also, Tobirama died before Minato was even born, so that's another way we can cross off relation between the two (student and teacher). They have nothing in common that ties them together, except for the fact both were Hokage and their space-time ninjutsu, which might be different still. But as far as them being related, I do not think so, in any sense of the word.