I think it is basically proven once we saw Madara getting pulled out of his Susano'o by Gaara's sand. Susano'o is spawned from the User's chakra and manipulative per the users will, but it isn't specifically attached directly to them and is subject to outside stimuli which can remove the Susano'o from the user. Although, specifically in Sasuke's cases, it would prove much more difficult given the added benefit of Enton Manipulation coating his Susano'o.
Boggy, the problem is you use more personal speculation instead of canonical evidence. Second, everyone here knows you love Minato more than KingHashirama loves Hashirama. You also don't take into account how chakra taxing FTG can be when teleporting things of large size, it's a misunderstanding that Minato can just spam FTG as he wishes.
Boggy, the problem is you use more personal speculation instead of canonical evidence. Second, everyone here knows you love Minato more than KingHashirama loves Hashirama. You also don't take into account how chakra taxing FTG can be when teleporting things of large size, it's a misunderstanding that Minato can just spam FTG as he wishes.
Gimme a break! So you're basically trying to prove him by saying that Minato can deal with Sasuke as well? Bogard stop being foolish! Amaterasu is no ordinary Katon!
The temperature in Amaterasu surpasses Kanton jutsus by a large margin. By the time the Kunai makes it to Sasuke it will turn into dust. Sasuke also can use Enton Magatama to deflect the projectiles! Sasuke can use his Kunais as well. Goodness what a fanboy you have become Bogard!
Since Bogard loves to add small twists to his theories. What i meant with that comment is the speed of the Kunai is heading towards Sasuke's Susanoo. Sasuke can use other alternatives to block the Kunais, but it's a possibility that the speed of the traveling Kunai can make the burning process faster.
Since Bogard loves to add small twists to his theories. What i meant with that comment is the speed of the Kunai is heading towards Sasuke's Susanoo. Sasuke can use other alternatives to block the Kunais, but it's a possibility that the speed of the traveling Kunai can make the burning process faster.
Sasuke can use Amaterasu in a much more effective way than normal Katon and Amaterasu, in the form of Enton: Kagutsuchi.
Sasuke can use Amaterasu in the form of Yasaka Magatama and burn the kunais to the crisp as it is a much higher volume of Amaterasu compared to the normal jutsu. Zetsu were burnt in the torso [
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Mere kunai [which are indeed smaller in volume than Zetsu] can not survive being burnt to a crisp by Sasuke's Yasaka Magatama.
Just as I thought. These fanboys can't accept reality. If gaara was able to pull Madara from his Susanoo then it means that it is not part of his body and FTG can separate that as well.
For those who keep on saying Tsukuyomi, can anyone of you answer my question.
What is the distance that tsukuyomi can be applied effectively? Everyone keeps on saying tsukuyomi when infact they don't know the distance where tsukuyomi can be applied. Manga shows that it's a short distance. Short distance against Minato is speed blitz gg..
Now, Sasuke covering Susanoo with Amaterasu so Minato can't touch him. Answer this fanboys.....
Would it hurt Minato to just watch sasuke die from chakra exhaustion? Sasuke needs to activate 2 techs just to avoid a kunai thrown at him! Dying from chakra exhaustion is most likely to happen!
No matter what these Uchihas do, they can't harm Minato (ST barrier, speed) and they'll all die from chakra exhaustion by just protecting themselves from Minato's FTG or speedblitz assuming they all know Minato's FTG versions. If they don't know the FTG v2 then they all get Obito'd..
For those who keep on saying Tsukuyomi, can anyone of you answer my question.
What is the distance that tsukuyomi can be applied effectively? Everyone keeps on saying tsukuyomi when infact they don't know the distance where tsukuyomi can be applied. Manga shows that it's a short distance. Short distance against Minato is speed blitz gg...
the problem with uchiha fanboys that they think the tsukuyomi is automatically and it will be activated by itself
whenever someone look at itachi's eye!! and that is not the case!
Wow, fanboys are mad. By the way, tsukyomi is one of the most overrated jutsus ever. How hard is it to avoid eye contact? I almost never look someone in the eye. I don't like it. It's not unavoidable.
Wow, fanboys are mad. By the way, tsukyomi is one of the most overrated jutsus ever. How hard is it to avoid eye contact? I almost never look someone in the eye. I don't like it. It's not unavoidable.
How so when 3/4 jounins couldn't fight without eye contact against 1 uchiha. 1/5 hokages got caught in a eye genjutsu while fighting 1 Uchiha. Only a select few is combatant enough to fight against Uchihas without eye contact 1v1 and they were all from the Senju/Uchiha era. Gai is the only real special proven case. Everyone else seems to be hindered while fighting.
OT: The Amaterasu argument seems to be pretty solid if seals were placed before hand. As for Susanoo we all know direct contact is needed to teleport others. A simple kunai is not direct contact with the seal embedded onto the lower half of Minato's kunai. We also know Minato needs time to gather chakra for large targets.
I kinda agree that ftg can nullify most physical attacks, this page right here proves that a user can basically poof away from the black flames of amaterasu, even after they've made contact.
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not trying to say that an uchiha is helpless against Minato, but he craps on most physical attacks
Just as I thought. These fanboys can't accept reality. If gaara was able to pull Madara from his Susanoo then it means that it is not part of his body and FTG can separate that as well.
For those who keep on saying Tsukuyomi, can anyone of you answer my question.
What is the distance that tsukuyomi can be applied effectively? Everyone keeps on saying tsukuyomi when infact they don't know the distance where tsukuyomi can be applied. Manga shows that it's a short distance. Short distance against Minato is speed blitz gg..
Now, Sasuke covering Susanoo with Amaterasu so Minato can't touch him. Answer this fanboys.....
Would it hurt Minato to just watch sasuke die from chakra exhaustion? Sasuke needs to activate 2 techs just to avoid a kunai thrown at him! Dying from chakra exhaustion is most likely to happen!
No matter what these Uchihas do, they can't harm Minato (ST barrier, speed) and they'll all die from chakra exhaustion by just protecting themselves from Minato's FTG or speedblitz assuming they all know Minato's FTG versions. If they don't know the FTG v2 then they all get Obito'd..
Damn this must be bogards 100th dehype ms and hype hiraishin thread lol. Perhaps i should get in on the action, id like to think i can play that game fairly well. Though its nothing new and its been going on since the beginning of time, dehyping certain characters and hyping your character, so we have all been drawn into the circle. What is funny however is those who shout hater or fanboy yet in a few threads later see these very people suck the last drop of nut outta their fav character and have the nerve to call another person a fanboy.
If people do no agree perhaps its because its a theory, sounds like those derp fanboys whom like himself cannot acknowledge a theory. To call somebody who doesn't agree an uchiha fanboy/hater is to call yourself a minato fanboy/hater, its all the same.
Anyway bogard id firstly agree with all you have said, but say its near impractical in a battle situation.
Then later disagree with it.
As people have said firstly for Sasuke it isn't possible due to his ability to manipulate amaterasu around his susano, therefore any form of contact will set the person's hand ablaze.
Secondly susanoo is actually one of the most practical jutsu's in the series, because its made up of chakra, a susano user can increase its size, im not talking about going through its stages but rather stay at stage 1 but make that stage larger. Likewise they can create arms and are not restricted to how many arms they can create, to further use as an offense.
Thirdly because they can manipulate susano, they can weave seals and form attacks while in susano. We have seen madara and sasuke both use katon's or amaterasu in susano. So no susano user will stand there when an opponent is right in front of them and watch them do what they want.
Because its made of chakra, if the user has the chakra they can erect it again, this most applies to madara and sasuke
Coming into direct contact basically means increasing the availability of sharingan genjutsu which is short range. Which brings me to Tsukuyomi. It appears as i have said above dehyping and hyping jutsu's is nothing new, and certain character fans have been combating and trying to dehype tsukuyomi as much as possible.
Firstly its been stated to be short range in the DB and that is. Its never explicitly stated to have a max limit of 5m, and yh i have checked the DB. So why this fanfic 5m that certain people have slapped on it is beyond me unless they can explicitly show a scan with range being 5m max, others id like to go with the Db entry range of short range which as i said is vague. It can mean 0-3, 0-5, or 0-7 even.
I think when people here short range they think take it literally and think it means face to face, which isnt true [
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And minato is no might Gai. Yes he managed to get the better of Obito however that was most likely his first ever uchiha he has faced and admittedly did fairly well, but that doesn't now make him an expert at fighting the sharingan lol. In the end this is what itachi will say to him [
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Anyway that ^ whole purpose was to agree on the surface with your thread, while showing you that in a fight it will not be as simple as some people claim.
Next is me disagreeing with the thread. Im not countering amaterasu, because yh i believe its avoidable on most cases for minato though there are certain cases where it could work with a strategy, but overall yh i agree.
There has become a no limit wank with hiraishin, that is now rivalling preta paths ability to absorb everything or itachi's yata mirror that can be block everything. Ive never been the one to take preta paths or the yata mirrors statements in the db and manga seriously because then it becomes a no limit wank.
If we were to go strictly by everything in the manga/db then no limit exists. Reason im saying this is because as its been shown he can teleport things he if he has direct contact with them or chakra and he can decide what to teleport. But then we get a no limit wank where people now say something like, well if this is true and gong strictly with that statement he can:
Teleport a persons body and not their head therefore beheading them
He can teleport a rinnegan user or a sharigan users eyes out of their head
He can strip an opponents clothes off them
Basically going strict by that statement you might as well say he can do all that, when really i very much doubt it no different to how i doubt the statements in the manga and db on preta path and yata mirror. You then start to create a whole level of wank and start creating feats for a technique that i very much doubt kishi will decide to give it that much power.
Next as we all know susano is basically an extension of the user's chakra, its part of the user and that is why everytime a susano user moves its moves with them. A testament of this is when gaara had to hold it down to rip madara's out otherwise it will follow the user. People believe because itachi can stand our of susano or madara can stand on top of susano's head means its a weakness when really its a strength because its their mastery of the technique that allows them to detach to it if possible so madara can create a scenario where, his susano is attacking you from an angle and he is attacking you from another angle, so it because a 2 vs 1 scenario.
Anyway we saw that Minato teleported both sasuke and his susano as both disappeared. If minato only teleported sasuke, then we would have seen his susano still next to obito, yet both him and the susano disappeared.
Both, Susanoo and the user (sasuke), disappeared. Fact.
There is no susano near obito, if minato did indeed separate the two.
Ill show you something that is even more clear.
If you look at sasuke's susano you would note that, in the upper image it has a flare of susano
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At the bottom page, the whole of susano left along with the user, apart from the little flare outside of susano
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More importantly if you look at the scan again, Naruto chakra hand held sasuke's trousers and not even the susano [
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It may very well be that minato just teleported both on purpose and didn't decide to split them, that or the chakra extension of the susano user when touched with minato's chakra teleports both of them. This is so far admittedly your most convincing dehype ms and hype hiraishin thread though, ill give you that
Just as I thought. These fanboys can't accept reality. If gaara was able to pull Madara from his Susanoo then it means that it is not part of his body and FTG can separate that as well.
For those who keep on saying Tsukuyomi, can anyone of you answer my question.
What is the distance that tsukuyomi can be applied effectively? Everyone keeps on saying tsukuyomi when infact they don't know the distance where tsukuyomi can be applied. Manga shows that it's a short distance. Short distance against Minato is speed blitz gg..
Now, Sasuke covering Susanoo with Amaterasu so Minato can't touch him. Answer this fanboys.....
Would it hurt Minato to just watch sasuke die from chakra exhaustion? Sasuke needs to activate 2 techs just to avoid a kunai thrown at him! Dying from chakra exhaustion is most likely to happen!
No matter what these Uchihas do, they can't harm Minato (ST barrier, speed) and they'll all die from chakra exhaustion by just protecting themselves from Minato's FTG or speedblitz assuming they all know Minato's FTG versions. If they don't know the FTG v2 then they all get Obito'd..
tsukyomi is effective outside sensor range. i will shut you up with manga quote right after these facts: minato might be able to counter ms techniques with hiraishin but not genjutsu which keeps users body totally inside illusion and is more instant than ftg > (faster than light)
tsukyomi is effective outside sensor range. i will shut you up with manga quote right after these facts: minato might be able to counter ms techniques with hiraishin but not genjutsu which keeps users body totally inside illusion and is more instant than ftg > (faster than light)
no, you didn't own anything, all this proves is that itachi can control ppl remotely from a distance, and if that was the case then obviously he could've done this to kabuto instead of fighting him and putting sasuke at risk. So it's safe to assume that this long ranged tech Ao speaks of is not tsukiyomi, and itachi considers the tech itself inferior to the point that he'd rather use Izanami and lose an eye, than attempt to control kabuto from a distance.
no, you didn't own anything, all this proves is that itachi can control ppl remotely from a distance, and if that was the case then obviously he could've done this to kabuto instead of fighting him and putting sasuke at risk. So it's safe to assume that this long ranged tech Ao speaks of is not tsukiyomi, and itachi considers the tech it inferior to the point that he'd rather use Izanami and lose an eye, than attempt to control kabuto from a distance.
kabuto was in cave. and he got owned too so... and yeah blaze/databook? said too tsukyomi is short range so okay. but nevertheless itachi can cast illusion outside minato's sensor range and that alone is sharingan ability which means itachi see minato but not other way around
so why minato is not owned by this ability alone? because he have kage level chakra?? heh
kabuto was in cave. and he got owned too so... and yeah blaze/databook? said too tsukyomi is short range so okay. but nevertheless itachi can cast illusion outside minato's sensor range and that alone is sharingan ability which means itachi see minato but not other way around
so why minato is not owned by this ability alone? because he have kage level chakra?? heh
