EMS Sasuke vs 3rd Raikage

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Clearly you and people aren't aware of his skills. Please explain whats a linear fighter and how it decides this battle.
It decides this battle because Raikage is a predictable fighter, he is linear. Much like Bee and Ay in v1/v2, Sasuke has already effectively reacted to both, and has even dodged not only Bee in midair w/ injuries, but also successfully evaded Ay's strike pre EMS.

With his precognition and speed, Raikage would have trouble hitting him, let alone defeating him. Sasuke keeps pressure on him via Enton Magatama and or multiple Susano'o arrows, followed by Amaterasu. He is not dodging Amaterasu, as Ay needed v2 to escape MS Sasuke's LoS. Amaterasu when concentrated was hot enough to make Muki Tensei effects become non existent, as well as burn through Jiraiya's toad trap instantly. Raikage gets shit on.
 
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EMS Sasuke had the reactions to tag juubito, SM Naruto blitzed sandaime.

you could restrict susanoo and sasuke would probably still win with his enton sword/amaterasu eventually.
 
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Amaterasu to the face ends him instantly burning out his eyes etc...


Yea not an effective counter, when most characters that couldn't react to Amastersu, in their conditions, just put their hands up, so hitting the face is almost nearly impossible.


Without Enton/Amaterasu Sasuke has multiple ways to defeat him he's not strong enough just saying.
Lmao, please list these "multiple" ways

This is correct.
Conditions disagree
 

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Yea not an effective counter, when most characters that couldn't react to Amastersu, in their conditions, just put their hands up, so hitting the face is almost nearly impossible.




Lmao, please list these "multiple" ways



Conditions disagree
Let's see here Sasuke clearly has the speed advantage here. Manda Aoda Multiple Susanoo arrows Genjutsu standing Susanoo v4 Susanoo ration spear through the eye etc...
 

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It decides this battle because Raikage is a predictable fighter, he is linear. Much like Bee and Ay in v1/v2, Sasuke has already effectively reacted to both, and has even dodged not only Bee in midair w/ injuries, but also successfully evaded Ay's strike pre EMS.

With his precognition and speed, Raikage would have trouble hitting him, let alone defeating him. Sasuke keeps pressure on him via Enton Magatama and or multiple Susano'o arrows, followed by Amaterasu. He is not dodging Amaterasu, as Ay needed v2 to escape MS Sasuke's LoS. Amaterasu when concentrated was hot enough to make Muki Tensei effects become non existent, as well as burn through Jiraiya's toad trap instantly. Raikage gets shit on.
Proof that Ay said he needs V2 to dodge Amaterasu?

Amaterasu is not harming him. Couldn't burn fodder samurai armor. or the clothes they were wearing.

Enton is not touching him, nor Amaterasu.

Susanoo makes Sasuke slower, using it is him sealing his own fate Hell Stab cuts his Susanoo with him inside it in half.
 

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Let's see here Sasuke clearly has the speed advantage here.


Which will be useless without Enton

Manda Aoda


Aren't doing shit, period. They cant hurt or damage him, they get juggernaut

Multiple Susanoo arrows
Lmao, aint doing shit, they have no penetrating power thats even in comparison to 1 finger Nukite



Isn't catching nobody, in constant movement and awareness.

standing Susanoo v4 Susanoo
How about you read the condtions. Did he used this before or after Kabuto's fight, as the conditions stated everything Sasuke can do prioir to Kabuto's.

Not that it matters as none of these attacks can damage Raikage

ration spear through the eye etc...
Lol Not only is this an unrealistic counter, raiton isn't even going to get pass his raiton cloak.
 

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Even without Enton and Amaterasu Sasuke still get's the job done...
And hows that? His Chidori barely pierced the 4th Raikage in V1. How is that suppose to hurt someone that tanked FRS? Not to mention the variants of Chidori are weaker than the actual focused original version of the Jutsu. His Chidori blade bounced off the Raikage's Cloak like a stick.

All of his Katons are tanked. The only real arugment is Genjutsu.
 

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Proof that Ay said he needs V2 to dodge Amaterasu?

Amaterasu is not harming him. Couldn't burn fodder samurai armor. or the clothes they were wearing.

Enton is not touching him, nor Amaterasu.

Susanoo makes Sasuke slower, using it is him sealing his own fate Hell Stab cuts his Susanoo with him inside it in half.
Wow, obviously you know nothing of Amaterasu and how it works. Amaterasu is based on LoS, Raikage needed v2 to escape Sasuke's LoS, it was clear as day he needed it. Enton isn't touching him? What? Enton is used as a defense and a distraction, if the Raikage attacks Susano'o, he gets ignited.

Lol, you used Amaterasu and it's worst feat, yet didn't counter me at all. Amaterasu burned through Toad trap instantly, as well as reverted the changes Muki Tensei made in the cave instantly. It is going to kill Raikage, and or blind him(full body Amaterasu).

Susano'o isn't needed, his precog and speed alonr allows him to dodge Raikage, he can also utilize his hawk to snipe him from while lowering in elevation.

Your argument holds no merit, and you are simply biased if you actually believe Amaterasu is evaded, as Raikage couldn't with v1. This Sasuke would easily track Ay, let alone someone with inferior speed.

I'm logging out for tonight.
 

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Which will be useless without Enton



Aren't doing shit, period. They cant hurt or damage him, they get juggernaut



Lmao, aint doing shit, they have no penetrating power thats even in comparison to 1 finger Nukite



Isn't catching nobody, in constant movement and awareness.



How about you read the condtions. Did he used this before or after Kabuto's fight, as the conditions stated everything Sasuke can do prioir to Kabuto's.

Not that it matters as none of these attacks can damage Raikage



Lol Not only is this an unrealistic counter, raiton isn't even going to get pass his raiton cloak.
Why is nukit so overrated it's greatest feat is piercing the 3rd Raikage if im correct he's only suppose to be as tough as steel.( ). All Sasuke has to do is get close Susanoo proceeds to snatch him up and genjutsu puts him down the ration spear the the eye... Manda all he has to do is swallow him and Sasuke makes Manda go poof and Raikage levels with him... Plus the 3rd Raikage isn't doing anything to a Susanoo of this level.( ).

And hows that? His Chidori barely pierced the 4th Raikage in V1. How is that suppose to hurt someone that tanked FRS? Not to mention the variants of Chidori are weaker than the actual focused original version of the Jutsu. His Chidori blade bounced off the Raikage's Cloak like a stick.

All of his Katons are tanked. The only real arugment is Genjutsu.
Clearly said raition spear through his eye listen before you type...
 

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Why is nukit so overrated it's greatest feat is piercing the 3rd Raikage if im correct he's only suppose to be as tough as steel.( ).


Piercing himself is a very great feat, considering he tanked a Kurama boost FRS. The same type of power a FRS can do to the likes of Danzo's Futton, that blow V3 Susanoo's back. lanakui8 brought that point up a long ago.

All Sasuke has to do is get close Susanoo proceeds to snatch him up and genjutsu puts him down the ration spear the the eye... Manda all he has to do is swallow him and Sasuke makes Manda go poof and Raikage levels with him... Plus the 3rd Raikage isn't doing anything to a Susanoo of this level.( ).
Clearly said raition spear through his eye listen before you type...
And the rest I'm not even going to take serious.
 

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Piercing himself is a very great feat, considering he tanked a Kurama boost FRS. The same type of power a FRS can do to the likes of Danzo's Futton, that blow V3 Susanoo's back. lanakui8 brought that point up a long ago.



And the rest I'm not even going to take serious.
Its interesting to see hypocrites attacking me for using arguments that the manga can support, without the need to see it in manga scans to make valid point. The same people calling me out on "fanfic" end up turning around and make inductive reasoning on why this character has access to do this. It's so funny that they did it recently, stating in a match up, that Madara can use Shin Sūsenju.

Enough of the rambling, I fail to see how Kurama can even solo this match up. Kabuto still has Hashirama's cells inside of him and the manga supports that Kabuto has the ability to manifest cells to access the characters ability. Now with that said, Kabuto already admitted that he doesn't have full intel on Hashirama's abilities but he does witness some abilities through Madara, and the basic knowledge of jutsu everyone knows about. These two [ ][ ] jutsu alone should be able to stop a mindless creature, with no defense support, or give some troubling.

The good thing about using Sōma no Kō is that you are able to do a combination and multitask with your "partner". Kabuto's can perform a jutsu while Hashirama cells using Mokuton on top of it, as an example.


A good way to take Kurama out is to Spawn Mokuton on Kurama, Madara of course is going to force Kurama to blow up the terrain then with Kabuto. But Kabuto, on the other hand, can summon a snake to be used as a meat shield. Mokuton simply could of brought out time for a snake to reach Kurama in close quaters. Kurama fires a TBB and Kurama also gets hit in the cross fire. Another Mokuton will catch him in his vulnerability.

Muki Tensei is still a perfect way to level the ground to where they are standing, to change the trajectory of a TBB, before being fired. Even Muki Tensei and Mokuton would make a great combo. Not because Muki Tensei manipulate wood (because it can't) but the very ground that they are standing on can change and shift Kurama and Madara's attack patterns.

The only threat to Kabuto here is a TBB, to which he has many ways to prevent for exploding on him and used against Kurama himself.
Remember you said this before your not going to take someone serious?
 

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Remember you said this before your not going to take someone serious?
Nope because your are making unrealistic counters. You can quote me on something I gave evidence to support my claim, as of everyone else does that lacks manga panels to prove the claim regardless of not being shown. It isn't going to mean shit and you just dodging your idiocy and layering it with tu-quoque.
 

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Nope because your are making unrealistic counters. You can quote me on something I gave evidence to support my claim, as of everyone else does that lacks manga panels to prove the claim regardless of not being shown. It isn't going to mean shit and you just dodging your idiocy and layering it with tu-quoque.
Sasuke get's close then uses his Susanoo and proceed to grab him like this.( ). Once he caught this happens.( ). Then ration through the eye...

Once he rushes Sasuke for a swing a Susanoo rib cage punches his 4arm and sends his finger through his chest similar to what Naruto did...
 

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Sasuke get's close then uses his Susanoo and proceed to grab him like this.( ). Once he caught this happens.( ). Then ration through the eye...

Once he rushes Sasuke for a swing a Susanoo rib cage punches his 4arm and sends his finger through his chest similar to what Naruto did...
Ay got caught only by being distracted, so not happening here in CQC scenario. Not only will Susanoo slow to his movements, but Raikage's Nukite as the penetrating power to juggernaut through that level of Susanoo.

And SusanooSasuke is going to replicate a Naruto feat with no intel? Nice.
 

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Sasuke wins without EMS.
-MS Sasuke tired from the Itachi fight dodged v1 Bee easily.
-MS Sasuke caught v1 Bee in genjutsu while Bee was moving.
-MS Sasuke said he could easily predict v1 Bee's linear movements.
-Enton arrow can damage the Third Raikage. Any Enton variant lights him on fire.
-Sasuke is as fast in MS way faster in EMS.
-Amateratsu one shots him, shroud doesn't affect it since it isn't tangible.
-v3 Susano won't be affected by Hell Stab, so he can sit in it and smash the Raikage.
 

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Sasuke wins without EMS.
-MS Sasuke tired from the Itachi fight dodged v1 Bee easily.
-MS Sasuke caught v1 Bee in genjutsu while Bee was moving.
-MS Sasuke said he could easily predict v1 Bee's linear movements.
-Enton arrow can damage the Third Raikage. Any Enton variant lights him on fire.
-Sasuke is as fast in MS way faster in EMS.
-Amateratsu one shots him, shroud doesn't affect it since it isn't tangible.
-v3 Susano won't be affected by Hell Stab, so he can sit in it and smash the Raikage.
did MS sasuke even have the MS arrow?
Also, it's implied that sasuke would have been unable to avoid V1 bee if he didn't catch him in genjutsu, and V1 bee is how fast compared to Sandaime?
then there's the fact that the sasuke who avoided bee never used a single MS jutsu. If sasuke uses an MS jutsu, his body will be gimped immediately after.

However here's the dinosaur question:
How in the world will V3 susanoo not be affected by hellstab when it gets blown open by a fuuton that's not even close to the power of FRS?
 
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