EMS Sasuke & KCM Naruto

EMS Sasuke equal to KCM Naruto?


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Avinash012

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That before Sasuke got the Susanoo or even obtain Enton...and Zetsu clearly didn't know what really happened between Naruto and Nagato/Pain(stated by Tobi/Obito​



^When Zetsu said Naruto was so call being stronger than MS Sasuke....Chapter 453​




^When Sasuke activated Susanoo chapter 464...Sasuke was still unlocking other forms of Susanoo'o after(when he fought Danzo and Kakash)​

I can still say that by feats SM Naruto >= MS Sasuke......
 

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Usng Susanoo continouously ...?

Usng Susanoo without draing more chkra..?

No bleedng from Eye..?

Enton arrowns...?

Effictiveness of Enton..?

Dis advantages of MS...?

EMS was the power up that allowed Madara to become on equal footing with Hashirama, do you really think that this is all that there is? The release from fatigue?
Also, we haven't seen whether Sasuke's genjutsu improved, what his Complete Susanoo's durability& list of techs., or if there is another jutsu gained from achieving EMS.
Again, compared to Naruto who we have seen plenty of feats from we have seen next to nothing from Sasuke.
 

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Are you for real? What's this garbage Poll? He is using the basic EMS yet Naruto is not even close to him in KCM so he have to adjust his power because Naruto lacks tremendously in that form to compete with Sasuke Lol

Basic EMS ...?
where did u get that garbage...?
Yes Sasuke have to increase his power bcoz he can't keepup with Naruto's strength...........
It is a life or death match for both of them ....!
 

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As Kurama said Naruto can mach His chakra to anybody not just transfer it but mach it to thats persons need. This includes mating the amount in a jutsu in a collaboration so it doesn't over power the other guys jutsu.
 

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EMS Sasuke stomps KCM Naruto

however, BM Naruto is another story entirely. he stomps Sasuke badly
 

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EMS was the power up that allowed Madara to become on equal footing with Hashirama, do you really think that this is all that there is? The release from fatigue?
Also, we haven't seen whether Sasuke's genjutsu improved, what his Complete Susanoo's durability& list of techs., or if there is another jutsu gained from achieving EMS.
Again, compared to Naruto who we have seen plenty of feats from we have seen next to nothing from Sasuke.

Just show me a scan where it says Sasuke wil get more power and he had more jutsu...!

Dnt make foolish assumptns on ur own ....there is no proof to say that Sasuke had PS or he'll get PS....!

Yes he'll probably get it since he is the only one besides Madara to have EMS but we still have no proof and u can't compare them based on that...

U didn't see any thing from Sasuke..?

Read Manga properly ..he fought against Kabuto and u can observe his abilities from that Fight

Everyone in NV knw that Susanoo is ultimate power of an Uchiha....

As much as we have seen Till now Sasuke is no match for Naruto...If u want to add PS for Sasuke them I'll give a new mode that make's Naruto to use both sage mode and BM together and stomps Sasuke with his new power and Minato wil give other half of Kyubi to Naruto and he'll stomp Sasuke..............
 

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Smartass, he isn't even gone full out in EMS and somebody made a thread if he is equal to KCM? Are you dumb?
He has yet to use his V4 of Susano'o and his Enton orb, also we still don't know the limits of his Enton.
What a ridiculous question if he is equal to KCM when he is above it...
Here am usng feats not foolish imaginations

Show me a scan that says Sasuke has PS........?
(I personally belive that he'll get PS but we still have no proof)

WE still dnt knw the extent of Enton ...?
Do u knw with whome Sasuke is dealing with now...?

Insted of usng it against the most powerful Shinobi in the world what is the crap Sasuke is dong now.........

If Sasuke had a Teq that is stronger than Enton and Susanoo ,Y did he need Naruto's FRS to attack Obito.........
 
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I want u to telme how Sasuke beats SM Naruto......

Okay, then...just open the spoiler​

Yes, the Genjutsu becomes more powerful, but does Naruto have Genjutsu usage? no

The 3 Toads can be easily turn into ash with Amaterasu or Blaze Release.



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^Here is the Toads having so much trouble with Pain dogs forget about Beaked Bird summoning.



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^While Amaterasu easily destroyed Pain dogs and Beaked Bird summoning and Sasuke Amaterasu is superior to Itachi's in every way.

Power: yes, Naruto does have a lot of power in Sage Mode, but so does Susanoo.



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^Susanoo has proven that it has a dangerous power that can easily destroy the ground and this only Incomplete.



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^Again, yet another example of Susanoo power.

Sage Mode Clones or Clones doesn't matter in Sasuke's way.

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^Sasuke new Susanoo showed that it can easily damage multiple enemies at the same time and good use against a Clone user.

Sensor Ability: yes, Naruto is by far the best sensor in NV, but that Sensor Ability doesn't matter if your body can't move at the same speed.....it's like a Sharingan user.

Ninjutsu: Naruto has a good Ninjutsu usage, but none i mean none of his Rasengans or Rasenshurkien(his most power move is any use against Susanoo.

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^Ribcage Susanoo>>>>>>Chou Odama Rasengan

Susanoo>>>>>>Rasenshurkien

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^Susanoo>Gaara's Ultimate Defence and this was only the Incomplete Susanoo.........Final Susanoo>Complete Susanoo>Incomplete Susanoo>Ribcage Susanoo

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^Gaara's Ultimate Defence>3rd Railkage Ulimate Shield

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^3rd Railkage Ulimate Shield>Rasenshurkien

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^Susanoo arrow: this technique is easily on of the fastest in NV that a fast Ninja like "Kakashi" needed to use "Kamui" to save himself so unless you're saying SM Naruto is as fast as Kamui then you shouldn't even start debating.

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^Now this attack doesn't just have an amount of speed that's nearly hard to Dodge, but also a force that can easily go throw Mokuton.

When did SM Naruto dodged react Juubi beam or are making **** up like always to save yourself or maybe, are talking about BM? because if you are then this thread is about SM Naruto not BM Naruto.

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^Now the Railkage(who's the next to Naruto and Minato being the 3rd fastest Ninja in the world)need to go on his V2 just to counter the Amaterasu

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^CO even said "He's going to counter it with his "Shunshin no Jutsu" and this when he at his full speed.

Sasuk also has Hawk summoning.....he can easily fly and shot down Amaterasu fireballs and destroy Naruto's Clones and the Toads and Naruto no way to reach Sasuke.

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^Hawk Summoning

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^Naruto himself admitted that his SM is Beneath Sasuke's MS......look how that turn out to be:rolleyes:

Now, it's your turn to tell me how SM Naruot beats MS Sasuke....take your time.​
 
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I think that's the idea, EMS is Sasuke's equivalent to KCM, however I doubt we will ever get confirmation as I think both of them have yet to receive their final upgrade and who is stronger probably won't be an issue until much later on.
 

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Just show me a scan where it says Sasuke wil get more power and he had more jutsu...!

Dnt make foolish assumptns on ur own ....there is no proof to say that Sasuke had PS or he'll get PS....!

Yes he'll probably get it since he is the only one besides Madara to have EMS but we still have no proof and u can't compare them based on that...

U didn't see any thing from Sasuke..?

Read Manga properly ..he fought against Kabuto and u can observe his abilities from that Fight

Everyone in NV knw that Susanoo is ultimate power of an Uchiha....

As much as we have seen Till now Sasuke is no match for Naruto...If u want to add PS for Sasuke them I'll give a new mode that make's Naruto to use both sage mode and BM together and stomps Sasuke with his new power and Minato wil give other half of Kyubi to Naruto and he'll stomp Sasuke..............

Question: Have you seen Sasuke physically exert his himself once since entering the battlefield?
All the techniques that Sasuke is currently pulling out are feats he could have accomplished in MS with about a week of training.
We have seen Naruto go all out already so if Sasuke is holding back of course Naruto would appear stronger
 

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Okay, then...just open the spoiler​

Yes, the Genjutsu becomes more powerful, but does Naruto have Genjutsu usage? no

The 3 Toads can be easily turn into ash with Amaterasu or Blaze Release.



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^Here is the Toads having so much trouble with Pain dogs forget about Beaked Bird summoning.



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^While Amaterasu easily destroyed Pain dogs and Beaked Bird summoning and Sasuke Amaterasu is superior to Itachi's in every way.

Power: yes, Naruto does have a lot of power in Sage Mode, but so does Susanoo.



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^Susanoo has proven that it has a dangerous power that can easily destroy the ground and this only Incomplete.



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^Again, yet another example of Susanoo power.

Sage Mode Clones or Clones doesn't matter in Sasuke's way.

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^Sasuke new Susanoo showed that it can easily damage multiple enemies at the same time and good use against a Clone user.

Sensor Ability: yes, Naruto is by far the best sensor in NV, but that Sensor Ability doesn't matter if your body can't move at the same speed.....it's like a Sharingan user.

Ninjutsu: Naruto has a good Ninjutsu usage, but none i mean none of his Rasengans or Rasenshurkien(his most power move is any use against Susanoo.

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^Ribcage Susanoo>>>>>>Chou Odama Rasengan

Susanoo>>>>>>Rasenshurkien

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^Susanoo>Gaara's Ultimate Defence and this was only the Incomplete Susanoo.........Final Susanoo>Complete Susanoo>Incomplete Susanoo>Ribcage Susanoo

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^Gaara's Ultimate Defence>3rd Railkage Ulimate Shield

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^3rd Railkage Ulimate Shield>Rasenshurkien

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^Susanoo arrow: this technique is easily on of the fastest in NV that a fast Ninja like "Kakashi" needed to use "Kamui" to save himself so unless you're saying SM Naruto is as fast as Kamui then you shouldn't even start debating.

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^Now this attack doesn't just have an amount of speed that's nearly hard to Dodge, but also a force that can easily go throw Mokuton.

When did SM Naruto dodged react Juubi beam or are making **** up like always to save yourself or maybe, are talking about BM? because if you are then this thread is about SM Naruto not BM Naruto.

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^Now the Railkage(who's the next to Naruto and Minato being the 3rd fastest Ninja in the world)need to go on his V2 just to counter the Amaterasu

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^CO even said "He's going to counter it with his "Shunshin no Jutsu" and this when he at his full speed.

Sasuk also has Hawk summoning.....he can easily fly and shot down Amaterasu fireballs and destroy Naruto's Clones and the Toads and Naruto no way to reach Sasuke.

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^Hawk Summoning

Last, but not least



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^Naruto himself admitted that his SM is Beneath Sasuke's MS......look how that turn out to be:rolleyes:

Now, it's your turn to tell me how SM Naruot beats MS Sasuke....take your time.​

You are correct. People should understand EMS sauke>KCM naruto>>SM naruto. As for BM Naruto>> EMS Sasuke.
 

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You are correct. People should understand EMS sauke>KCM naruto>>SM naruto. As for BM Naruto>> EMS Sasuke.

True...anyone who isn't blind can see that BM Naruto is far superior to current Sasuke(it's obvious that Sasuke needs some haxxxed abilities to rival BM Naruto at his current stage).​
 

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Question: Have you seen Sasuke physically exert his himself once since entering the battlefield?
All the techniques that Sasuke is currently pulling out are feats he could have accomplished in MS with about a week of training.
We have seen Naruto go all out already so if Sasuke is holding back of course Naruto would appear stronger

Ur usng this BS bcoz u have no proof's .......

How exactly can u say that he is holdng back especially while fightng against the most poweful Shinobi...?

Sasuke isn't an Idiot,he knw that he should kill him by any means ...If he really had Such a thing he should have already used it...!

If u want to continue ur Imaginations then plz dnt give me Reply .....
 

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True...anyone who isn't blind can see that BM Naruto is far superior to current Sasuke(it's obvious that Sasuke needs some haxxxed abilities to rival BM Naruto at his current stage).​

I completly agree with this...........
 

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Ur usng this BS bcoz u have no proof's .......

How exactly can u say that he is holdng back especially while fightng against the most poweful Shinobi...?

Sasuke isn't an Idiot,he knw that he should kill him by any means ...If he really had Such a thing he should have already used it...!

If u want to continue ur Imaginations then plz dnt give me Reply .....

If Sasuke isn't holding back why hasn't he used Complete Susanoo in battle yet?
 

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Ems sasuke is slightly stronger Than km but inferior to Bm Naruto
 

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In recent chapters, it's been shown that EMS Sasuke is capable of keeping up with KCM Naruto.
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Does this prove that EMS Sasuke is at least equal to KCM Naruto?

Considering Naruto has been fighting for 2+ days, no. Sasuke cannot keep up with a Fresh KCM Naruto.
 

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Okay, then...just open the spoiler​

Yes, the Genjutsu becomes more powerful, but does Naruto have Genjutsu usage? no

The 3 Toads can be easily turn into ash with Amaterasu or Blaze Release.



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^Here is the Toads having so much trouble with Pain dogs forget about Beaked Bird summoning.



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^While Amaterasu easily destroyed Pain dogs and Beaked Bird summoning and Sasuke Amaterasu is superior to Itachi's in every way.

Power: yes, Naruto does have a lot of power in Sage Mode, but so does Susanoo.



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^Susanoo has proven that it has a dangerous power that can easily destroy the ground and this only Incomplete.



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^Again, yet another example of Susanoo power.

Sage Mode Clones or Clones doesn't matter in Sasuke's way.

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^Sasuke new Susanoo showed that it can easily damage multiple enemies at the same time and good use against a Clone user.

Sensor Ability: yes, Naruto is by far the best sensor in NV, but that Sensor Ability doesn't matter if your body can't move at the same speed.....it's like a Sharingan user.

Ninjutsu: Naruto has a good Ninjutsu usage, but none i mean none of his Rasengans or Rasenshurkien(his most power move is any use against Susanoo.

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^Ribcage Susanoo>>>>>>Chou Odama Rasengan

Susanoo>>>>>>Rasenshurkien

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^Susanoo>Gaara's Ultimate Defence and this was only the Incomplete Susanoo.........Final Susanoo>Complete Susanoo>Incomplete Susanoo>Ribcage Susanoo

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^Gaara's Ultimate Defence>3rd Railkage Ulimate Shield

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^3rd Railkage Ulimate Shield>Rasenshurkien

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^Susanoo arrow: this technique is easily on of the fastest in NV that a fast Ninja like "Kakashi" needed to use "Kamui" to save himself so unless you're saying SM Naruto is as fast as Kamui then you shouldn't even start debating.

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^Now this attack doesn't just have an amount of speed that's nearly hard to Dodge, but also a force that can easily go throw Mokuton.

When did SM Naruto dodged react Juubi beam or are making **** up like always to save yourself or maybe, are talking about BM? because if you are then this thread is about SM Naruto not BM Naruto.

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^Now the Railkage(who's the next to Naruto and Minato being the 3rd fastest Ninja in the world)need to go on his V2 just to counter the Amaterasu

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^CO even said "He's going to counter it with his "Shunshin no Jutsu" and this when he at his full speed.

Sasuk also has Hawk summoning.....he can easily fly and shot down Amaterasu fireballs and destroy Naruto's Clones and the Toads and Naruto no way to reach Sasuke.

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^Hawk Summoning

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^Naruto himself admitted that his SM is Beneath Sasuke's MS......look how that turn out to be:rolleyes:

Now, it's your turn to tell me how SM Naruot beats MS Sasuke....take your time.​

Nice explination I really liked it & keep it up ....

Actually u mentioned some of EMS abilities of Sasuke......
I dnt use pictures simce I dnt have much time so plz understand

Now let me start

As we have already knw Naruto can enter SM with in fraction of seconds proved by 3rd Rikage vs Naruto
Which Obviously mean that he can summon Ma & Pa....
Naruto had min knwldge on MS abilities like Tsukiyomi and Amatarasu on the other hand Sasuke had no Idea about SM..
Let me remind u that MS Sasuke can only maintain Susanoo for very less amount of time due to side effects of MS
Naruto's SM time span >> Sasuke's Susanoo time span

Naruto's counters for Sasuke's MS abilities:

Taijutsu:

Naruto stomps

Genjutsu: Sasuke's is a skilled as Itachi but he is still a highly skilled Uchiha so there is a chance for Genjutsu and Ma and Pa helps Naruto

Amatarasu: as U already complemented Naruto is the best sensor and frog kumt make's him sence danger and can dodge the attack simply at point blank range: proved by Naruto's clone during the fight with 3rd Rikage

Susanoo arw: Same as Amatarasu if u want more proof abt SM speed look at Naruto's first attack on Pain ,even Half dead danzo able to dodge that attack with Min damage and Kakashi's speed is nowhere near SM Naruto.......

Kenjutsu: Look at Pain's Kunai


Sasuke wil be weaken after usng above Jutsu that I have mention and he can't use Susanoo any more .......

If there is no Susanoo ....Sasuke wil die with single punch close range combat and attacks are useless against SM.......

Last but not the least Frog song : Sasuke had no counter for Sound genjutsu ..Manga fact....

Naruto dnt need FRS or 3 big toads to beat Sasuke....in worst case Naruto wil use FRS to kill Sasuke if he really want to kill him...
 
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