EMS Sasuke can beat BM Naruto[Read exactly, can beat<>winner]

[SuperChief]

Hahahahaha, this is hilarious. Thank you OP.

For real though, KCM Naruto beats EMS Sasuke mid difficulty at the most. BM Naruto neg difference.

 

[lanakui8]

The scan i posted i don't see why Kishi would forget to draw the cloak if he drew the senjutsu around it.

It's not about kishi forgetting, it's about him simply not putting the cloak in there since the reader gets the point and it would look artistically displeasing. If Kishi doesn't put the cloak around sasuke before Juugo's curse seal covers his susanoo, why would kishi be perfectly consistent with the cloak after the cursed seal is all around susanoo?

Also, top left corner sasuke doesn't have a cloak either despite senjutsu around him:

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Also TSB doesn't destroy anything unless it's with onmyoton to cancel Ninjutsu which is yin/yang release.

....but you are saying TSB ABSORBED the cloak. Since when did TSB show the ability to ABSORB anything, let alone things that they aren't even touching?

 

[antwquan]

Hahahahaha, this is hilarious. Thank you OP.

For real though, KCM Naruto beats EMS Sasuke mid difficulty at the most. BM Naruto neg difference.

Bro just go away you're always wrong and saying BS.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Yup, he does. He's equal to BSM Naruto.

 

[Styles]

It's not about kishi forgetting, it's about him simply not putting the cloak in there since the reader gets the point and it would look artistically displeasing. If Kishi doesn't put the cloak around sasuke before Juugo's curse seal covers his susanoo, why would kishi be perfectly consistent with the cloak after the cursed seal is all around susanoo?

Also, top left corner sasuke doesn't have a cloak either despite senjutsu around him:

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....but you are saying TSB ABSORBED the cloak. Since when did TSB show the ability to ABSORB anything, let alone things that they aren't even touching?

He was consistent with Juugo's cloak when Obito grabbed him and Naruto and slammed then from high in the sky the cloak was gone.

@That was typo.

 

[lanakui8]

[/B]He was consistent with Juugo's cloak when Obito grabbed him and Naruto and slammed then from high in the sky the cloak was gone.

Yeah the cloak is gone after he slammed them since all of the cloak's chakra was used up in order to protect sasuke and juugo from that impact.....

 

[King Of Pop]

Yeah the cloak is gone after he slammed them since all of the cloak's chakra was used up in order to protect sasuke and juugo from that impact.....

how do you know he used the cloak to protect sasuke and juugo just before they were slammed? am pretty sure manga never showed anything like that.

 

[lanakui8]

how do you know he used the cloak to protect sasuke and juugo just before they were slammed? am pretty sure manga never showed anything like that.

i assert that he used the cloaks to protect sasuke and juugo just before they were slammed because it's the only plausible explanation as to why the cloaks are completely gone after they gets slammed while everyone in the alliance still have their cloaks.

It's supported by the fact that naruto protected the SA from tenpen chii without the manga showing naruto doing that on panel, and the fact that despite the cloaks taking such damage they still didn't disappear off of the SA after taking the hit which means Sasuke and Jugo's cloaks must have taken incomparably greater force.

 

[antwquan]

Yeah the cloak is gone after he slammed them since all of the cloak's chakra was used up in order to protect sasuke and juugo from that impact.....

False Naruto have to make the chakra protect him he couldn't do that when he was getting slammed too.

i assert that he used the cloaks to protect sasuke and juugo just before they were slammed because it's the only plausible explanation as to why the cloaks are completely gone after they gets slammed while everyone in the alliance still have their cloaks.

It's supported by the fact that naruto protected the SA from tenpen chii without the manga showing naruto doing that on panel, and the fact that despite the cloaks taking such damage they still didn't disappear off of the SA after taking the hit which means Sasuke and Jugo's cloaks must have taken incomparably greater force.

It did it showed Naruto control the cloak to protect them from it.

 

[lanakui8]

False Naruto have to make the chakra protect him he couldn't do that when he was getting slammed too.

why couldn't naruto do that while getting slammed? He protected the entire alliance from tenpen chii while he himself got hit by that attack.

It did it showed Naruto control the cloak to protect them from it.

show me the panel where naruto controlled the cloaks in order to protect the SA from tenpen chii.

 

[antwquan]

why couldn't naruto do that while getting slammed? He protected the entire alliance from tenpen chii while he himself got hit by that attack.


show me the panel where naruto controlled the cloaks in order to protect the SA from tenpen chii.

He wasn't even able to move when he got slammed let alone charge up chakra.

This panel controls chakra to block the attacks from Madara and Obito.

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Here he does it again from Juubi.

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[lanakui8]

He wasn't even able to move when he got slammed let alone charge up chakra.

why do you say that? He doesn't need to move in order to charge up chakra especially when he's only doing it for 2 people and he's in a much more powerful form.

This panel controls chakra to block the attacks from Madara and Obito.

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Here he does it again from Juubi.

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I know about those panels, I'm talking about TENPEN CHII, an attack where we are not shown naruto powering up the chakra cloaks yet we know he did so despite naruto taking the attack and getting damaged by it.

 

[antwquan]

why do you say that? He doesn't need to move in order to charge up chakra especially when he's only doing it for 2 people and he's in a much more powerful form.


I know about those panels, I'm talking about TENPEN CHII, an attack where we are not shown naruto powering up the chakra cloaks yet we know he did so despite naruto taking the attack and getting damaged by it.

He does need to move those to charge up chakra those scans proved it

 

[lanakui8]

He does need to move those to charge up chakra those scans proved it

those scans provided show that while in KCM, he needs to clap his hands together or wave his hands in order to manipulate the chakra cloaks of hundreds of shinobi all at the same time.

Now how does that translate to Naruto needing to do the same while in the far more powerful bijuusennin mode, and while only manipulating 2 of the cloaks?

And then explain why they lose their cloaks after the impact.

 

[Kagustuchi]

CQC: Although Naruto is a quite faster then Sasuke in foot speed, not even mentioning that BM's Naruto sunshin are high above him. EM Sasuke posses straight comma:

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. Madara commented how well Sasuke moves, and here is proof:

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. Naruto won't use TBB from close range, same with FRS. Mini FRS wouldn't be enough, well even chou odama FRS shouldn't destroy PS. BM Naruto's reaction time is far below BM Naruto's sunshin so he may have hard time to land blow on Sasuke or also to avoid EMS Sasuke's attack. Chakra arms may destroy Sussano, but PS may resist. EMS Sasuke also can use Enton blade to cut through them

Using Fuuton: Rasen-Shruiken at close range ins't a problem. [

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I'd also love to see some proof on your claim of BM Naruto's reactions being slower than his Shunshin as well. He reacted to Juubito's Bijudama, which cross countries in moments and are sub-revalistic in speed.​

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Middle/Long range: EMS Sasuke's has only to worry about BM Naruto shooting barrage of TBB from distance:

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or flash bijuudama:

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. It depends how durable Sasuke's PS is or if Enton Blade

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can pierce through them.

Sasuke's PS is completely featless nor is Sasuke strong enough for it to be scaled to Madara, which couldn't tank Flash Bijudama in the first place. It gets incinerated by Renzoku Bijudama or Flash Bijudama.
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BM Naruto's clones are Sasuke's nightmare as distraction which cause Sasuke to get opened to Bijuudama's continous assault or flash bijuudama. BM Naruto has much better stamina then Sasuke, But Naruto can tire himself too much throwing nukes around or creating too much clones, Sasuke will have to keep his guard all the time, but he has chance to win. BM Naruto's durability can be problem but Sasuke may also distract him with Enton covered arrows:

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Making Kage Bunshin is no problem for Naruto. Before even fighting the war he created 14 Kage Bunshin and continued to create more against Obito, some of which were destroyed. Naruto's first feat was creating 1000 Kage Bunshin. He won't get tired from those alone.

Flash Bijudama is game over for Sasuke, so a stamina argument for that isn't needed.​

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EMS Sasuke with PS was even shown as equal to Exhausted at low chakra BSM Naruto:

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hovewer it isn't such impressive as Yang Kurama's chakra mixed with Naruto was absorbed by God Tree not so long ago:

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Simply being coated over Naruto's avatar in no way makes it an equal. Your gonna need feats or a statement, the latter of which wouldn't be concrete evidence as it is. There are none of the former.

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BSM Naruto > BM Naruto > Late War Arc EMS Sasuke > KCM Naruto > Early War Arc Sasuke​

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[Howling Fox]

this is easy top 5 biggest shit threads ever and u are normally a good theory guy

we all have off day i guess. Bm shits on Ems low diff

 

[SuperChief]

It must take some extraordinary mental gymnastics to come to this ridiculous belief EMS Sasuke comes close to BM Naruto. EMS Sasuke would lose to KCM. Hell, current Sasuke would too.

 

[antwquan]

It must take some extraordinary mental gymnastics to come to this ridiculous belief EMS Sasuke comes close to BM Naruto. EMS Sasuke would lose to KCM. Hell, current Sasuke would too.

Take your trolling ass out of here.

 

[SuperChief]

Take your trolling ass out of here.

Appreciate the passive-aggressive neutral.

It's not trolling. Sasuke gets done in by FRS, especially when Naruto combines clones and FRS. That's an undeniable fact.

 

[Solo]

BM Naruto can only make a limited amount of BM clones. 3 at best. And his BM clones can't turn into a Tailed-Beast. Not only that he only maintain BM for a certain amount of time.