EMS Sasuke can beat BM Naruto[Read exactly, can beat<>winner]

[lanakui8]

CQC: Although Naruto is a quite faster then Sasuke in foot speed, not even mentioning that BM's Naruto sunshin are high above him. EM Sasuke posses straight comma:

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. Madara commented how well Sasuke moves, and here is proof:

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. Naruto won't use TBB from close range, same with FRS. Mini FRS wouldn't be enough, well even chou odama FRS shouldn't destroy PS. BM Naruto's reaction time is far below BM Naruto's sunshin so he may have hard time to land blow on Sasuke or also to avoid EMS Sasuke's attack. Chakra arms may destroy Sussano, but PS may resist. EMS Sasuke also can use Enton blade to cut through them

Naruto can use TBB or FRS from close range as the TBB can either

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Naruto stomps in CQC, chakra arms or tails transformed into chakra arms restrain PS's arms while naruto fires a flash bijuudama, bijuudama barrage, COFRS, or FRS barrage into its face. I doubt Sasuke is going to be cutting these chakra tails when they can block things like the juubi's laser.

Middle/Long range: EMS Sasuke's has only to worry about BM Naruto shooting barrage of TBB from distance:

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or flash bijuudama:

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. It depends how durable Sasuke's PS is or if Enton Blade

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can pierce through them.

Sasuke really doesn't have an offensive game at mid to long range. Not only that, but how would his enton blade piercing through a bijuudama mean anything? Piercing through the dama doesn't stop it from exploding, and it sure isn't stopping his super bijuudama which is as large as madara's PS.

BM Naruto's clones are Sasuke's nightmare as distraction which cause Sasuke to get opened to Bijuudama's continous assault or flash bijuudama. BM Naruto has much better stamina then Sasuke, But Naruto can tire himself too much throwing nukes around or creating too much clones, Sasuke will have to keep his guard all the time, but he has chance to win. BM Naruto's durability can be problem but Sasuke may also distract him with Enton covered arrows:

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If Sasuke fires enton arrows Naruto fires bijuudamas... Sasuke's PS gets blown to bits while Naruto simply cancels and reforms the part of his cloak that gets hit by the arrows. Plus, Sasuke's not outlasting BM NAruto when

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is despite Naruto not only powering up the entire shinobi alliance and sasuke, but also using his BM far longer than Sasuke used PS, getting his chakra absorbed by the shinjuu and not even starting at full chakra.

EMS Sasuke with PS was even shown as equal to Exhausted at low chakra BSM Naruto:

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hovewer it isn't such impressive as Yang Kurama's chakra mixed with Naruto was absorbed by God Tree not so long ago:

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Sasuke simply coating his PS around Naruto's BSM avatar does not show equality. It especially does not show equality when Naruto is simultaneously spreading his chakra around the entire shinobi alliance to power them up as well, as doing most of the work to pull the bijuus out and powering up Sasuke's PS with his bijuusennin mode. And then there's the feats.....

 

[antwquan]

We don't have proof of that. If this susanoo was his ems, then he would have soloed juubito, and left him weakened for naruto to use the bijuus chakra

He kinda implied he was gonna go full power when Naruto was in BM/BSM and told Sasuke can he keep up and no Kishi didn't do that because neither him or Naruto could solo a Juubi jin he wanted to show teamwork.

Impossible too small gap of time for either half of Kurama to recharge it's chakra to full... maybe just a bit.
Both Kurama's halves were depleted so depleted BSM Naruto = EMS Sasuke with PS(small boost from chakra cloak may help as well or may not.

It wasn't a small gap though and Sasuke with PS when he covered Kyuubi was on his own when Obito grabbed him and Naruto with TSB the cloak was either absorbed or dispersed.

If Sasuke fires enton arrows Naruto fires bijuudamas... Sasuke's PS gets blown to bits while Naruto simply cancels and reforms the part of his cloak that gets hit by the arrows. Plus, Sasuke's not outlasting BM NAruto when

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is despite Naruto not only powering up the entire shinobi alliance and sasuke, but also using his BM far longer than Sasuke used PS, getting his chakra absorbed by the shinjuu and not even starting at full chakra.

Except neither of them was tired they canceled the techniques because Obito was defeated.

 

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BM Naruto would fodderize EMS Sasuke.

 

[lanakui8]

Except neither of them was tired they canceled the techniques because Obito was defeated.

I didn't say they both were tired, I said they were equally exhausted. Naruto and Sasuke were both falling next to each other and out of breath after they cancelled their techniques, how does that not show equal exhaustion?

 

[xxSAGExx]

Hello guys, I was just a little bored so I decided to talk about EMS Sasuke. Here I go :

CQC: Although Naruto is a quite faster then Sasuke in foot speed, not even mentioning that BM's Naruto sunshin are high above him. EM Sasuke posses straight comma:

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. Madara commented how well Sasuke moves, and here is proof:

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. Naruto won't use TBB from close range, same with FRS. Mini FRS wouldn't be enough, well even chou odama FRS shouldn't destroy PS. BM Naruto's reaction time is far below BM Naruto's sunshin so he may have hard time to land blow on Sasuke or also to avoid EMS Sasuke's attack. Chakra arms may destroy Sussano, but PS may resist. EMS Sasuke also can use Enton blade to cut through them

Middle/Long range: EMS Sasuke's has only to worry about BM Naruto shooting barrage of TBB from distance:

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or flash bijuudama:

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. It depends how durable Sasuke's PS is or if Enton Blade

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can pierce through them.

BM Naruto's clones are Sasuke's nightmare as distraction which cause Sasuke to get opened to Bijuudama's continous assault or flash bijuudama. BM Naruto has much better stamina then Sasuke, But Naruto can tire himself too much throwing nukes around or creating too much clones, Sasuke will have to keep his guard all the time, but he has chance to win. BM Naruto's durability can be problem but Sasuke may also distract him with Enton covered arrows:

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KCM Naruto with clones or not may just win 1of 10 times against EMS Sasuke, while second one beats him 9 of 10 times. with BM Naruto it would be equal or Naruto's advantage.

EMS Sasuke with PS was even shown as equal to Exhausted at low chakra BSM Naruto:

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hovewer it isn't such impressive as Yang Kurama's chakra mixed with Naruto was absorbed by God Tree not so long ago:

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Of course someone may argue Naruto recieved Yin Kurama's chakra through Minato:

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. However the Same Minato was caught by God Tree as well, that when his chakra mixed with Yin Kurama's chakra was absorbed:

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EMS Sasuke = less then Full power Yang Kurama BSM Naruto.

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Nope, you're forgetting that Sasuke was given some of Naruto's chakra so he had a power boost in his Susnaoo power there and he was using Juugo senjutsus as well. The straight coma refers to the EMS since Madara said it was like his and only Madara and Sasuke have EMS. KM full speed is compared to Minato's FTG which is how he got his name the yellow flash and all anyone sees from Naruto is a yellow flash when he goes full speed. He rarely used his full speed for plot reasons, he can't speed blitz in the manga or the fight wouldn't last long. Last time he went full speed was when he saved Kakashi from Obito while his clone saved Bee from Edo Madara.

Madara said PS have power comparable to Bijuus in it's destructive capability and we see Naruto, not at full power, match the power of 5 full powered Bijuu tbb combined. Naruto's BM roar can seen 5 Bijuus back, is durable enough to take a blast from the Juubi and have durability to protect everyone in the alliance from Madara and Obito's powerful katon jutsu, Madara's Susanoo tomoe attacks/Obito's giant shurikens, and the Juubi storm-like blast.

Naruto would use tbb up close, we see Bee use tbb straight up in the Juubi mouth to hit the Juubi's tbb and cause it to explode in it's mouth, Bijuus are that durable. As for the BSM, lets look at what happened: Kurama was out or low on chakra which caused Naruto KM to end when he tried to go BM then we see Yang Kurama ask Yin Kurama from some chakra (

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) then both Naruto and Minato gave a huge amount of chakra that is comparable to Hashirama's chakra volume to everyone in the alliance including Sasuke and Juugo so Minato can FTG them out of the barrier

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At this time Sasuke gets jealous of the chakra Naruto had on him after all of that since Naruto powered up full BM mode

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then he gets even more mad when Naruto went BSM

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and that's a none full powered Naruto who has been fighting for 2-3 days with like 2x he rested where Sakura healed him but Tsunade usually have people rest days to be at full health like Kakashi and Sasuke after Tsukuyomi, Naruto after VoTE, Kakashi after overusing Kamui, Naruto after using FRS and his arm was hurt.

A fully powered Naruto wins and we see him make as much as 3 BM clones plus himself so 4 BM Naruto's. Sasuke on the other hand got power boost from Naruto and was using Juugo to fight on the with power close to a weakened BSM.

 

[antwquan]

I didn't say they both were tired, I said they were equally exhausted. Naruto and Sasuke were both falling next to each other and out of breath after they cancelled their techniques, how does that not show equal exhaustion?

They wasn't exhausted either there was no pant anywhere and after that page they was perfectly fine and Sasuke used Amaterasu on Madara summoned a hawk etc they was no where near exhausted.They canceled the technique because Obito was defeated.

 

[lanakui8]

They wasn't exhausted either there was no pant anywhere and after that page they was perfectly fine and Sasuke used Amaterasu on Madara summoned a hawk etc they was no where near exhausted.They canceled the technique because Obito was defeated.

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naruto and sasuke have the sfx 'pant pant' around them immediately after they cancel their avatars.

I didn't say they were forced to cancel their techniques due to exhaustion, I simply said they were equally exhausted at the time. Equally exhausted =/= completely exhausted or out of chakra.

 

[antwquan]

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naruto and sasuke have the sfx 'pant pant' around them immediately after they cancel their avatars.

I didn't say they were forced to cancel their techniques due to exhaustion, I simply said they were equally exhausted at the time. Equally exhausted =/= completely exhausted or out of chakra.

Because they used nearly all of their physical strength to pull the bijuu out of Jib Obito but the next page they was perfectly fine.

 

[AlphaScythian]

down playing sasuke are we?
EMS sasuke has a solid shot at BSM.
When naruto goes avatar form just use amaterasu and it will burn from inside out.

Only real trouble could be massive bsm tbb but that is long range attack.

CQC vs enton covered susanoo with enton spam and swords is death of bsm avatar.

FRSs countered by enton shots and small tbbs wont take susanoo down.

We can script many scenarios to change the winner but i find sasuke to be very comfortable vs bsm nardo

Narutos best shot is to run around for his life with bunch of clone and thats if PS slash wont wipe them out.

 

[KCMNaruto]

down playing sasuke are we?
EMS sasuke has a solid shot at BSM.
When naruto goes avatar form just use amaterasu and it will burn from inside out.

Only real trouble could be massive bsm tbb but that is long range attack.

CQC vs enton covered susanoo with enton spam and swords is death of bsm avatar.

FRSs countered by enton shots and small tbbs wont take susanoo down.

We can script many scenarios to change the winner but i find sasuke to be very comfortable vs bsm nardo

Narutos best shot is to run around for his life with bunch of clone and thats if PS slash wont wipe them out.

Yeah, I expected something like that from you.

BSM Naruto's avatar is even more durable then BM Naruto's avatar which was little destroyed by Juubi's laser.
Tailed beast roar > Amaterasu.
Only Sasuke's Enton in combination of PS has chance to damage BSM Naruto at all.
BSM Naruto's chakra arms + Frog Katas gg.

Sorry but Sasuke isn't close to BSM Naruto. Besides it was very exhausted BSM Naruto, just drained from chakra by God Tree not long time ago. Taking Yin Kurama's chakra from within Minato doesn't do shit, as Minato was also caught by God Tree.

Sasuke has shot on BM Naruto, but BSM Naruto comfortable wins.

You understimate Naruto it is clear as day.

 

[antwquan]

down playing sasuke are we?
EMS sasuke has a solid shot at BSM.
When naruto goes avatar form just use amaterasu and it will burn from inside out.

Only real trouble could be massive bsm tbb but that is long range attack.

CQC vs enton covered susanoo with enton spam and swords is death of bsm avatar.

FRSs countered by enton shots and small tbbs wont take susanoo down.

We can script many scenarios to change the winner but i find sasuke to be very comfortable vs bsm nardo

Narutos best shot is to run around for his life with bunch of clone and thats if PS slash wont wipe them out.

When is Sasuke never downplayed?

 

[lanakui8]

down playing sasuke are we?
EMS sasuke has a solid shot at BSM.
When naruto goes avatar form just use amaterasu and it will burn from inside out.

if sasuke is outside his PS and using amaterasu, he gets fodderized. Plus, even if sasuke could somehow use amaterasu while in susanoo, naruto trades a super bijuudama for that and sasuke dies.

Only real trouble could be massive bsm tbb but that is long range attack.

Why is that the only real trouble? bijuudama barrage, guided FRS.

CQC vs enton covered susanoo with enton spam and swords is death of bsm avatar.

Naruto nukes Sasuke and his PS even in CQC. Naruto grabs the arms of his PS with chakra tails and nukes him. Naruto blocks his attacks with tails and nukes him.

FRSs countered by enton shots and small tbbs wont take susanoo down.

enough small TBBs will take susanoo down, while sasuke is trying to hit the FRSs from naruto's clones with enton shots, the real Naruto nukes him

We can script many scenarios to change the winner but i find sasuke to be very comfortable vs bsm nardo

Narutos best shot is to run around for his life with bunch of clone and thats if PS slash wont wipe them out.

It seems like you are the only one scripting scenarios where Sasuke is allowed to multitask like he's never done before while Naruto stands around and does nothing. You even gave Sasuke the ability to use enton spam while using multiple PS swords despite never showing or implying the ability to use both at the same time.

Naruto doesn't even have to run, he blocks sasuke's attacks with his tails and ends Sasuke and his PS with a senpou bijuudama barrage or super bijuudama.

 

[antwquan]

Yeah, I expected something like that from you.

BSM Naruto's avatar is even more durable then BM Naruto's avatar which was little destroyed by Juubi's laser.
Tailed beast roar > Amaterasu.
Only Sasuke's Enton in combination of PS has chance to damage BSM Naruto at all.
BSM Naruto's chakra arms + Frog Katas gg.

Sorry but Sasuke isn't close to BSM Naruto. Besides it was very exhausted BSM Naruto, just drained from chakra by God Tree not long time ago. Taking Yin Kurama's chakra from within Minato doesn't do shit, as Minato was also caught by God Tree.

Sasuke has shot on BM Naruto, but BSM Naruto comfortable wins.

You understimate Naruto it is clear as day.

BSM Naruto got body slammed by jin Obito same as Sasuke's legged Susano'o and both was destroyed it's not that durable and Juubi lasers wasn't that strong it only cut tenticals something Sasuke already did to Killer Bee.

 

[sunnex]

I lol at people who think sasuke have a chance. Naruto take this any day

 

[Styles]

if sasuke is outside his PS and using amaterasu, he gets fodderized. Plus, even if sasuke could somehow use amaterasu while in susanoo, naruto trades a super bijuudama for that and sasuke dies.


Why is that the only real trouble? bijuudama barrage, guided FRS.


Naruto nukes Sasuke and his PS even in CQC. Naruto grabs the arms of his PS with chakra tails and nukes him. Naruto blocks his attacks with tails and nukes him.


enough small TBBs will take susanoo down, while sasuke is trying to hit the FRSs from naruto's clones with enton shots, the real Naruto nukes him


It seems like you are the only one scripting scenarios where Sasuke is allowed to multitask like he's never done before while Naruto stands around and does nothing. You even gave Sasuke the ability to use enton spam while using multiple PS swords despite never showing or implying the ability to use both at the same time.

Naruto doesn't even have to run, he blocks sasuke's attacks with his tails and ends Sasuke and his PS with a senpou bijuudama barrage or super bijuudama.

Actually Sasuke always multitask with enton and Susano'o a V4 is just a stabalized PS and he already used enton with that and he did it with lower forms so why can't he do it with PS?

 

[lanakui8]

Actually Sasuke always multitask with enton and Susano'o a V4 is just a stabalized PS and he already used enton with that and he did it with lower forms so why can't he do it with PS?

I don't doubt Sasuke can multitask with enton like how he did in manga canon. I do doubt that he can multitask with enton like he did in manga canon while simultaneously attacking with multiple PS swords which he has not shown the ability to do in manga canon.

BSM Naruto got body slammed by jin Obito same as Sasuke's legged Susano'o and both was destroyed it's not that durable and Juubi lasers wasn't that strong it only cut tenticals something Sasuke already did to Killer Bee.

Sasuke's susanoo was being powered up by Naruto's chakra cloak and Juugo's cursed seal. After juubito slammed it into the ground, not only did sasuke's yin+yang kyuubi + senjutsu enhanced susanoo disappear, but both his and juugo's chakra cloaks were completely destroyed as well.

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Sasuke in the same situation but without the aid of juugo and Naruto would have been turned into a red pile of ground beef.

 

[Styles]

I don't doubt Sasuke can multitask with enton like how he did in manga canon. I do doubt that he can multitask with enton like he did in manga canon while simultaneously attacking with multiple PS swords which he has not shown the ability to do in manga canon.


Sasuke's susanoo was being powered up by Naruto's chakra cloak and Juugo's cursed seal. After juubito slammed it into the ground, not only did sasuke's yin+yang kyuubi + senjutsu enhanced susanoo disappear, but both his and juugo's chakra cloaks were completely destroyed as well.

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Sasuke in the same situation but without the aid of juugo and Naruto would have been turned into a red pile of ground beef.

The manipulation of Amaterasu doesn't use much chakra at all an enton sword is like 3rd nature to him.

 

[antwquan]

Sasuke's susanoo was being powered up by Naruto's chakra cloak and Juugo's cursed seal. After juubito slammed it into the ground, not only did sasuke's yin+yang kyuubi + senjutsu enhanced susanoo disappear, but both his and juugo's chakra cloaks were completely destroyed as well.

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Sasuke in the same situation but without the aid of juugo and Naruto would have been turned into a red pile of ground beef.

Kyuubi cloak didn't give his susano'o a defense unless Naruto wanted it to when Juubi used that Naruto made the chakra protect them that Senjutsu Juugo gave the susano'o didn't increase anything it was just so he could hit Obito and be effective. Susano'o always had a high tier defense.

 

[lanakui8]

Kyuubi cloak didn't give his susano'o a defense unless Naruto wanted it to when Juubi used that Naruto made the chakra protect them that Senjutsu Juugo gave the susano'o didn't increase anything it was just so he could hit Obito and be effective. Susano'o always had a high tier defense.

Sasuke's susanoo was enhanced by the kyuubi's chakra cloak as it is a ninjutsu, and we've seen that the kyuubi chakra cloak

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Sure Susanoo always had a high tier defense, however the kyuubi chakra and the cursed seal boosted that high tier defense to an even higher tier.

The manipulation of Amaterasu doesn't use much chakra at all an enton sword is like 3rd nature to him.

it's not about chakra cost, it's about one's ability to multitask as in simultaneously do multiple things, and that's a skill requirement not chakra requirement.

 

[Styles]

Sasuke's susanoo was enhanced by the kyuubi's chakra cloak as it is a ninjutsu, and we've seen that the kyuubi chakra cloak

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Sure Susanoo always had a high tier defense, however the kyuubi chakra and the cursed seal boosted that high tier defense to an even higher tier.

Kyuubi cloak doesn't increase defense it makes the techniques more powerful it only protects the person that have it if Naruto makes it do it like when Shikamaru was about to die. The senjutsu only made him able to hit Jin Obito.