EMS > Rinnegan

[bootyhunter3000]

Ummm naruto resisted on 6 tails because its not as powerful when nagato had to use the 6 paths technique, which i thought naruto mentioned with bee fighting itachi and nagato. He couldnt resist the pull in his v1 mode. But the perf susano does beat most of what your saying

 

[ARGUS]

Ummm naruto resisted on 6 tails because its not as powerful when nagato had to use the 6 paths technique, which i thought naruto mentioned with bee fighting itachi and nagato. He couldnt resist the pull in his v1 mode. But the perf susano does beat most of what your saying

The ST that deva used on KN6 was quite weak compared to the boss sized one

 

[Aoihime]

I agree I prefer ems to rinnegan.

 

[genii96]

• PS can't resist ST unless it's anchored. Naruto had to anchor himself with his tails to resist a very small one compared to what nagato can casually through out. If PS doesn't anchor itself, it will be blown far away like the toads.
• Rinnegan can absorb PS. If a rinnegan user touches PS, it's gone. The rinnegan user isn't even getting injured, the same way nagato got hit by a V2 lariat, then used preta and didn't sustain any damage from the lariat - completely negated it. In fact, PS would power up the rinnegan user.
• Cerebrus can easily combat PS. PS on it's own can't put down cerebrus. The dog will keep splitting and it will eventually go from a 1 v PS to 10+ v PS. The PS user will get pummeled.
• Rinnegan users can easily avoid PS with the bird, so PS isn't that big a threat in the first place.
• If we factor in a top notch Rinnegan user, that user is capable of using Limbo. Limbo is a lot more powerful than ST and has even less warning. PS would be constantly bashed around by an invisible force.
• A rinnegan user is able to summon gedo masu which can contend with PS
• A rinnegan user can restrain a PS using summonings, then pull the user out of it with Banshou tenin.

Apart from PS, rinnegan shits on everything else an EMS has to offer.

pretty much this.

 

[Strict]

The Rinnegan is the strongest Doujutsu, but unfolds its true potential only when wielded by the true possessor, who awoke the Rinnegan by gaining Rikudo Sennin's Chakra after mixing Indra's with Ashura's. An EMS user would beat Nagato.

 

[maniaoqan]

Go near PS slowly walking like a lady. Than start absorb it. It cant touch you as big as it can be. Preta solos. You start with foot to absorb user forced to dispel PS than Bansho tenin his ass.

 

[genii96]

The Rinnegan is the strongest Doujutsu, but unfolds its true potential only when wielded by the true possessor, who awoke the Rinnegan by gaining Rikudo Sennin's Chakra after mixing Indra's with Ashura's. An EMS user would beat Nagato.

what?.Dont know0where you got this from.Nagato prftty much mastered the rinnegans full power. Just that he didnt know all the techs of the rinnegan. Only difeerence between him and madara is madara's superior knowledge and ability to use his ems as well. Moukton belongs to hashi,yet maddy can use it just like him. Obito has kamui,yet kakashi is of similar skill.No nagato bashes any ems user

 

[Strict]

No, you can't compare that. The Outer-Path alone was stronger when used by Obito instead of Nagato, and Madara is even stronger. He can summon meteorites, use Rimbo Hengoku and fix Sasuke in the air, with just one Rinnegan. There is no doubt that Madara's Rinnegan is much more powerful. Nagato mastered the Rinnegan to the extent he could reach. But he can't reach the level of the one with Rikudo Sennin's Chakra.

 

[AGoodBoy]

No, you can't compare that. The Outer-Path alone was stronger when used by Obito instead of Nagato, and Madara is even stronger. He can summon meteorites, use Rimbo Hengoku and fix Sasuke in the air, with just one Rinnegan. There is no doubt that Madara's Rinnegan is much more powerful. Nagato mastered the Rinnegan to the extent he could reach. But he can't reach the level of the one with Rikudo Sennin's Chakra.

uhh...? what? No it wasn't. If you mean when he controlled gedo, that's a completely different thing. Outer path abilities are life and death; rinne tensei and *that thing that sucks souls*. The only outer path tech obito has shown is rinne tensei; Canonically, it was no better than nagato's as nagato was said to have died from RT due to his remaining reserves and not due to using the tech.

 

[Strict]

The Chakra rods are also a part of the Outer-Path, and when Naruto touched them and got chained, Obito explicitly said that his Outer-Path is stronger, so there is no reason to refuse.

 

[AGoodBoy]

The Chakra rods are also a part of the Outer-Path, and when Naruto touched them and got chained, Obito explicitly said that his Outer-Path is stronger, so there is no reason to refuse.

well I don't care for obito, he's too boring imo, and I usually skim his panels as fast as possible, so can you show me where he said this?

 

[genii96]

No, you can't compare that. The Outer-Path alone was stronger when used by Obito instead of Nagato, and Madara is even stronger. He can summon meteorites, use Rinbo Hengoku and catch fix Sasuke in the air, with just one Rinnegan. There is no doubt that Madara's Rinnegan is much more powerful. Nagato mastered the Rinnegan to the extent he could reach. But he can't reach the level of the one with Rikudo Sennin's Chakra.

outer path?No it wasnt. Obito would have died ressurecting madara alone. Nagato ressurected thousands of people at once and only died due to his lnw chakra at that time. Nagato could use gedo even ar an astral projection while arp pain alone. Obito dosent compare.. Meteorite ir not a rinnegan tech alone,his susanoo was clearv using handseals when he did it,so that is just an ems and rinnegan combo for you,which bs i stated is one of the advantages wadara has over nagato.. Hengoku is a ar a result of madara's knowledgd on the rinnegan and the jutsus accociated with it.Nagato only knew what he was taught or the little he found out,madara knows much more than nagato about the rinnegan,so it is certain that he can do more jutsus than him.,if nagato knew about rinbo,his cst is at an equal or even greater level than the rinbo,and the st he used on the toads which were the same size as those bijuus that sent them flying kilometres away also compares as that was from a weakened deva path who is much weaker than nagato .He could learn it..Nagato's basho tenin also freezes the opponent too and also draws him towards nagato like how he did to sm naruto as pain alone.Most of his feats i just mentioned were from pain,not even nagato.So yea nagato isnt on a weaker scale than madara,just less knowledgeable. ..

 

[Hagoromoro]

Obviously rinnegan is more powerful than ems...it's basically depends on who is using it...a person who awaken the rinnegan from ems can easily transform into one to another thus he can access both susano and all the 7 paths...but nagato can't do it because it wasn't his eyes moreover madara has huge gallon of chakra die to his senjin mode though nagato was an uzumaki but he had not that huge amount of chakra thus naruto beats him...

 

[Strict]

@Genii, this is not due to Nagato's Rinnegan mastery but due to him being an Uzumaki with strong life force and longevity. Though you are a Nagato fan, you shouldn't debate the fact that the one who possesses Rikudo Sennin's Chakra as the reincarnation of Indra with Ashura's Chakra mixed, surpasses an Uzumaki to whom the Rinnegan was implanted.

Knowledge is not the matter, where did Madara get the knowledge when he awoke the Rinnegan at his deathbed? Where did Sasuke have the knowledge of Kagutsuchi? Or Obito of Kamui? Those who master a Doujutsu, will learn all the techniques which their potential allows.

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Madara is leagues above Nagato with the Rinnegan as he has Hogoromo's Chakra, Uzumaki are just from the Senju lineage.

 

[AGoodBoy]

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Madara is leagues above Nagato with the Rinnegan as he has Hogoromo's Chakra, Uzumaki are just from the Senju lineage.

Are you sure that's just not because it's a different type of stake? Obito's shown that one that binds, but he's also shown another standard one that's just a black rod. Isn't it just possible that's just one of the other outer path abilities madara taught him? Something nagato didn't know because he wasn't taught?

I think madara's better with the rinnegan because he's unlocked them himself, practiced with them a lot and is very versed in the uchiha history. Obito learnt what he knew from madara, doesn't mean madara taught him everything. I just think it's a matter of how much they were taught, being that madara held back some information from obito, while obito didn't show everything to nagato. but i could be wrong and it could just be all down to genes :/

 

[Haizaki]

The Rinnegan is the strongest Doujutsu, but unfolds its true potential only when wielded by the true possessor, who awoke the Rinnegan by gaining Rikudo Sennin's Chakra after mixing Indra's with Ashura's. An EMS user would beat Nagato.

Only EMS user that beats him is Madara...no one else atm

 

[genii96]

The Chakra rods are also a part of the Outer-Path, and when Naruto touched them and got chained, Obito explicitly said that his Outer-Path is stronger, so there is no reason to refuse.

the chains didnt come by themselves,obito himsele broughj them out as in the scan his hands were shown saised and a certain aura was shown around them. He said the binding power was above pain nagato. He didnt add pain there for nothing.

@Genii, this is not due to Nagato's Rinnegan mastery but due to him being an Uzumaki with strong life force and longevity. Though you are a Nagato fan, you shouldn't debate the fact that the one who possesses Rikudo Sennin's Chakra as the reincarnation of Indra with Ashura's Chakra mixed, surpasses an Uzumaki to whom the Rinnegan was implanted.

Knowledge is not the matter, where did Madara get the knowledge when he awoke the Rinnegan at his deathbed? Where did Sasuke have the knowledge of Kagutsuchi? Or Obito of Kamui? Those who master a Doujutsu, will learn all the techniques which their potential allows.

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Madara is leagues above Nagato with the Rinnegan as he has Hogoromo's Chakra, Uzumaki are just from the Senju lineage.

madara got all his knowledge uchiha tablet. Do you think he got to know all about the sage and his history from nowhere?.A sharingan and rinnegan are not the same thing.Sharingan differ in abilities with each person. All rinnegan users are offered the same thing. The power of the 6 paths,mastering all basic elements etc.Whats the difeerence between nagato and hagoromo? Both have ct,both mastered yin yang release,both have the power of the six paths,however,the scale of their techs clearly shows it. Hagoromo's scale blows nagato's out,from making moon sized ct to making his thoughts come real,and that shows he is above him.Madara's best feats with the rinnegan have been matched by nagato,until he shows a rinnegan skill that surpasses anything nagato can do,using his reincarnation is just wrong. Kakashi is not an uchiha,yet he can use his sharingan better than most and uses kamui just like obito.Madara isnt senju,yet uses moukton like hashirama. Danzo isnt uchiha yet his use of ka is perfect. Chakra type signature does not decide anything. Ems users cant do anything to nagato. Good boy cleared that up.

 

[slimreaper]

still no counter to PS shockwave? not surprising

 

[Chie]

EMS isn't necessarily better than Rinnegan and vice-versa. Both have weaknesses to the other. Rinnegan even has weaknesses to some MS techs. Rinnegan isn't the upgrade to sharingan, it is merely a mutation. U_U

 

[Haizaki]

still no counter to PS shockwave? not surprising

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