EMS is NOT borrowed power

[Sennin of Logic]

Agreed, Sasukes power is his own. What a genius.




The problem with Narutos power is that the deity who it originated from is still alive . While on the other hand Sasukes power is now his own to use without the request of anyone else.

Furthermore Naruto being Ashuras reincarnation naturally latches on to others to gain power. While Indra is a lone wolf sort of speak.

So basically you're saying that Sasuke's advantage is that he can freely be a jerk...... nice. That would totally be considered superior.

The appearance of Susanoo is no argument. The term Dōjutsu refers also to a new technique. Kishimoto himself categorized the eMS and MS in the databook together, but not independently. Different and impartial Dōjutsu have been always categorized separate.


Madara said Sasukes Mangekyo has "Chuko Tomoe", straight Tomoe. Sasuke original Mangekyo consists also of straight lines.

PS. Perfect susano is something no MS user achieved.


Also, MS did not have straight commas.

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The "straight commas" are the black things just like a normal sharingan is. In MS, there was on such things. However, with EMS, he does have straight commas.

 

[BLAZE]

Two ms are needed for ems . If sasuke only had 3tomae it wouldn't work . Ems is a combination of 2 ms

this ........
and bm and kcm r naruto's power
butthurt over two char when they both r trying same thing

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

rather a power taken by force

How is EMS taken by force exactly?Both cases involve the person's eyes being willfully given.

 

[TrollKing]

So basically you're saying that Sasuke's advantage is that he can freely be a jerk...... nice. That would totally be considered superior.




PS. Perfect susano is something no MS user achieved.


Also, MS did not have straight commas.

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The "straight commas" are the black things just like a normal sharingan is. In MS, there was on such things. However, with EMS, he does have straight commas.

Base on manga, the reason sasuke's susanoo stopped advancing was due to blindness. Ems gives eternal light(manga stated that clearly), not ps

 

[BLAZE]

rather a power taken by force

lmao
didn't itachi wanted sasuke to take his eyes after his death

 

[BenjerminGaye]

So stolen power. Cool.

 

[Behemoth55]

Two ms are needed for ems . If sasuke only had 3tomae it wouldn't work . Ems is a combination of 2 ms

I don't think the eyes itself are important in that case, but the chakra. We know that the Sharingan is a result of a special chakra which is produced inside the brain. The Mangekyō Sharingan probably too. So the eMS awake (probably) if the chakra of the former and current user are able to merge.

 

[Solo]

PS. Perfect susano is something no MS user achieved.

Indra had to be a MS user. He had no way of obtaining the EMS.

 

[Umari Senju]

It's an Uchiha clan custom, to pass eyes down. The Narutards are trying to make Sasuke and Naruto equally dependent on other peoples power but Naruto is obviously the one with all the borrowed power.

And it's an Uzumakik custom to be chosen to be the nine tailed Jin. No one other than the Uzumaki have ever been a jin to Kurama as they are the only clan with the stamina to withstand the process and the bijuu's chakra. The very seals used to seal the bijuu inside it's hosts are of Uzumaki design. Is this not the same thing? I love how those favoring the Uchiha deny this simply because Kurama is a living being. Regardless the Uzumaki and Kyuubi have a long standing process (ritual if you will) which is why only Uzumaki are ever chosen to be it's Jin.

you can't just have it your way just because you love the uchiha. the same applies to naruto regardless.

 

[BLAZE]

aren't both naruto and sasuke's case of inherited power

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Indra had to be a MS user. He had no way of obtaining the EMS.

If it were the same MS, then he should have gone blind, but Obito made it clear that Indra was on a whole other level when compared to any Uchiha.

 

[Solo]

And it's an Uzumakik custom to be chosen to be the nine tailed Jin. No one other than the Uzumaki have ever been a jin to Kurama as they are the only clan with the stamina to withstand the process and the bijuu's chakra. Is this not the same thing? I love how those favoring the Uchiha deny this simply because Kurama is a living being. Regardless the Uzumaki and Kyuubi have a long standing process (ritual if you will) which is why only Uzumaki are ever chosen to be it's Jin.

you can't just have it your way just because you love the uchiha. the same applies to naruto regardless.

So basically you're saying Kurama is a caged animal?

 

[TrollKing]

If it were the same MS, then he should have gone blind, but Obito made it clear that Indra was on a whole other level when compared to any Uchiha.

In short, ems = ms + eternal light

And that is sasuke's ms, not itachi's

 

[Sennin of Logic]

In short, ems = ms + eternal light

And that is sasuke's ms, not itachi's

What are you even talking about?

 

[TrollKing]

So basically you're saying Kurama is a caged animal?

No its been always madara's puppy, that's why he trying to get it back and put it down

 

[Mighty]

First, the EMS is a ritual within the Uchiha Clan. It may be an atrocity to some, but it is within nature of their clans to perform such an act.

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Itachi wanted Sasuke to have his eyes. If Itachi didn't want Sasuke to have the EMS, he wouldn't told him about it. Itachi didn't want Sasuke to know about the darkness in the Uchiha, so he did not tell Sasuke. Itachi knew Sasuke was going implant them. Every and anything to do with the Uchiha Clan, Sasuke has rights to.

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EMS is not borrowed power. By no means do Itachi expect his eyes back. So why we address the EMS as "borrowed" power?

This sasuke lovers are hilarious... Thanks for the good laughs.

 

[TrollKing]

What are you even talking about?

The only power of ems that ms sasuke didn't have is eternal light. And eternal light is not borrow power, its new awaken power

 

[Behemoth55]

PS. Perfect susano is something no MS user achieved.

Doesn't matter. Susanoo is still Susanoo, even with legs or stabalized Shugenja-armor. The grade of perfection is irrelevant.

The "straight commas" are the black things just like a normal sharingan is.

No, the usual Sharingan doesn't have Chuko Tomoe. Madara refers clearly to Sasukes Mangekyō. These kaleidoscope is unique of all Mangekyo Sharingan.

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It consists of straight lines~Chuko Tomoe=straight-lined Tomoe.

 

[TrollKing]

Doesn't matter. Susanoo is still Susanoo, even with legs or stabalized Shugenja-armor. The grade of perfection is irrelevant.


No, the usual Sharingan doesn't have Chuko Tomoe. Madara refers clearly to Sasukes Mangekyō. These kaleidoscope is unique of all Mangekyo Sharingan.

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It consists of straight lines~Chuko Tomoe=straight-lined Tomoe.

He expects ems sasuke woke up with ps after obito transplant itachi eyes, which didnt happen at all

 

[Stark]

And it's an Uzumakik custom to be chosen to be the nine tailed Jin. No one other than the Uzumaki have ever been a jin to Kurama as they are the only clan with the stamina to withstand the process and the bijuu's chakra. The very seals used to seal the bijuu inside it's hosts are of Uzumaki design. Is this not the same thing? I love how those favoring the Uchiha deny this simply because Kurama is a living being. Regardless the Uzumaki and Kyuubi have a long standing process (ritual if you will) which is why only Uzumaki are ever chosen to be it's Jin.



you can't just have it your way just because you love the uchiha. the same applies to naruto regardless.

So every Uzumaki clan member is made to be the 9 Tailed host? I'm sorry I believe there is only 1 Kurama, and dozens and dozens of spare eyes. What is the probability of getting eyes passed down weighed against the chance of getting the only 9 Tailed beast in existence? Stop.