edo 2nd mizukage > EMS SASUKE

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Let me explain why i think 2nd Mizukage is better than sasuke:

Sasuke is used to fighting uchiha's but not really other genjutsu users:

The 2nd mizukage's clam genjutsu is so strong not even sensors can find him. It's a really high level genjutsu even with sasuke's visual prowess I don't believe he'd find the real mizukage or the clam.

If anyone says sasuke can't be caught in genjutsu he can,because him and itachi's fight began with genjutsu and he got his brother in some genjutsu in MS for. EMS so far as we seen just increases his stamina and drains less chakra of his MS techs ie tsukiyomi and Amaterasu.

2nd Mizukages infinite explosion tech combined with his clam, in my belief would be 2 much for sasuke. The clone heats up as it moves faster, causing it to expand and explode. With a huge blast radius and hitting the oponent with a huge blast of seering hot steam. Sasuke is gonna have to stay in susano in that. Sasuke if he hits it with Amaterasu will just agitate the clones condition more since its a slow burn and he will have to deal with a clone with increasing speed coming up to him and attacking him with amaterasu. The amaterasu wouldn't destroy the clone because water comes in three forms. Ice Liquid and Gas as the amaterasu heated up the clone and it explored or vaporized the tech would let the steam vapor rise till it cooled off becoming hail and the tech would begin all over again. If he shoots it with an arrow it just pops again, and the tech starts again and he has to deal with the blistering heat. The sword of toksua is useless here, because if he pierces it the clone wont seal because itll pop making sasuke once again deal with the explosion and he'll constantly have to stay in susano while mizukage just rests letting his clone do the work, or he can use the clan genjutsu to his advantage and use his water gun style tech to accurately hit sasuke and get through his susano assuming sasuke wasn't cocky enough to only use v1 susano and be like im sasuke im the greatest ninja nooones gonna get through my susano im so strong and mizukage is like rib shot bulls eye. He has the yamata mirror he can use it to block but thats about it and he sitll has to face the explosion. His lightning techs are no use because if he uses chidori on it he'll get caught in the explosion. Karin takes alot of prep to use, and his oponent is pretty fast. Also his clam is a pretty decent tanker seeing as it needed oonoki's strongest fist technique to break it, and i dont think susano is as physically strong as that.

The 2nd mizukage probably has experience fighting uchicha's since there were more out before sasuke well lets face it alot more, so he knows about the sharingan techs and everyone has heard about madara so he knows about amaterasu and tsukyiomi, so im sure he'd avoid it. Plus he has the hydrification technique which makes him fluid to help him avoid it even more.

Sasuke cant slow his infinite explosin clone down, nor seal it. So what will he do. Sasuke doesn't know anything about the Mizukage though.

I say this battle will be a battle until sasuke's chakra runs out then a water gun tech to the head.

Mizukage little difficulty i give this too.:D

Let the discussion begin.
 

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so like...there isnt something called amateratsu? tsukiyami? remember sasuke at the last second outwitted danzo to with a technique that he never even seen before...im not a fanboy or nothing but im just saying i really dont think homie with the clam can defeat sasuke...plus he uses lighting to match up with the water techniques...plus we dont know if he has any sealing tech since we dont kno the full extent of the ems power yet
 

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so like...there isnt something called amateratsu? tsukiyami? remember sasuke at the last second outwitted danzo to with a technique that he never even seen before...im not a fanboy or nothing but im just saying i really dont think homie with the clam can defeat sasuke...plus he uses lighting to match up with the water techniques...plus we dont know if he has any sealing tech since we dont kno the full extent of the ems power yet
He has genjutsu as well, and sasuke doesn't really handle genjutsu well. His sword is the only thing that seals, and he isnt gonna pierce. SIdes sasuke lately is cocky and all susano up and most his techs are just ama and tsuki. he wont be able to sense the ninja, and if he uses lightning n his infininite explosion technique sasuke is getting hit with seering hot steam hot enough to melt gaaras sand.

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he cant beat sasuke you mad i will bet on that
Not mad, just gonna ask you to explain how sasuke can beat him. Sasuke is cocky and goes in amaterasu blazing and doesnt have a counter strategy most times.
 

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and after all we haven't seem sasuke full powers so we cant underestimate him cause who know that saskue could have summon the bird wen he was fighting donzo

the bird was pat of plot no jutsu him coming out with that. and it not being shown. ifhe does the bird with mizukage jooki boy will jut reform in the air and create an aerial explosion, or he will shooot it with his water gun tech. down goes sasuke.
 

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He has genjutsu as well, and sasuke doesn't really handle genjutsu well. His sword is the only thing that seals, and he isnt gonna pierce. SIdes sasuke lately is cocky and all susano up and most his techs are just ama and tsuki. he wont be able to sense the ninja, and if he uses lightning n his infininite explosion technique sasuke is getting hit with seering hot steam hot enough to melt gaaras sand.



Not mad, just gonna ask you to explain how sasuke can beat him. Sasuke is cocky and goes in amaterasu blazing and doesnt have a counter strategy most times.
how do you know that sasuke cant seal? did you kno that garra could seal before they showed it in the manga(dont lie) sis you know that sasuke could summon a animal before they showed it(dont lie) dont sleep on the guy if u dont kno all his powers...yes all the mizukage are powerful,most of the kage are but come on now..he took on all five kages even tho he lost,but im done tho cuz nobody knows all of sasukes full powers yet so u can say what u want
 

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But we don't know if he could break this type of great genjutsu that takes Kages+other elite ninjas and even sensors and a huge amount of ninjas in it. It seems eve unbreakable. And if he wasn't kind, maybe he could have killed everyone during this genjutsu, but in the contrary he was only there to help them to beat him, and even with help they had hard time to defeat him. So i actually see 2nd Mizukage stronger.
 

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Sasuke can't handle genjutsu well? LMAO who made this bullshit up i remember him breaking itachis tsukoyomi in there fight, is that not said to be one of the strongest genjutsus ever.
Lol you so lack common sense lol. Itachi was already dying lol and he was half blind making his genjutsu suck bad... come on bro..:flaw:
 

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Sasuke can't handle genjutsu well? LMAO who made this bullshit up i remember him breaking itachis tsukoyomi in there fight, is that not said to be one of the strongest genjutsus ever.
Yah, but he knows how the uchiha's genjutsu's work theres more than just ocular jutsu and all the jutsu hes encountred is ocular. This is battlefield wide, and he doesnt have sensing ability so he wouldnt see through this. He can be affected by genjutsu and you saw him suffer the effects of sasuke's genjutsu.
 

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how do you know that sasuke cant seal? did you kno that garra could seal before they showed it in the manga(dont lie) sis you know that sasuke could summon a animal before they showed it(dont lie) dont sleep on the guy if u dont kno all his powers...yes all the mizukage are powerful,most of the kage are but come on now..he took on all five kages even tho he lost,but im done tho cuz nobody knows all of sasukes full powers yet so u can say what u want
After tobi rescued him frrom the 5 kage summit and after danzo sasuke just slept and rested on his ass he didnt train. So yah, its not like hes been training.
 

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But we don't know if he could break this type of great genjutsu that takes Kages+other elite ninjas and even sensors and a huge amount of ninjas in it. It seems eve unbreakable. And if he wasn't kind, maybe he could have killed everyone during this genjutsu, but in the contrary he was only there to help them to beat him, and even with help they had hard time to defeat him. So i actually see 2nd Mizukage stronger.
agreed he could of released joukyi boy in the genjutsu and GAME.
 

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Lol you so lack common sense lol. Itachi was already dying lol and he was half blind making his genjutsu suck bad... come on bro..:flaw:
LOl going blind does not make you genjutsu weaker in the slightest it makes your vision worse dont play that shit...

Yah, but he knows how the uchiha's genjutsu's work theres more than just ocular jutsu and all the jutsu hes encountred is ocular. This is battlefield wide, and he doesnt have sensing ability so he wouldnt see through this. He can be affected by genjutsu and you saw him suffer the effects of sasuke's genjutsu.
And there is no prove that because the genjutsu was ocular that he knew how to handle it if anything theres proof against it. The 5 senses are how you get an oppoent into a genjutsu it doesnt control what happens in the genjutsu only one that does is the sharinghan which makes the genjustu stronger the ****...
 

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LOl going blind does not make you genjutsu weaker in the slightest it makes your vision worse dont play that shit...



And there is no prove that because the genjutsu was ocular that he knew how to handle it if anything theres proof against it. The 5 senses are how you get an oppoent into a genjutsu it doesnt control what happens in the genjutsu only one that does is the sharinghan which makes the genjustu stronger the ****...
all itachi's genjutsu are ocular tsukyomi. And hes a uchiha you dont think he was trained how to handle genjutsu or given advice by his father or brother of how the genjutsu work. When sasuke went to the uchiha hide out he found out about the MS and some more uchiha techs and how they work when he saw the nin cats. genjutsu effects 1 sense thats how genjutsu. It somehwat increases the users genjutsu affinity. If the sharingan makes ur genjutsu stronger then growing blind does make his genjutsu weaker taking what u said.
 

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LOl going blind does not make you genjutsu weaker in the slightest it makes your vision worse dont play that shit...



And there is no prove that because the genjutsu was ocular that he knew how to handle it if anything theres proof against it. The 5 senses are how you get an oppoent into a genjutsu it doesnt control what happens in the genjutsu only one that does is the sharinghan which makes the genjustu stronger the ****...
How about you take your ass and go re read the fight between Sasuke and danzo were danzo himself says that sasukes genjutsu is shit compared to itachis. Common sense lacking fan boys...just omg:flaw:
 

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@microsword

Sasuke isnt even good at deciphering genjutsu if it wasnt for karin, he would of died to danzo if he didn't recieve that intel, he couldnt even tell that danzo was using genjutsu on himself he needed karin's help to show him. And itachi's genjutsu he didnt escape truly itachi's genjutsu was affected by health, and his control of his genjutsu was compromised because of it causing sasuke to break out as you see when sasuke was in his genjutsu he panicked and went cm2 the only thing he could do and try to get his cm2 snakes to bite him. it wasnt even real.
 
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