Dumbest Argument.

[JIRAIYA perv]

what did he say(seriously he said alot lol) but regardless....i'm repeating myself again lol but I'm not saying that Hashi didn't win. I'm saying they were near the same level as each other and speculating that madara didn't have susanoo from my past points.

I've disproven the video, so all it is, is assumption from logical standpoints. But yes let's agree to disagree lol

But I honestly hate vs threads, especially ones that serve no purpose. I can understand bringing up a fight that never happened because is fanfiction. Though when someone like kinghashi brings up madara vs hashi, and says its fact that hashi was>>>>>than madara....it's fanboism. because we don't for sure and we already know that madara lost most likely. Hence there is no need to keep bringing it up.

it just grinds my gears lol

xd cool, but i can agree with you on one thing though hashi and madara were MONSTERS, and that fight was crazy (i wish i can see the full fight wease.

 

[Blaze Release]

They have fought and drew on many occasions. I see no reason why hashirama would hesitate in trying to kill the leader that rivals his clan. The only man who could stand up to him and his clan. Similar i see no reason why madara would try and hesitate to kill hashirama. HOWEVER, i believe in their previous meeting's although it mightve been 1 vs 1, im certain they were fighting amongst their members therefore they possibly couldnt go all out in fear of killing their own members so both mightve held back. At least until the valley of the end where it was truly 1 vs 1 and no one in sight for either party to hold back

 

[KingHashirama]

he made 2 threads about hashirama overpowering madara within minutes of each other.

Kishi doesn't have control of what's put into a videogame....he just writes the story for the manga. Hence why fillers exist in the anime.

Regardless, I did also say how that video was only Tobi's interpretation of what happened and not actually what really happened right? Tobi likes to lie, so lets take that into account also.

I said madara prob didn't awaken susanoo at the time considering he lived after the battle and still had time to develop it; considering that Hashirama died in a fodder war; also considering hashirama feared the power of the kyuubi enough to seal it within his own wife.

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have taken that drastic measure if the kyuubi was an easy foe on it's own. Now because of that we assume that means he had a very very hard time fighting against the kyuubi. Now....is it logical that he would have still won if the perfect susanoo was there also, since it's power rivals a bijuu.

It sliced through mountains, which mean it can easily slice through wood. 2 nuclear powered beasts against a man who died fighting in a regular war....that's contradictory

Hashirama's Death is unkown. But I doubt it is the same as Second's, it is most likely due to sickness.


Again you don't get it do you:

Madara says: Edo Madara = Hashirama

So if your saying that Madara is not far below hashirama back in the time.. then your saying Madara didn't get that much upgraded.. But yet he did.

Rinnegan and Mokuton and Edo tensei MADE madara on Hashirama's level. (According to Madara).

And the Video is canon. And Mito is the one who sealed the Kyuubi within herself. Hashirama feared Kyuubi's power?? well considering he took control of him easily I doubt it.

 

[immortal sage]

because summoning meteors doesn't factor into this equation

hashi stopped ps with mokuton and two meteors pail in comparisn to ps so hashi wood clone would be able to stop those pebbles

 

[XxSageoftheSixpathsIIXx]

HOLY CRAP! You should totally touch Hashi's weiner bro!

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TEAM RINNEGAN UCHIHA!

 

[Lightbringer]

Hashirama's Death is unkown. But I doubt it is the same as Second's, it is most likely due to sickness.


Again you don't get it do you:

Madara says: Edo Madara = Hashirama

So if your saying that Madara is not far below hashirama back in the time.. then your saying Madara didn't get that much upgraded.. But yet he did.

Rinnegan and Mokuton and Edo tensei MADE madara on Hashirama's level. (According to Madara).

And the Video is canon. And Mito is the one who sealed the Kyuubi within herself. Hashirama feared Kyuubi's power?? well considering he took control of him easily I doubt it.

The video was tobi's interpretation of the past that he was telling sasuke. He telling sasuke a sob story, including telling him that the kyuubi attack was a freak accident. I'm honestly tired of repeating myself cause i've said that about four times already.

Are you kishi? no? then you have no real proof of how much difference there were between them. You're just assuming because you like the character and trying to find the most miniscule details to back it up.

Well all the things madara said could be misinterpreted. He never actually said that he lost to hashi or admitted to losing if i'm not mistaken. He never said that hashi's power is greater than his current state, only that he had the potential to stop him. That potential could just be a seal only hashi knew to supress some of madara's power or take away the senju dna similar to what orochimaru did with kabuto.

So there is no true answer until we see it for real in the manga told by a reliable source. Again the video from generations was Tobi's story of the past. We didn't see susanoo in that video either if you really want stick with it, so it can be assumed that he didn't even awaken it due to what I said in the previous comments that you should read because it covers all the flaws of what you said.

End of the line is you made a pointless thread about a fight that we know hardly about and act like what you said is the truth because you love Hashi and in process bash Madara's power. Is there a reason for the thread other than what I just said?

 

[supino]

I agree hashi was stronger. But the only reason current madara can win is because of edo/and he stole hashis cells.

and rinnegan